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Since this whole topic degenerated into the usual balance flamefest where every topic ends up if unmoderated it's time for it to clean up. Locking this down for a while. Any posts made after my post [page 233] not addressing the changes in this patch directly and containting flames or general balance whine will get banned for at least a week. ~Nyovne There is way too much flaming in this thread right now. Calm down before you post! (Page 271) ~iamke55 | ||
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Deleted User 108965
1096 Posts
On August 25 2011 10:30 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote: holy fuck immortals will be pain to deal now with roaches t.t except for that i really like the patch question is 40 fungal damage vs massive more or less then before? well to be fair... they kind of are supposed to be the hard counter to roaches lol | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
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MERLIN.
Canada546 Posts
GO BLIZZARD | ||
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malaan
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DeltruS
Canada2214 Posts
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On August 25 2011 10:34 Thrill wrote: This is way overdoing it imo. It's like they're trying to please everyone. Hellion nerf is the only balance change i agree with and that's mainly 'cause the unit is stupid. Vulture requires heavy micro, hellion requires no micro (only proper movement past spine crawlers and such). Warp prism 40-100? Overkill. Warp prism will now be the new forward pylon (and also high ground vision pre-colossus). Fungal nerf is hardly a big change so won't address that. Ultra buff is.. weird. Ultras as a utility defense option? :s Don't see the point of this. Then a bunch of nerfs and buffs that all screw with established timings. Well, ok... That was the intent of the warp prism in the first place, that it would be a dropship that could be used as a forward pylon. The ultralisk change makes ultralisk switches better: if you sacrifice your whole army and do a lot of damage and then remax on ultras, your units will be ready a lot sooner so you can bum rush the enemy faster before he can recover. It's a good change I think. Also interesting: Issuing new orders to charging zealots will cause them to lose the charge buff. Fixed an issue where workers would not path around Force Field while harvesting. SCVs can no longer repair themselves while inside a Bunker or Medivac. Attack upgrades are now retained by units controlled by Neural Parasite. | ||
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SemperSC
Canada117 Posts
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magnaflow
Canada1521 Posts
On August 25 2011 10:21 chaopow wrote: No address to TvP 1/1/1 yet though. Otherwise looks like a good patch, hopefully everything goes well in PTR The 5 second delay on the rax could be just enough, 5 sec delay on rax means 5 sec delay for everything else. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On August 25 2011 10:41 laharl23 wrote: u do realize 5 seconds game time is like 2 seconds real time. you really think those 2 seconds will make 2rax out of the question? and you really think a zealot/stalker rush will beat you so much more easier? sigh some people 2rax vs Zerg and proxy 2gate vs T will be affected. Not sure how much, but it's not necessarily insignificant. EDIT: I thought putting the shuttle speed upgrade at CyC would be a better way to make it more desirable than just a shield buff. | ||
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Jumbled
1543 Posts
- Fixed an issue where Drone attacks could be more easily dodged than SCV or Probes. | ||
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
On August 25 2011 10:41 Adreme wrote: I will honestly but stunned if rax build time increase goes thru. It reminds me of there origanal 4 gate fix where they decreased zealot build time then 2 weeks later redacted that remembering why they had to increase it in the first place. This is essentially doing the zealot build time decrease so you are decreasing the time you have to prepare for it by the same amount so it will not go thru like the zealot change. Zealot build time decrease stacked for every Zealot you built. The barracks change is just a flat 5seconds | ||
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Cloudwolfe
Ireland17 Posts
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Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
On August 25 2011 10:36 Dommk wrote: How is 1range going to make Blink Stalker/Immortal unkillable? I don't get people sometimes... Immortal/stalker/templar composition will be much more potent now. Consider how much the roach range buff changed the game. Now it won't be as big, since the immortal is a more costly and advanced tech unit, but I still expect for Toss to be noticeably more effective. The fungal nerf certainly doesn't help. | ||
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Raiznhell
Canada786 Posts
The game just started to kick into intense mode with the hellion play and then immediately cut short. | ||
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lim1017
Canada1278 Posts
MAYBE twlight straight into chargelot arcon to counter immortal rushes? | ||
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MuteZephyr
Lithuania448 Posts
Blizz didn't even wait for the metagame to catch up with blue flame. QQ wins again. It showed up last MLG, and they're already nerfing it. I think this is pretty silly. | ||
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Fubi
2228 Posts
On August 25 2011 10:38 RaKooNs wrote: Barracks build time nerf is for 2 rax, obviously. I really think blizzard have hit everything spot on this time. Good job to them. It really wasn't hard to stop a 2 rax for any race tho, especially at high level. An extra 5 seconds just pretty much means it isn't even viable any more as that 5 seconds will buy so much time for zerg to get that first batch of Lings out | ||
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link0
United States1071 Posts
Rax build time change fucks with the OC timing. Now, your CC will be idle for 5 seconds before making OC, great. | ||
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laharl23
United States582 Posts
On August 25 2011 10:42 Jibba wrote: 2rax vs Zerg and proxy 2gate vs T will be affected. Not sure how much, but it's not necessarily insignificant. never said it was insignificant, but hes being a big drama queen that its going to make 2rax vs zerg impossible to do and nobody will do it anymore. | ||
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