What is the Most Elite Special Forces Unit? - Page 2

itsjustatank

Hong Kong9154 Posts

November 27 2011 08:52 GMT

#21

Going off known information, the United States has a transport helicopter system that can penetrate the early warning and air defense systems of a nuclear-armed sovereign country whose mortal enemy is another nuclear-armed sovereign country, both of which are on a launch-on-warning footing.

I'd say JSOC.

JiYan

United States3668 Posts

November 27 2011 08:52 GMT

#22

On November 27 2011 17:46 Killrwombat wrote:
Definitely seal team 6, CIA hit squad

said team is the team that took out osama bin laden. i dont know much about this stuff but this seems to be the elite squad at least as far as from USA goes.

DEVGRU aka SEAL Team Six

b0ngt0ss

259 Posts

November 27 2011 08:52 GMT

#23

haha, superb....that pic is so ridiculous that it has to be real.

Killrwombat

United States35 Posts

November 27 2011 08:53 GMT

#24

Seal team 6 killed Osama, deadly prototype technology (stealth chopper) nuff' said.

b0ngt0ss

259 Posts

November 27 2011 08:56 GMT

#25

i dont think seal team six is a CIA hit squad...there's no way we would know the name of it..but, they prolly recruit from that pool.

actionbastrd

Congo598 Posts

November 27 2011 08:59 GMT

#26

On November 27 2011 17:37 Diamond wrote:
I don't know who is the most badass but the Russian Spetznaz for sure have the most gangster training.

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Edit: Nevermind, guess they don't exist anymore, but those images are still awesome.

They dont? Then what are the Russian special forces now adays? For some reason i still think they exist. I watched an episode of that deadliest warrior show where they had an ex-spetznaz person on there and it showed some of the shit they got put through during training. It is intense. Those guys are insanely hardened.

Whats the source on them no longer existing O.o But for real, i would never want to go toe to toe with someone that has that training. They are trained to be immune to pain, crazy stuff.

Singapore99 Posts

November 27 2011 09:01 GMT

#27

I hear that in Singapore, people from special units do not have nametags nor know their team mates. Only a few are announced to the public while the rest are unknown to the public.
I remember reading from somewhere that they have very very good food and all they do everyday is simulation after simulation in preparation for emergencies. In addition, they leave camp only once in a blue moon as they have to be on standby all the time.

However, I would say that I strongly believe that units more elite than the Special Forces whose capabilities are not revealed to the public. It is in the best interests of a country to keep it's capabilities hidden. It might not lie in the technology that they employ, but the high physical and intellectual calibre of the soldiers who are in Special Forces.

Diamond

United States10796 Posts

November 27 2011 09:01 GMT

#28

On November 27 2011 17:59 actionbastrd wrote:
They dont? Then what are the Russian special forces now adays? For some reason i still think they exist. I watched an episode of that deadliest warrior show where they had an ex-spetznaz person on there and it showed some of the shit they got put through during training. It is intense. Those guys are insanely hardened.

Whats the source on them no longer existing O.o But for real, i would never want to go toe to toe with someone that has that training. They are trained to be immune to pain, crazy stuff.

This cracked article.

Sadly, the Spetznaz no longer exist in any form resembling the originals before the collapse of the USSR

b0ngt0ss

259 Posts

November 27 2011 09:03 GMT

#29

haha omfg, i just realized that dude is about to sledgehammer a cinder-block that is on fire on that dude's back...we may have a winner.

Toth201

Netherlands49 Posts

November 27 2011 09:06 GMT

#30

Spetznaz is actually just a blanket term for all russian special forces, so in a sense they still exist, but the spetznaz you're thinking of where the special forces of the USSR. After the USSR fell a large portion of the USSR army got disbanded including a bunch of Spetznaz units. There definatly still are spetznaz units around though AFAIK.

rhmiller907

United States118 Posts

November 27 2011 09:08 GMT

#31

Different units have different specialties so it's really hard to pick just one. Israel has some sick Special Forces, I personally know an Army Ranger, an Marine Recon Sniper and an Army special ops medic and a navy SEAL, all of them are BAMFs and tell the best stories. Being from the USA and personally knowing these people makes me bias so I'm just gonna say the Marine Recon are the most badass units that I am aware of.

usa11220

United States38 Posts

November 27 2011 09:09 GMT

#32

Gray Wolf/Cemetery Wind type sh*t

AlphaWhale

Australia328 Posts

November 27 2011 09:12 GMT

#33

The X-Men.

echO [W]

United States1495 Posts

November 27 2011 09:15 GMT

#34

I'm probably going to say Delta Force and ST6, both of them get to cherry pick from the Army and Navy (respectively)'s SF soldiers.

