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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people.
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On December 14 2011 20:46 XRaDiiX wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 20:44 Doraemon wrote:
i'm going to repost my analogy here because i think it's very relevant
how would you feel if someone comes to your poker game, starts throwing hands and revealing hands and just being disrespecful.
even though he didn't break any rules, he did not follow the etiquette of the game, would you want him back? no Thing is the game he was playing didn't matter if he won or lost. It was more just for entertainment maybe Naniwa didn't know there would be such a reaction for him doing that... Even if he did know there would be a huge reaction for him doing that in a game. He didn't break any rule.
If games aren't for money they mean nothing? I'm sorry you feel that Naniwa is so high and mighty that he can't even be bothered to play a Bo1 against one of the best players in the world with tens of thousands of viewers.
I'm sure his team and his teams sponsors think that match is worthless-- oh wait even his team's management was hyping up the match on their twitter.
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Absolutely disgusting. BM is nothing new in the GSL and it has never been dealt with like this before. I won't spend a penny on GOMtv's tournaments again, that's for sure.
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if I could afford to buy a ticket for everyone saying they won't I would.
what were you buying the ticket for that you aren't getting now?
if it was to see nani play games I can't imagine you were very happy to see him toss his last chance at winning a game in the blizzard cup.
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On December 14 2011 20:46 pookadin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 20:44 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:On December 14 2011 20:43 razz wrote:
Respect to the people who payed is essential.
Respect to your opponent is essential.
Congratulations GOM for making an unpopular decision that defends the your principles! No it isn't. Only little kids and soccer mommies think that. Your forgetting Professionals in there. They also like to uphold their principles because integrity is important in adulthood. You'll find that out when you get older.
LOL! Yeah, that's why the Colts sat every single starter for their last three games two seasons ago when they were gauranteed a playoff spot...
That's why every single QB will come out once the game is beyond winning or losing.
That's why every single coach runs BS plays until the clock runs out if they have no chance of winning.
Oh wait... you're flat out wrong. Pros play for money. Little kids who cry about not being drafted play for "love of the sport".
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On December 14 2011 20:46 grobo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 20:46 Pwnographics wrote:On December 14 2011 20:45 grobo wrote:On December 14 2011 20:43 Pwnographics wrote:On December 14 2011 20:42 grobo wrote:On December 14 2011 20:41 Demonaz wrote:On December 14 2011 20:37 Klaent wrote:
What the fuck? This is fucking retarded... If it was Nestea doing a drone rush they would NEVER banned him, and the korean wouldnt have freaked the fuck out. Let him probe rush if he wants to, whats the big fucking deal... Oh they would totally punish nestea for the same thing, if anything it would be an even worse penalty I imagine Kind of like how the Koreans got punished for throwing games at WCG, oh wait.. The koreans didn't even mention the damn thing. 100% pure bias. Because GomTV was in charge of WCG right? Different tournament holders reserve the right to punish players the way they see fit. I know that... I'm saying they should have at least mentioned it in their news, but they didn't. 'Their news'? Who's news? Don't be stupid
I'm legitimately asking.
News outlets are completely separate from GomTV, and why would GomTV go out of their way to publish news on something that was none of their business.
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On December 14 2011 20:44 LeopoldStotch wrote:
How do you micro without a keyboard smart guy? Are you implying that Naniwa thought he had a chance of winning the way he played?
yes I'm sure you're microing 7 probes with keyboard and not mouse...
Try it please, I always like those wasd moves in starcraft
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On December 14 2011 20:47 Tegin wrote:
Looks like I won't be purchasing my GSL ticket.
Looks like no customer was lost.
I find these silly I WON'T BUY A TICKET posts to be full of hot air.
Currently GomTV isn't running on those tickets, they are justifying and supporting the jobs of Artosis and Tasteless.
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i dont understand why they took is Code S spot for 2012.... he will probably not make it again to Code S in near future , so this is a very though punishment....
He had no chance of winning the GSL for now and he brought many foreign viewers , GOM was too strict this time ...
this was a very harsh decision , and the funny thing is , GOM should have meditated on this not taking a decision on the next day
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Man Naniwa must be kicking himself so hard right now =/.
I think the punishment is too harsh, but i guess Koreans have their standards.
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On December 14 2011 20:48 sprekkt wrote:
I can see how they think this is disrespectful for his opponent. However i do not think his oppentent really thought so and if you asked him in all his onesty i think he was glad the game which didnt MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE AT ALL was ended fast.
In my opinion it is way more disrespectful to make the commentators say that all the games always are the most high level they have ever seen and being so good damn good all the time. All the viewers have seen better games at some point and it takes away alot of the feeling when really cool moves are pulled off.
