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Please keep this thread on topic. It's ok to discuss the professionalism of what happened, but don't turn this thread into personal attacks or it will be closed.
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
December 13 2011 13:22 GMT
#261
Lol did he realy do that?

As much as i like naniwa there is no excuse for this
Its bad for esports and potential sponsors
Imagine such things happening in soccer or other professional sports, it realy is not done lol
If sc want advance as esports these things should stop happening.
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
December 13 2011 13:22 GMT
#262
On December 13 2011 21:39 ggahSoO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 21:39 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Should be treated the same way as slayersCoca...


Except Coca had a game won and left in agreement with his ex-teammate/opponent. The game also was integral in deciding who moved on and got a Code A spot.

except coca would have gained NOTHING by playing the match (sound familiar) since he already was in Code S.
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
December 13 2011 13:22 GMT
#263
Wow way to make his new team look bad.
brachester
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia1786 Posts
December 13 2011 13:22 GMT
#264
On December 13 2011 22:20 zeru wrote:
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On December 13 2011 22:19 brachester wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:18 labbe wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:16 aquanda wrote:
Imagine you paid to go to an olympic soccer game. Neither team had any chance of advancing into the playoffs. They both just walked onto the field, kicked the ball into play, and walked off. Would you be pretty angry? I think so. I paid to see the Blizzard Cup, and the fact that Naniwa spat in my face because of his pride is disgusting. I always thought his attitude was pretty bad, but this brings it to another level. While before I wasn't a fan, now I am an anti-fan.

lol this happens all thie time in proffessional fotball. In matches that don't mean anything they will not use their star players. And the games are generally very lame and boring, as no one is giving it their very best.

you don't watch football, i can tell

are we talking american football or real soccer football. because in soccer it happens all the time and games will be boooooooooring.

english football, yes what did they recieve if they didn't play seriously? a massive shitstorm, and there have been cases when Arsenal didn't have any chance of winning but still kicking ass MU and Liverpool (two champions contenders)
I hate all this singing
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
December 13 2011 13:23 GMT
#265
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TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 13:23:56
December 13 2011 13:23 GMT
#266
Oh and btw for the people that compare this to real sport scenarios and how Naniwas career will be ruined by this.
Do you think Charles Barkley smiled and laughed through his career in the NBA?When he didn't like someone he punched the other guy in the fucking face,he elbowed people,trashed talked people to no end,refused to come in from the bench(was that match throwing?).He is now a award winning commentator for TNT and one of the most public persona's in the US sport media.
The way he acted through his career was his path.It's his skill as a player and personality that brought him far and he didn't give a shit about honoring sponsors or the NBA.
Cackle™
NaquadahEOD
Profile Joined November 2011
United States11 Posts
December 13 2011 13:23 GMT
#267
On December 13 2011 22:21 Sabersharp wrote:
If he done a proxy 2 gate or a cannon rush,then he would not gain so much hate.But he practically went for probe rush which basically tells he is just throwing the game away.People are paying money to watch these games you show them this type of play?What a joke even in the pre-game interview he hype up the series himself by smack talking Nestea.So not professional.

At least played it out for the viewers and everyone else.He like does not give a fuck about the game and did not even gave any respect to the other player Nestea and GomTV.


He obviously gives a fuck about the game, otherwise he wouldn't practice so much.
He didn't give a fuck about THAT game, because it didn't matter. Stop whining.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 13 2011 13:23 GMT
#268
I think the attention this is getting is almost as retarded as the shitstorm that erupted after Naniwa gave Nestea the thumbs down at MLG.

So Naniwa threw away a game that meant absolutely nothing. Would you feel better if Naniwa simply forfeited instead of even going into the match? As a viewer I'm unhappy that we were denied probably the most anticipated match of the night, but I'm not going to call for Naniwa to actually lose his code S spot as some people are saying...

Not to mention I had a good laugh, it was unexpected, and it was at least more memorable than some of the games in yesterday's group.
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SuperFanBoy
Profile Joined June 2011
New Zealand1068 Posts
December 13 2011 13:23 GMT
#269
On December 13 2011 21:58 1Eris1 wrote:
People defending naniwa, can't you understand that a lot of people were really looking forward to naniwa vs nestea and expected a good game? Hell some people might have stayed up all night just to watch this game or even only bought their ticket for this rivalry? And now they feel cheated because naniwa basically gave them a middle finger.


I was looking foward to MMA vs Naniwa and Polt vs Naniwa... I was cheated out of both those games, not by Naniwa but by his opponents doing 1 base all ins.. just like he did vs Nestea..

