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Since this whole topic degenerated into the usual balance flamefest where every topic ends up if unmoderated it's time for it to clean up. Locking this down for a while. Any posts made after my post [page 233] not addressing the changes in this patch directly and containting flames or general balance whine will get banned for at least a week. ~Nyovne There is way too much flaming in this thread right now. Calm down before you post! (Page 271) ~iamke55 | ||
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La1
United Kingdom659 Posts
really happy with the protoss patches (as a protoss) however i am worried that the blink research time leaves you very vunrable to any sort of timing where blink is required (muta etc) edit annoyed the infestor didnt get a bigger nurf.. or templar archives build time to be shorter.. | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
I mean even terran players should be happy to see the infestor nerf and blink research nerf. | ||
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Officedrone
Canada70 Posts
Repeated control group and selection commands will no longer count as unique actions for APM calculation purposes Obviously people at Blizz are irritated when it comes to APM spam. Wonder how many "pro" players are going to keep doing it now to "warm up their fingers" | ||
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Uncultured
United States1340 Posts
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moltenlead
Canada866 Posts
On August 25 2011 10:14 awu25 wrote: [/spoiler]Repeated control group and selection commands will no longer count as unique actions for APM calculation purposes. SCVs can no longer repair themselves while inside a Bunker or Medivac. Baneling's Attack Structure ability is now a toggle to Enable/Disable Attack Structure. The toggle will determine whether structures are valid targets for auto-attack. This change fixes an issue which caused Banelings to prioritize buildings over hostile units. Fixed an issue where Drone attacks could be more easily dodged than SCV or Probes. APM change is odd. Don't know if that was necessary or not. Guess 300 early game APM was imba. On the repair thing, does that mean that an SCV cannot repair itself or are they nerfing the TL Attack viking trick? Baneling structure option seems to be removing some micro, but I don't have that much of an opinion on it. | ||
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humbre
353 Posts
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Fubi
2228 Posts
On August 25 2011 11:08 Mylkyjo wrote: Nice changes! Especially Ultra build time and Immortal range. I hope they wait until after the GSL Aug finals to implement, though. QFT, I really hate how they always put these major patches in the middle of the biggest tourney (which Blizzard publicly supports). Just hope they don't literally make this live few days before the finals. It really sucks for the majority of the P that already got knocked out while the ones that are good (or lucky) enough to stay in now gets a huge advantage. | ||
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wklbishop
United States1286 Posts
And maybe now we'll see more mothership. haha. | ||
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Quotidian
Norway1937 Posts
On August 25 2011 11:05 zeehar wrote: team liquid, where a five second barracks time increase brings qq about proxy two gates. /facepalm seems to me that people here are confused by the +5 sec build time, not QQing | ||
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Tawren
United States38 Posts
SICKKKK maybe pvp will be less colossus and more immortal sentry stalker | ||
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ampson
United States2355 Posts
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Namu
United States826 Posts
On August 25 2011 11:13 c0ldfusion wrote: Wow, I think everyone can be reasonably happy with these changes. I mean even terran players should be happy to see the infestor nerf and blink research nerf. it's pretty obvious that overall terran's getting hit by the nerf bat harder, but I think it's warranted given the terran domination in Korea. However, not sure how things will work out for terrans outside of korea... | ||
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common_cider
342 Posts
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Penecks
United States600 Posts
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VoirDire
Sweden1923 Posts
Damage isn't rounded in starcraft. It actually does exactly 46.8 damage. EDIT: To clarify: The game stores damage/hp as floating point numbers, but it displays them as integers in-game. | ||
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No_Roo
United States905 Posts
On August 25 2011 11:10 mousepad wrote: The build time for Ultras could work somewhat. One of the problems with Ultras is that they left Zerg vulnerable for long periods and protoss could remax with collossi just as fast and terrans could get an effective amount of marauders much more quickly than Zerg could produce them. Yeah I'm glad they decreased the ultralisk build time. I am a little surprised the carrier remains at 120 seconds though tbh... I get the feeling the carrier is going to be hit with a massive renovation for HotS. | ||
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s2pid_loser
United States699 Posts
not so sure about the blue flame nerf, but everything else looks to be like very smart changes | ||
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illsick
United States1770 Posts
On August 25 2011 11:03 IPA wrote: I know it's relatively small but -- why the contaminate change? Was it being abused? Come on now... I love all the other changes, not trying to whine too much. Just wondering where Blizz got the mind to change contaminate. probably cuz overseers are cheaper, so it might be an issue later | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On August 25 2011 11:13 a176 wrote: extra 5 seconds would mean seeing many more successful 15hatch 5 seconds rarely effects the outcome of a successful 2rax Either zerg reacts properly or they do not, 5 seconds later is still not long enough to have zerglings out yet so it's trivial. | ||
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Oreo7
United States1647 Posts
EDIT: Immortal buffed, warp prism buffed, mother ship buffed in return for 30 more seconds to blink research? wow. This is so cool. Cool. Cool cool cool. I am so pumped for that mothership buff, the immortal buff will help not only pvp but pvz and pvt. The warp prism thing is so neat too. And infestors got a minor nerf? ahhahahah. Wow. So happy. | ||
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