EPTTerrans vanishing from the ladder. - Page 70
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SolidMustard
France1515 Posts
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BeeNu
615 Posts
On December 16 2011 10:49 ig0tfish wrote: Yes, and that's why we are witnessing the disappearance of Terrans from the ladder. And good riddance I say if that is true. Quite frankly I haven't noticed any decline in my personal encounters. | ||
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awol
Australia79 Posts
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koveras
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aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
On December 16 2011 12:09 koveras wrote: This thread makes me want to switch to terran again just because it will make me feel special. Its not a big deal really, at one point people will forget how frustrating it is to play against a good terran on the ladder and their ZvT's and PvT's will begin to suck hard. At that point the "OMFG TERRAN OP" threads will pop up everywhere and we will see a rise of terran players again hoping that they can take advantage of the slightly overpowered race thats actually pretty good but unpopular due to the high APM requirements. Except this isn't a new trend. If that really is what would happen, it would have already happened. | ||
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Twistacles
Canada1327 Posts
Yes, it's hard. Just over-come your wall. Why not look at it another way? When you are finally able to micro/macro perfectly, no toss will ever be able to beat you. | ||
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Chaggi
Korea (South)1936 Posts
On December 16 2011 12:13 Twistacles wrote: Kinda makes me ashamed to be terran to have all this whining. Yes, it's hard. Just over-come your wall. Why not look at it another way? When you are finally able to micro/macro perfectly, no toss will ever be able to beat you. I don't necessarily agree but that's just my bias. However, I play terran cause I think it's extremely rewarding when you win AND play well. I mean shit like multiprong drops in like 2-3 spots along with a push in front of your opponent's base. It's a lot of fun and incredibly tense moments like that which make Terran great for me. | ||
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Trevoc
United States145 Posts
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Paragleiber
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For me Terran is definitely the easiest race in SC2 as a low level player. In SC1 it was Protoss but they got harder in SC2 because you need to use force fields now which takes a bit of micro. And with Zerg it is just very hard to know when to make which type of unit with the larva you have. It is always a bit hard to judge if your opponent in a ladder game has about the same skill level as you but I would say that I can probably beat anything that a Protoss of the same skill level can do with my Terran and a Zerg of the same skill level will only give me big trouble if he goes for masses of Zerglings and Banelings. | ||
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E.H Eager
United States227 Posts
On December 16 2011 13:00 Chaggi wrote: I don't necessarily agree but that's just my bias. However, I play terran cause I think it's extremely rewarding when you win AND play well. I mean shit like multiprong drops in like 2-3 spots along with a push in front of your opponent's base. It's a lot of fun and incredibly tense moments like that which make Terran great for me. I totally agree with you. I play terran because it's just fun, and you can basically use every unit which is pretty awesome. | ||
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Turbogangsta
Australia319 Posts
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Klyberess
Sweden345 Posts
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
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EienShinwa
United States655 Posts
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Kingqway
United States155 Posts
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Darknat
United States122 Posts
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Tingles
Australia225 Posts
On December 16 2011 14:20 Klyberess wrote: TvP is brutally unforgiving (for T). PvT is brutally unforgiving ( for P). Thanks for your assertion. I appreciate that you used facts and examples to back it up. | ||
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Chaggi
Korea (South)1936 Posts
On December 16 2011 14:06 Paragleiber wrote: Personally I don't see the situation that is described in this topic at all. I am silver league on EU and I always used to play Random but recently I switched to Terran because I wanted to focus on one race to practice for cups. Also when I play ladder I don't have the impression that I am not meeting Terran players anymore. There are actually quite a lot. For me Terran is definitely the easiest race in SC2 as a low level player. In SC1 it was Protoss but they got harder in SC2 because you need to use force fields now which takes a bit of micro. And with Zerg it is just very hard to know when to make which type of unit with the larva you have. It is always a bit hard to judge if your opponent in a ladder game has about the same skill level as you but I would say that I can probably beat anything that a Protoss of the same skill level can do with my Terran and a Zerg of the same skill level will only give me big trouble if he goes for masses of Zerglings and Banelings. well there's less terran playing based on sc2ranks, so it's not just EU silver league, or any bias. it's just how it is. and Terran is very easy at low levels to play, but it gets harder as you rank up and up. there are more things to consider and more multi-tasking to be effective. | ||
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Chaggi
Korea (South)1936 Posts
On December 16 2011 14:59 Tingles wrote: PvT is brutally unforgiving ( for P). Thanks for your assertion. I appreciate that you used facts and examples to back it up. Because engaging a Protoss army is really hard. You have two units that can outright kill a bioball if we don't have enough of the counters. Protoss has cheaper upgrades and can get them much faster than Terran. If we make one mistake in micro, we can lose a lot of our army due to splash damage. And as you get higher in leagues, Terrans need better multi-tasking, and micro to keep up with Protoss armies. | ||
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Surili
United Kingdom1141 Posts
On December 16 2011 15:07 Chaggi wrote: Because engaging a Protoss army is really hard. You have two units that can outright kill a bioball if we don't have enough of the counters. Protoss has cheaper upgrades and can get them much faster than Terran. If we make one mistake in micro, we can lose a lot of our army due to splash damage. And as you get higher in leagues, Terrans need better multi-tasking, and micro to keep up with Protoss armies. And how can that not be said to be true of marines and marauders? Stop taking specific examples and trying to apply them to whole matchups. Like Day9 was saying in his daily today, it removes from the thousands of different situations that can occur, in which some "counters" are actually we against the thing that they are meant to "counter". Just stop it. All the races have their own strengths/weaknesses. Some parts are easier/harder than others. Also, some players are more aligns with some playstyles than others, so naturally they find other things harder. Get over yourselves. Just to help, i may never experience how hard it must be for zergs to hit their injects perfectly, because the warp gate mechanic isn't as punishing, likewise, they won't understand how hard REALLY good forcefields cast rapidly in a non wasteful way can be. Because the races are different and it is good that way. Note, i left Terran out not because i believe they don't have hard things to do, but because i do not wish to fuel a fire. | ||
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