AsnSensation

Germany24009 Posts

November 27 2011 09:16 GMT

#35

I think SEALs, SASs, France GIGN and German GSG9 arent famous for no reason although I'd give the edge SEAL and SAS. Their russian and israelian counterparts are most likely just as badass, but I assume the western countries have their hands on newer technology etc (just purely my assumption)

but like a few I agree that there must be some blackops organization nobody ( I mean really a few know about) that has to be superbadass, most likely american based but perhaps avengers style with the best people from all countries^^

Also when Osama was killed, the SEAL equipment for 1 man was shown and that was pretty sick how his equip was worth like 150k.

VTJRaen

United Kingdom238 Posts

November 27 2011 09:18 GMT

#36

Yeah, Spetsnaz pretty much take this for their absolutely SICK training. Korean progaming houses have nothing on those guys.

Apart from that, I gotta give some love to the SAS; a friend of mine had to do a week's training with them in preparation for travelling to the Congo for a documentary and she reported that they're all absolutely insane.

Kadu

Guam1 Post

November 27 2011 09:20 GMT

#37

You'd have to be more specific in your definition of elite badass. By definition, these units are "special" and there are only so many things a person actually has time to train for. In many ways, modern times have significantly changed the way these units operate with all of the different technologies from minisubs, gps, extremely accurate air support, etc. Mission parameters have also changed where sometimes it is much better to have special forces soldiers who are good enough linguists to communicate with many different local tribes who can perhaps run 3 miles in 21 minutes with a pack opposed to one who only kinda knows the language who can do the same in 18. Each area of operation has its own set of climates, terrain, dialects, population density, and level of industrial development - all of which require their own set of equipment and skillsets which all take significant time to train for.

If you're talking purely about general balls of steel combat and urban or rugged terrain survival scenarios, then it's reasonably safe to say specific units of British SAS, Army Green Berets, Delta Force, or Seals, specifically ones from the mid 60's through early 80's. I say those date ranges because that is when some of those guys deployed to the jungles of SE asia, the deserts of the Middle East, and the arctic colds of European regions. SOME OF THE SAME F'N GUYS DOING ALL OF THOSE. This was all with very little to no technological support where one might have to helo jump into hostile territory and skyhook out(think Batman in Hong Kong) or head out of a sub's torpedo tubes in pitch black arctic water with a full pack of neutrally bouyant gear and swim a few miles to shore JUST TO BEGIN THE MISSION. I do not doubt the bravery and fortitude of today's soldiers - it's just that technology has made a lot of the f'n crazy stuff a whole lot easier(which means they'll just be asked to do more).

PrinceXizor

United States17713 Posts

November 27 2011 09:23 GMT

#38

No one mentions the israeli special forces? they are have incredible training and requirements to join.

Cel.erity

United States4890 Posts

November 27 2011 09:24 GMT

#39

The media has taught me that Israel has the most elite special forces in the world, though I can't say first hand. Guess it depends on your definition though, I don't think there is a way to prove whose country is best. I try not to mess with angry jews.

Telcontar

United Kingdom16710 Posts

November 27 2011 09:24 GMT

#40

This is pretty impossible to judge especially with a vague term like 'elite'. Units like Delta, DEVGRU (formerly seal team 6) and SAS/SBS probably has the best funding, equipment & support, but in terms of training and actual abilities of the individuals it could be even across a number of different special forces in the world. Let's not forget that a lot of these forces frequently train & drill with each other, so there won't be too big of a gap between them. I guess if you're looking at the overall capability, the unit with the best equipment, intel, and support services will be at the top. So in that light the US (maybe UK/Israeli) special forces will have an edge? It's very tough to say though and there's a lot of conjecture there.

Oh and are you including the military arms of the intelligence services? If so SAD (CIA's special activities division) or Mossad or any other well-funded agencies will probably have the most capable field operators in the world.

Oh and I should mention that different units specialise & function in different areas, so you can't really tag them all as 'special forces' and compare them directly with each other. For example SEALs would perform better than Deltas on some objectives like underwater demolition and vice versa for operations like counter terrorism or hostage rescue. I should also mention that we actually know very little about these units (especially secretive ones like DEVGRU or Delta) except speculations & stories from former members. It's very hard to gauge what they're really capable of.

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