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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people. Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned! - Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM - Comparing people to Hitler - Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum. | ||
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Pwnographics
New Zealand1097 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:49 samw wrote: What nani did was questionable but what gom have done is unnaceptable he earned that seed, why revoke it for using a cheesy strategy He wasn't suspended for the strategy but rather the disservice to the viewership. | ||
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Alva`
Brazil27 Posts
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:49 samw wrote: What nani did was questionable but what gom have done is unnaceptable he earned that seed, why revoke it for using a cheesy strategy He didn't use a cheesy strategy, he threw the game. | ||
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greatZERG
Australia755 Posts
Amazing overreaction from GomTV here | ||
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pms
Poland611 Posts
If GOMTV was meant to keep it going, then it has just failed... I think GOMTV should be much more responsible, and try to take care about all its viewers, not only its Korean-viewers. It's obvious that this decision was undertaken to comfort Korean community. There should be a warning, there should be a clear rule if this kind of 'giving up' is allowed or not, there should be no such situation where matches are without stake. But instead GOMTV has chosen the simplest, and worst option - ban Naniwa. | ||
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MasterBlasterCaster
United States568 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:47 Ysellian wrote: Was this really necessary? To talk down on a whole sport like this  Way to show your class I guess. I love soccer. I hate lip service, soccer mommy, "we all love eachother and respect eachother" BS. I don't love or respect my opponents. I want to beat them and I don't give a flying fuck how they feel about anything I do. They are nothing to me. and that goes doubly for any tournament I compete in. You are there to give me a place to compete. Beyond that? I don't give a shit. | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:46 XRaDiiX wrote: Thing is the game he was playing didn't matter if he won or lost. It was more just for entertainment maybe Naniwa didn't know there would be such a reaction for him doing that... Even if he did know there would be a huge reaction for him doing that in a game. He didn't break any rule. revealing your hand at the end of the round does not break any rules or effect the result. it's about etiquette more than the rules. | ||
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greatZERG
Australia755 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:50 Pwnographics wrote: He wasn't suspended for the strategy but rather the disservice to the viewership. They did a disservice to their viewership by forcing a meaningless match | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37096 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:49 baoluvboa wrote: Nestea was pissed off from his twitter. Does anyone have Naniwa's statements on this matter? I'm wondering how he's feeling | ||
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TheExile19
513 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:48 ptrpb wrote: What makes you so sure? What proof do you have that it 100% would not work other than "well I don't think it would work". you aren't winning any arguments by doing this, and if you walked up to a GOM official or any professional gamer they'd laugh in your face if you tried to present this reasoning to them. also, any basic statistical analysis of GOM or the korean ladder (or any ladder) would reveal the infinitesmal amount of wins that worker rushing has under its belt. just...stop. please. | ||
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:47 NEEDZMOAR wrote: It sucks that gom is basically punishing him for his personality That's not an argument. Some personalities enjoy killing people.... I also think that throwing a game away by 6 pooling if you think it has zero chance to win should be punished, but it's impossible to tell. So the difference is that 6 pool is a valid strategy and many, many games have been won with a 6 pool, whether it involves trying your hardest or not. Naniwa didn't only not try his hardest, he didn't try at all. | ||
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TFOG
United States5 Posts
Its a best of one people, as destiny put it on SotG, it might as well be a ladder match. As an example, he even said he beat Leenock on ladder, but does that mean anything? No, because its just ladder. No one is going to get up and cheer proclaiming that Nestea got his revenge and reclaimed his honor after winning ONE GAME vs Naniwa, assuming he won. Like seriously guys.. | ||
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bigjenk
United States1543 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:50 Tobberoth wrote: The only chance a probe rush has of winning is if the opponent literally does nothing. It's as much a strategy as simply typing in gg when the game starts, because your opponent MIGHT type gg and leave faster than you do. So it's a viable strategy? Maybe against idra. | ||
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A Wet Shamwow
United States1590 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:50 Pwnographics wrote: He wasn't suspended for the strategy but rather the disservice to the viewership. You know what a disservice to the viewership is? Showing a meaningless game. | ||
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Vari
United States532 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:50 Archerylady wrote: Because players aren't allowed to want money? You know, the players who could be making a lot more money in a more normal profession with their intelligence level, but instead choosing to devote years of their life to a game that pays almost nothing. Those players? Yeah fuck them for wanting some return on their thousand of hours of practice. not what I said. there's a difference between wanting to win money and only caring about money. the latter means if you can't win cash off a game you throw it away in the face of people who payed to watch you play, your fans, your team, and your opponent. but I didn't say they can't want to win money at all. they should want to win money. they should also have some self respect when it comes to games that aren't about money. | ||
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Pwnographics
New Zealand1097 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:51 greatZERG wrote: They did a disservice to their viewership by forcing a meaningless match Two wrongs don't make a right unfortunately. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Parcelleus
Australia1662 Posts
SC2 scene just became a joke. | ||
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ptrpb
Canada753 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:49 MooMooMugi wrote: Given if you're opponent is either Bronze or has no pulse, NesTea is neither Alright let's bring the BlizzCon finals into this. NesTea creates a ton of broodlords and nothing else when MVP has mass ghosts, many vikings, and marines. Zero percent chance of winning that engagement, should NesTea be reprimanded? If you argue "well it's not the GSL" then there goes the argument for "professionalizing eSports" because there will be no set standard. | ||
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TheExile19
513 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:50 Archerylady wrote: Because players aren't allowed to want money? You know, the players who could be making a lot more money in a more normal profession with their intelligence level, but instead choosing to devote years of their life to a game that pays almost nothing. Those players? Yeah fuck them for wanting some return on their thousand of hours of practice. nice straw man, yo | ||
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