[D] Pro Scene Evolution - Page 235

On October 12 2014 22:57 Letmelose wrote:
1) The players? Anyone with half a brain can figure out that's not the case.

On October 12 2014 22:21 krndandaman wrote:
it makes me sad that players on teams like samsung blue have less job security than fringe teams in NA LCS.

On October 12 2014 22:57 Letmelose wrote:
By the way, all this talk of Winter OGN being cancelled and OGN teams not being abled to be sponsored by the same team is all Riot's idea, the geniuses who has been the shining beacon of light as we have witnessed thus far.

Exactly who is this for?

1) The players? Anyone with half a brain can figure out that's not the case.
2) The poor multi-billion dollar organizations like Samsung who might struggle supporting two teams? Are you kidding me?
3) To make it easier for those once a year arm-chair fans who finds it too hard to differentiate between Samsung Galaxy Blue and Samsung Galaxy White? Who cares? They're all faceless Koreans to them anyhow.
4) To cut down on the temptations of match-fixing and collusion? Seriously? This is where you start? By limiting the participation of respected, experienced sponsorships and letting unchecked "companies" like AHQ and Monster Gaming get their dirty hands on these young kids?
5) To ensure all regions are treated equally? They're not equal to start with. China never gets their patches on time. Europe and North America have money thrown at them directly by Riot Gaming. Exactly what kind of equality is Riot Gaming looking for here?

There's a lot of things I hate about the E-sports scene in Korea, but Riot Gaming is the LAST organization that I'd want to fix the ongoing issues that exists over here. Blizzard fucked things up years before thinking they knew better when they obviously didn't, and it's just a tragedy how Riot Gaming just waltzes everywhere thinking they know everything just because their marketting of the game happened to be successful.

On October 12 2014 23:34 AlterKot wrote:

Actually...


Isn't that the big problem with LCS? That region becomes complacent, because teams are getting their salaries just by playing in LCS and not by placing high in a tournament. The famous "job security", the fact that teams don't actually need to provide results just to survive? In that sense, players do gain from LCS system. Viewers don't.

On October 13 2014 01:29 Numy wrote:
Personally don't think it has anything to do with practicing more. I think they practice too much in the first place. It's just about being smarter in how you practice and think of the game. Teams do a lot of elementary mistakes in the drafting phase that doesn't have anything to do with grinding hours and hours of practice and more to do with not thinking about the game smartly enough.

Dota does tend to be a bit more cutthroat with teams reforming after each TI so there aren't as many legacy players that have no business still being in top teams. That's the only real negative I see in the LCS for the teams but that was the case even before the LCS in LoL.

On October 13 2014 01:23 Redox wrote:

No it isnt. But people like to speculate that without having any proof.

If we compare to Dota where players have to earn their pay all the time, we dont see teams practising there more. Also I dont think we should pressure them to practise more. It is already at an unhealthy amount imo.

Apart from that a direct correlation between more player practise and more fun as a viewer is highly doubtful.

On October 13 2014 01:56 AlterKot wrote:

Speak for yourself. I enjoy CS/FG tournaments every month were players try to get the highest spot every time because their salary depends on it more than LCS were majority of the games mean very little in the grand scheme of things. And I don't care how much these teams practice, I'm saying that LCS system is actually good for players because more money less stress, but sucks for viewers such as me who prefer OGN/NLB tournament circuit system.

On October 12 2014 22:57 Letmelose wrote:
By the way, all this talk of Winter OGN being cancelled and OGN teams not being abled to be sponsored by the same team is all Riot's idea, the geniuses who has been the shining beacon of light as we have witnessed thus far.

Exactly who is this for?

1) The players? Anyone with half a brain can figure out that's not the case.
2) The poor multi-billion dollar organizations like Samsung who might struggle supporting two teams? Are you kidding me?
3) To make it easier for those once a year arm-chair fans who finds it too hard to differentiate between Samsung Galaxy Blue and Samsung Galaxy White? Who cares? They're all faceless Koreans to them anyhow.
4) To cut down on the temptations of match-fixing and collusion? Seriously? This is where you start? By limiting the participation of respected, experienced sponsorships and letting unchecked "companies" like AHQ and Monster Gaming get their dirty hands on these young kids?
5) To ensure all regions are treated equally? They're not equal to start with. China never gets their patches on time. Europe and North America have money thrown at them directly by Riot Gaming. Exactly what kind of equality is Riot Gaming looking for here?

There's a lot of things I hate about the E-sports scene in Korea, but Riot Gaming is the LAST organization that I'd want to fix the ongoing issues that exists over here. Blizzard fucked things up years before thinking they knew better when they obviously didn't, and it's just a tragedy how Riot Gaming just waltzes everywhere thinking they know everything just because their marketting of the game happened to be successful.

On October 13 2014 02:04 Redox wrote:
I just dont think it makes players try harder or that LCS leads to complacency.

On October 13 2014 02:17 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:


Considering how Bigfile just dropped their team week ago, i'm not that sure that sponsors really want it.
Yes, there are Xenics, yes, there are almost always 1-2 amateur teams, yes, there is Prime and possible CTU again, but meh.