I am really sad for this decission from GOM and I would love to see some sort of collection of votes against it.
Nestea was pissed off from his twitter.
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This isn't right  Don't get me wrong, I love GOM to death for what they do for the Starcraft community, but they sure as shit won't be getting my money any time soon.
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What nani did was questionable but what gom have done is unnaceptable he earned that seed, why revoke it for using a cheesy strategy
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On December 14 2011 20:44 ptrpb wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 20:43 Vari wrote:On December 14 2011 20:43 Shortynut wrote:On December 14 2011 20:30 MooMooMugi wrote:
I think you are confusing a probe rush with a 6 pool. A 6 pool is a strategy that actually has a chance of winning no matter how small it is. Not to mention 6-pool is actually a good strategy on Tal'Darim Alter lol.. a probe rush actually has a chance of winning too, it's much much smaller but it IS a strategy, the problem people are having is that he did it under the circumstances of the competition (down 0-3 playing to stay out of last place in the group), that and he decided not to give viewers what they actually wanted, which was a rematch to settle the heat. it's that he said he did it to throw the game. Yes but MooMoo is saying that worker rush has a zero percent chance of winning a game, which is wrong.
The only chance a probe rush has of winning is if the opponent literally does nothing. It's as much a strategy as simply typing in gg when the game starts, because your opponent MIGHT type gg and leave faster than you do. So it's a viable strategy?
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On December 14 2011 20:49 Daudr wrote:
Absolutely disgusting. BM is nothing new in the GSL and it has never been dealt with like this before. I won't spend a penny on GOMtv's tournaments again, that's for sure.
He didn't BM, he refused to show the audience a show that they had anticipated even paid for.
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On December 14 2011 20:44 Doraemon wrote:
i'm going to repost my analogy here because i think it's very relevant
how would you feel if someone comes to your poker game, starts throwing hands and revealing hands and just being disrespecful.
even though he didn't break any rules, he did not follow the etiquette of the game, would you want him back? no
How about you're at a poker game and some one tells you to give up and throw down your hand because you can't possibly win and then gives you the thumbs down after you fold. (The equivalent of some BM winning ceremonies we've seen in the GSL).
Even though he didn't break any rules, he did not follow the etiquette of the game, would you want him back?
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On December 14 2011 20:47 LeopoldStotch wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 20:44 XRaDiiX wrote:On December 14 2011 20:42 Zzoram wrote:
The game was not meaningless. Tons of people wanted to see him beat Nestea again, and Nestea wanted a chance at revenge. Naniwa maybe fell under pressure from stress he did play 3 very close games that he almost won after all. Imagine how Naniwa feels after he did nothing wrong getting revoked his Code S Spot after his hard work.... He may feel he did nothing wrong, but a ton of fans and GomTV felt otherwise.
TL voted it the best game of the night I think. Or one of the best.
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On December 14 2011 20:46 Vari wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 20:45 Archerylady wrote:
GOM is fucking pathetic. Funny that they say Naniwa is only in it for the money (not true at all), and then instantly invite Idra and Sen. Two players who are completely undeserving of Code S. Why? To keep foreigner viewership up. Because they don't care one bit about the competitors struggling in Code A, they care about money. Fucking hypocrites. they aren't players and while idra brings money it also brings what fans want to see so you're sort of trapping them. anything they do for the fans is also for the money...
Because players aren't allowed to want money? You know, the players who could be making a lot more money in a more normal profession with their intelligence level, but instead choosing to devote years of their life to a game that pays almost nothing. Those players? Yeah fuck them for wanting some return on their thousand of hours of practice.
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On December 14 2011 20:49 baoluvboa wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 20:48 sprekkt wrote:
I can see how they think this is disrespectful for his opponent. However i do not think his oppentent really thought so and if you asked him in all his onesty i think he was glad the game which didnt MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE AT ALL was ended fast.
In my opinion it is way more disrespectful to make the commentators say that all the games always are the most high level they have ever seen and being so good damn good all the time. All the viewers have seen better games at some point and it takes away alot of the feeling when really cool moves are pulled off.
I am really sad for this decission from GOM and I would love to see some sort of collection of votes against it. Nestea was pissed off from his twitter.
What did he say? Its all in Korean.
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Dissappointed by Gom. Sure what Naniwa did was bad, but this punishment is way too harsh.
They also should work on their vague rulebook.
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On December 14 2011 20:48 CharlieBrownsc wrote:
I don't understand how this is any different from his just doing a shitty 4gate and not trying. It's hard to draw the line of "throwing the game." If nani did quad-proxy gates in an easily scoutable place would they kick him out?
part would be saying you threw the game
possibility of victory matters as well
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