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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people.
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On December 14 2011 21:06 BigKahunaBurger wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 21:04 Vardant wrote:On December 14 2011 21:03 Adamcakez wrote: Good make an example of him. It was a disgrace what he did. Many top players couldve had that spot. IdrA's backkkk <3 Then they should have won a tournament, that guaranteed them a spot. Or you know, come second from an EXTREMELY advantageous seeded position... That he had to work for only a whole year. So easy. And he was obviously the only one allowed to do that. Otherwise, it might make things fair.
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Disappointing.
Well, I guess I won't be paying for a Premium ticket next year.
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why are people coming up with assumptions?
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i honestly dont know why so many people are trying to defend naniwa.
GSL is a business, naniwa is paid to play the tournament and is expected to act like a professional sportsman, especially important if he is to be playing professionally in korea.
People pay to watch GSL, the maps and games were determined beforehand. Even if the game was pointless, so many people wanted to see Naniwa vs Nestea as its just a great matchup, especially with the rivalry. Then naniwa throws it and disappoints everyone who paid for the season pass, despite nani getting guaranteed prize money from the tourney.
At the very least you owe it to your fans to play the game, even if you have no motivation for doing so. Everyone arguing otherwise needs to shove away their internet pitchforks and think about it from GSL's point of view.
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Wow this just seems excessive :O He really deserved that code S spot after his mlg run
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We will see Naniwa back in GSL for Season 2 of 2012.
I'm sure he'll qualify his way back into it given how well he's been playing lately.
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On December 14 2011 21:07 Chickenlegs wrote: The amount of swedes defending Naniwa is insane, He got what he deserved, I bet if it was a korean who did the same thing he would get fuuucked up, so be happy GOM went easy, he's banned for 1 season nothing more.
Most people aren't really defending nani but are disgusted by goms actions. Use subject x in place of his name and I would still be upset.
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Wouldn't it have been a better solution to keep his prizemoney (from the Blizzard Cup, 840$ for 7th - 10th) and just let him play his Code S seed? This will surely dampen his competitive spirit.
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On December 14 2011 21:07 Vardant wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 21:04 Vandalman wrote:On December 14 2011 21:00 Vardant wrote:On December 14 2011 20:58 KaiJa wrote: For someone that actually PAYS for my SC2 content I'm glad they revoked his spot. Why on earth would I PAY to see a probe rush? Are some of the people in this thread really that daft. You're a Naniwa or Nestea sponsor? Otherwise, you're not paying them to do anything. They're not your puppets. You think Nani would be getting paid if no one watched e-sports?? What are you talking about? The only reason there are sponsors is because people watch.....Please tell me you just mistyped something. He plays to get payed, you don't pay him to play, there is a clear difference. If the pro's in "e-sports" were actual pro's, they would be getting paid for every match and they would have a signed contract, that would state, they have to play. That's not the case.
So you think that he would still get "paid the play" if no one watched e-sports?
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On December 14 2011 21:07 -vVvTitan- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 18:39 MasterBlasterCaster wrote: Yeah it's pretty disgusting...
But the people who are glad that it happened are just plain pathetic. I hope you get warned for your ignorance. Naniwa brought shame on the foreign scene as a whole with his decision. Am I alone in feeling embarrassed as a foreigner? You know that that is complete BS. I don't believe that you don't know that is BS.
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I wish Naniwa would have played that game, for the sake of his image. I can not understand this decision by GOM though. The rule they stated feels to fit very vaguely to the event in question. Even if his actions were considered "abusive", doesn't "warning or disqualification" mean in the current tournament played? It feels like GOM is punishing Naniwa for previous "offenses".
And the statement of Naniwa being an "amateur prize money hunter", feels much more abusive and very, very disrespectful.
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I don't think this sanction is too harsh though. It's their way of saying "we only want people in code S that want to always play their best games no matter what" which is fair enough and I personally agree with. I was pretty shocked when Nani a-moved his workers as I was hoping he'd beat Nestea and finish his Blizz Cup run with at least 1 win. He is good enough to beat Nestea, we all know it.
Frankly Quantic should be the ones really pissed off - if I was running a pro-gaming team and one of my players did that in a televised match I'd consider some very harsh sanctions as this is the kind of behaviour that can lose you sponsors.
I really don't understand how Nani could let his nerves get the better of him like this, if anything he should have been a lot less stressed out since nothing was at stake anymore and at least try to show an entertaining match for the fans since that was basically a showmatch at that point.
Hopefully both Nani and Gom have learnt something from this.
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On December 14 2011 21:04 trucane wrote: Oh and btw why would they invite idra when he has thrown every consolation match in MLG so far? And those have even had some money on the line compared to this game that had no money on the line at all He hasn't thrown them, he forfeit them, which is allowed.
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Oh man, I love the "something against naniwa argument". People seriously have no clue. If this was a korean they would have been banned from GSL for life and possibly from pro gaming.
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At least he was replaced by a better guy and player
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If a Korean did what Naniwa did he probably would have been perma banned from the GSL as well as kicked out of his team.
Gom's reaction can hardly be called an over reaction.
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On December 14 2011 21:07 -vVvTitan- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 18:39 MasterBlasterCaster wrote: Yeah it's pretty disgusting...
But the people who are glad that it happened are just plain pathetic. I hope you get warned for your ignorance. Naniwa brought shame on the foreign scene as a whole with his decision. Am I alone in feeling embarrassed as a foreigner?
If you sense of self worth is tied to naniwa and the gsl then yeah you might be.
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Well, IdrA got the S-spot of Naniwa, but why Sen got one ? He hasn't scored good result at MLG, right ?
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On December 14 2011 21:06 BigKahunaBurger wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 21:04 Vardant wrote:On December 14 2011 21:03 Adamcakez wrote: Good make an example of him. It was a disgrace what he did. Many top players couldve had that spot. IdrA's backkkk <3 Then they should have won a tournament, that guaranteed them a spot. Or you know, come second from an EXTREMELY advantageous seeded position... or you know, become 2nd from an extremely good seed because of an extremely good run in a former gsl where he went from open bracket to the finals without dropping any game! noone else achieved this so far.. but well, this discussion isnt about how good of a player naniwa is (i dont think he is in the top10 of the world), but this decission is just wrong! he earned his spot
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On December 14 2011 21:10 MasterBlasterCaster wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 21:07 -vVvTitan- wrote:On December 14 2011 18:39 MasterBlasterCaster wrote: Yeah it's pretty disgusting...
But the people who are glad that it happened are just plain pathetic. I hope you get warned for your ignorance. Naniwa brought shame on the foreign scene as a whole with his decision. Am I alone in feeling embarrassed as a foreigner? You know that that is complete BS. I don't believe that you don't know that is BS.
You brought shame to famiry! You not my son!
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