The only difference between them was Naniwa vs Nestea didn't matter, however against MMA and Polt it did, and they cheated us by doing gimmick 1 base all in coin flips.
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
December 13 2011 13:23 GMT
#270
I see no major difference to this and how it often is at MLG where players skip their placement matches. There's little on the line and usually nobody gives a crap. It's a bit of a crappy thing to do for the fans (he could at least made an effort to do somthing entertaining) but at the end of the day I don't really care.
SonOfMKP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States30 Posts
December 13 2011 13:23 GMT
#271
Personally I would have just cannon rushed, or 4gated but Naniwa didn't even feel compelled to put that much effort in and I'm okay with it.
brachester
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia1786 Posts
December 13 2011 13:23 GMT
#272
On December 13 2011 22:23 zeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 22:21 Keone wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:20 zeru wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:19 brachester wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:18 labbe wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:16 aquanda wrote:
Imagine you paid to go to an olympic soccer game. Neither team had any chance of advancing into the playoffs. They both just walked onto the field, kicked the ball into play, and walked off. Would you be pretty angry? I think so. I paid to see the Blizzard Cup, and the fact that Naniwa spat in my face because of his pride is disgusting. I always thought his attitude was pretty bad, but this brings it to another level. While before I wasn't a fan, now I am an anti-fan.

lol this happens all thie time in proffessional fotball. In matches that don't mean anything they will not use their star players. And the games are generally very lame and boring, as no one is giving it their very best.

you don't watch football, i can tell

are we talking american football or real soccer football. because in soccer it happens all the time and games will be boooooooooring.

But have you ever seen a soccer team not show up for a match or just walk off the pitch after the kickoff?

Because that's what happened today.

nah. just took the easiest way and didnt try. same happens in soccer in games that dont matter, pretend to play but dont really try.

not sure why im doing sport to esport comparasions because i usually think they are stupid and shouldnt ever be done. g.g

we're trying to get esport into the mainstream so it's not stupid at all
I hate all this singing
Catbus
Profile Joined June 2011
80 Posts
December 13 2011 13:23 GMT
#273
I feel so bad for him though, he was in such a lose-lose situation. I have a feeling it would have played out like this if he would have played seriously:

Win: it was only a meaningless game, nestea could have beaten him if he wanted etc.
Lose: he's such a scrub, was only a fluke that he beat him last time etc.

Nani had nothing at all to gain, no one would have been pleased with him no matter what happened.

And to people feeling cheated;

"I think they should make players play out all the games in a BoX, otherwise I am going to feel cheated of the games I missed. Especially if I paid to see them.

It is entertaining to see people that have already lost loose more, I love seeing games with unmotivated players being forced to play meaningless matches. "
johanreidel
Profile Joined December 2011
27 Posts
December 13 2011 13:24 GMT
#274
On December 13 2011 22:19 brachester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 22:18 labbe wrote:
On December 13 2011 22:16 aquanda wrote:
Imagine you paid to go to an olympic soccer game. Neither team had any chance of advancing into the playoffs. They both just walked onto the field, kicked the ball into play, and walked off. Would you be pretty angry? I think so. I paid to see the Blizzard Cup, and the fact that Naniwa spat in my face because of his pride is disgusting. I always thought his attitude was pretty bad, but this brings it to another level. While before I wasn't a fan, now I am an anti-fan.

lol this happens all thie time in proffessional fotball. In matches that don't mean anything they will not use their star players. And the games are generally very lame and boring, as no one is giving it their very best.

you don't watch football, i can tell



Obviously he dose since it's common practice for the major teams to rest there stars and let the B-teamers play in minor cups or unimportant games.
Supine
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom4 Posts
December 13 2011 13:24 GMT
#275
Okay so here it is guys. I'm not one to get easily offended or outraged about things. Nothing to date in the Starcraft scene has got me riled up, until now.

Naniwa showed an absolute lack of respect to the viewers to his opponent and to GOM TV. It was a disgrace.

I am truly disappointed in Naniwa and shop some kind of action is taken against him.
MWY
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany284 Posts
December 13 2011 13:24 GMT
#276
On December 13 2011 22:13 Logros wrote:
It's funny that Naniwa gave everything in the previous 3 games and try to make an argument that he did not entertain them.


Quoted. for. truth.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
December 13 2011 13:24 GMT
#277
I find it funny that players are apparently expected to fool the audience into thinking they care when they really do not. That's not what e-sports is about for me, I don't want to see a fake competition.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 13 2011 13:24 GMT
#278
brachester,

He plays for no one else but himself.
vasculaR
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia791 Posts
December 13 2011 13:24 GMT
#279
On December 13 2011 22:12 Reaper9 wrote:
As much as I feel for his predicament, Naniwa could have shown us that despite this crushing odds, he still can put up a fight. He hurts his image by continually doing these sorts of things. This is why I support a player such as Boxer, a person who doesn't give up, even with terrible odds, and brings joy to his fans.


and that is why boxer is the hero of starcraft and will always be liked even when he doesn't gg even though spectators know he is so far behind.

and why naniwa is ....
well jumping teams.
Song Ji Hyo hwaiting!
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
December 13 2011 13:25 GMT
#280
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