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Somaht
Germany7 Posts
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SilentchiLL
Germany1405 Posts
On December 02 2011 06:43 Somaht wrote: Waffen-SS > .. (if you also include the last century) What the fuck dude 0.o? | ||
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adun12345
United States198 Posts
On December 02 2011 06:43 Somaht wrote: British SAS/ German KSK > Russian Speznas > American Seals Waffen-SS > .. (if you also include the last century) You realize the Nazis lost the war, right? After the Battle of Kaiserine Pass in 1942 (the first battle between the US Army and the Wermacht), the US Army won literally every battle against the Nazis. SS is massively overrated. | ||
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
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SilentchiLL
Germany1405 Posts
On December 03 2011 04:31 adun12345 wrote: You realize the Nazis lost the war, right? After the Battle of Kaiserine Pass in 1942 (the first battle between the US Army and the Wermacht), the US Army won literally every battle against the Nazis. SS is massively overrated. Since the Americans joined the war pretty late, maybe you should've used another example, but this isn't the right thread for this disscussion anyway. | ||
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
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thesideshow
930 Posts
On December 03 2011 04:31 Endymion wrote: the k9 units are the most elite, because they're certainly the cutest! Also, I think that the pilots of the more advanced aircraft for the US are more elite in their recruitment (or at least comparable) to special forces, and a stealth chopper would make short work of any special forces unit that didn't know it was coming.. (if we're going to take equipment into consideration lol) Wouldn't that make all air forces > spec ops? | ||
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Hetairoi
Sweden508 Posts
On December 02 2011 06:43 Somaht wrote: British SAS/ German KSK > Russian Speznas > American Seals Waffen-SS > .. (if you also include the last century) Waffen-SS might from the beginning had been able to fit the definition of a special forces unit, it was certainly not a special forces unit during their last years. That is of course counting out LSSAH. If we are talking Germany during WWII would place me vote on Brandenburg unit. | ||
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jubil
United States2602 Posts
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thesideshow
930 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:55 jubil wrote: Just recently watched the Korean movie Silmido - if the actual training was anything like that of the movie, I'd have to say Unit 684 was pretty elite - small group, kept top secret, one single mission, brutal training that killed a number of recruits. Was the movie good? | ||
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Detwiler
United States239 Posts
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HellRoxYa
Sweden1614 Posts
On December 03 2011 04:31 Endymion wrote: the k9 units are the most elite, because they're certainly the cutest! Also, I think that the pilots of the more advanced aircraft for the US are more elite in their recruitment (or at least comparable) to special forces, and a stealth chopper would make short work of any special forces unit that didn't know it was coming.. (if we're going to take equipment into consideration lol) Special forces units have their entire intelligence agencies backing them (as do fighter pilots). I mean, the special forces unit might aswell assault the actual base of the fighter pilot and his plane, if they had that info and were at war. | ||
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asspadtycoon
United States1 Post
Regarding who's the best, again, very subjective as each specializes in different operations. The ones who get the most press aren't necessarily the best by any means, they just promote themselves the most (which goes against what Spec Ops is all about). The Special Forces Group has the most diverse training and mission than any of the other US Spec Ops guys... look at what a couple of teams of SF guys did in Afganistan way back when... they coordinated/advised the "Northern Alliance" and led them to a remarkably quick victory over the Taliban... a feat like that requires big time skills across MANY military disciplines. Delta and Devgru are hands down the best for hostage and CT missions -- DEVGRU's been getting all of the publicity, but I think the Delta boys are just better at keeping their mouths shut about what they are doing. There's no way of outsiders actually knowing who's better. Let's put it this way..if I was being held hostage by some dirtball group of radicals, I would be equally comfortable with whichever group was sent to nab my nasty ass! | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On December 03 2011 04:31 adun12345 wrote: You realize the Nazis lost the war, right? After the Battle of Kaiserine Pass in 1942 (the first battle between the US Army and the Wermacht), the US Army won literally every battle against the Nazis. SS is massively overrated. Just a little note here, as some history seems needed. The nazi paratroopers had at the time the most well trained men in the world. They used hang gliders to silently land in a French artillery base and basically shut it all down in no time. However I don't think they'd be considered anything special by todays standard. And neither would the spetznaz probably. | ||
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Phtes
United States370 Posts
I vote Spetznas | ||
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SilentchiLL
Germany1405 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:55 jubil wrote: Just recently watched the Korean movie Silmido - if the actual training was anything like that of the movie, I'd have to say Unit 684 was pretty elite - small group, kept top secret, one single mission, brutal training that killed a number of recruits. They can't be top secret if you just watched a movie about them. ^^ | ||
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Phayze
Canada2029 Posts
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envyYaegz
United States68 Posts
Similar to the term "the best criminals are the ones you've never heard of." | ||
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DarkShadowz
Sweden321 Posts
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On December 03 2011 09:37 Phtes wrote: I dunno man i just watched Weaponlogy for Spetznas and they seems pretty ridiculous, they tortured during training to test mental strength and can make a shovel look damn scary, lets not forgot part of there K47 training is to use its arm strap to secure people as human shield.. I vote Spetznas Bleh, I saw that. The human shield thing looks cool, but unless you already have the guy under control it's not going to work. Those guys are intense, not trying to doubt them at all, but I would have no fear of this particular tactic. | ||
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