EPTNaNi vs NesTea (SPOILERS) - Page 16
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Please keep this thread on topic. It's ok to discuss the professionalism of what happened, but don't turn this thread into personal attacks or it will be closed. | ||
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aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
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xsksc
United Kingdom1044 Posts
He'd just lost 3 games, he was out of the tournament, as was Nestea. The outcome of the match had no effect on the rest of the tournament. That isn't fucking match-fixing... if he wants to probe rush, he's well within his rights. Sure it sucks for the viewers, but from his perspective, he's probably pissed off at himself after losing the other games, why should he be forced to play what is essentially just a showmatch? | ||
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Whalecore
Norway1111 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:25 anomalopidae wrote: I really don't see why you're all so upset. He played the game, he tried his best with the strategy he had in mind, sadly it didn't work. He still had manners to gg at the end. If anyone else would cheese and failed, none of you would rage at him or even post anything about it. Smells like double standards. If we exclude bronze league, I'm pretty sure no person has ever won a game by 7 probe rushing a Zerg player. | ||
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Bashnek
Australia895 Posts
He did earn his spot, he still typed "gg". People saying he's screwed every viewer over must have forgotten about the other 3 games he played. Personally, i'll remember the probe rush longer than any other game that was played tonight, it wasnt done to insult anyone, he did it to skip the formalities and finish sooner. Seriously, it might not have been the most "Honorable" thing, but i dont think its comparable to spitting in goms face or anything. Chill guys. ^_^ | ||
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Sneakyz
Sweden2361 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:27 Fubi wrote: I can list many many scenarios and situations that a 6 pool can win games even in a professional tournament setting, but I doubt you would want to read that long of a post. However, I guarantee you that you won't be able to name a single scenario that worker rushing will win a game in a legit professional tournament... Point is, 6 pool is a cheese, worker rush is intentionally throwing away your game. There is a difference. Morrow beat strelok with a worker rush!  | ||
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Presidenten
Sweden777 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:27 CF_Toss89 wrote: It's fucking GROSS how biased the sc2community is at times. At dreamhack, I made a reddit post that got flamed & downvoted to oblivion. About what? Stephano 6pooling Cloud (Terran) 2 games in a row when he was 0-3 in the group in a game that actually mattered. It made naniwa have to beat sheth to advance, which he did. Now naniwa does the same in a game that doesn't matter and people go apeshit crazy. It's so obvious you're hating on Naniwa just for the sake of being a Naniwa-hater. Was it idra doing this, you all would go "IdrA just doesn't care, he's so bad-ass!!". zzz Very appreciated input. Such a crazy amount of overreacting just because it's nani... how can anyone even think the game would have been good when it didn't matter the slightest? | ||
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zeru
8156 Posts
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SDream
Brazil896 Posts
On December 13 2011 21:42 JWD wrote: This is a fun fact; thanks for noting it. Poor Quantic. When will these "pros" learn that being a professional is more than winning (it's winning, but it's more). You know what is funny? He complained that Catz had the same treatment than him or something like that, right? It seems he really don't understand how a sport becomes a business, how is that possible to be "pros" in this game. Hope the people from Quantic do something about it, because it upsets me that people that PAYED have one less game to watch, just because he decided not to play. Edit: I don't care about the winner, but the games. If Leenock loses, I will still want to watch his games. But if he loses by 6 pooling I might reconsider if he is worth my time/money next time. Do you guys watch it just for results or because you want good games? =/ | ||
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IplayTerran
Germany42 Posts
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awu25
United States2003 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:27 CF_Toss89 wrote: It's fucking GROSS how biased the sc2community is at times. At dreamhack, I made a reddit post that got flamed & downvoted to oblivion. About what? Stephano 6pooling Cloud (Terran) 2 games in a row when he was 0-3 in the group in a game that actually mattered. It made naniwa have to beat sheth to advance, which he did. Now naniwa does the same in a game that doesn't matter and people go apeshit crazy. It's so obvious you're hating on Naniwa just for the sake of being a Naniwa-hater. Was it idra doing this, you all would go "IdrA just doesn't care, he's so bad-ass!!". zzz It sounds like you're mad you didn't get your karma. How often have you seen a probe rush work? How about a 6 pool? It's obvious that Naniwa was throwing the game whereas 6 pool is a viable strategy against greedy players | ||
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gibb
Sweden288 Posts
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
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quancer
Canada161 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:28 gibb wrote: Tournaments should not have games like those. Shame GSL. Games like that cannot be avoided with certain formats. The choices tournaments make are often give-and-take and depend upon the professionalism of players and their teams. When people like Naniwa do what they do it undermines the system of trust (sports is all about trust, and the perception that what occurs is above board) and organizers, fans, and fellow pros have every right to be upset. | ||
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Reaper9
United States1724 Posts
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brachester
Australia1786 Posts
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awu25
United States2003 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:30 IplayTerran wrote: Who cares.It was a meaningless game.So why is there this mutch drama? I don't get it at all. I don't get how "who cares" is a relevant argument at this point. There are obviously people who care | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Just like Johan. | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:30 IplayTerran wrote: Who cares.It was a meaningless game.So why is there this mutch drama? I don't get it at all. If you don't understand the lack of professionalism (especially since he JUST moved to a new team who BOUGHT his contract) then nobody will be able to explain it to you. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:31 quancer wrote: Games like that cannot be avoided with certain formats. But the formats can be avoided. | ||
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vasculaR
Malaysia791 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:27 thoradycus wrote: huh you mean MU vs arsenal? in that case, it was because MU misunderestimated, not because they had nothing much to gain from it. honestly why are people compared football with the game? point in case, in a league, so many teams are out of the running of winning the title (mathematically) midway into the season. it is not common for people in competitive sports to throw games. It happens but its not common and rightfully so, they will be criticised about it. Those teams that do not have a chance to win the title still play out their games. | ||
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