EPTPatch 1.4 PTR Notes (updated 9/8) - Page 159
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Since this whole topic degenerated into the usual balance flamefest where every topic ends up if unmoderated it's time for it to clean up. Locking this down for a while. Any posts made after my post [page 233] not addressing the changes in this patch directly and containting flames or general balance whine will get banned for at least a week. ~Nyovne There is way too much flaming in this thread right now. Calm down before you post! (Page 271) ~iamke55 | ||
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gentile
Switzerland594 Posts
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tsuxiit
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gentile
Switzerland594 Posts
dunno about this..like immortal change, warp prism obviously needed for more interesting strategies for P..helions nerf needed too, maybe this is too much but we will see..what I do not understand is the build time of barracks, makes no sense to me, would prefer a change to marine fire rate or something instead..ultralisk change is kinda wierd too, change was needed but TO the broodlords first, then you can buff ultra buildtime really..as if Zerg needs ultras right now to win..id like to see them but as an alternative/other option then the OP broodlords. infestor change was needed too ofc..happy with that, how this will play out we will see..and what exactly gonna be in the patch goes to show aswell.. | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
EDIT: Above post... you just quoted yourself for no reason? EDIT 2: nm | ||
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Bizarro252
180 Posts
On August 25 2011 10:29 jambOng wrote: When will Blizzard make shared replays :[ This... Please?? This would be so nice for non live touneys as well as for just sharing/discussing with friends!!! I WANT THIS ADDED!  | ||
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Bamm
Sweden279 Posts
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gentile
Switzerland594 Posts
On August 26 2011 05:13 zarepath wrote: Does getting Blue Flame and the +1 attack end up equaling the original blue flame upgrade? EDIT: Above post... you just quoted yourself for no reason? EDIT 2: nm ye fucked somewhat up with editing  and yeah I think +1 would equal blue flamers..still zerg makes armor etc.. | ||
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Zanno
United States1484 Posts
On August 26 2011 05:13 zarepath wrote: Does getting Blue Flame and the +1 attack end up equaling the original blue flame upgrade? yes, but carapace (an upgrade that all zergs will eventually get) will cancel it out | ||
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Toads
Canada1795 Posts
On August 26 2011 05:15 Zanno wrote: yes, but carapace (an upgrade that all zergs will eventually get) will cancel it out We'll prob only see that with HotS not with a balance patch | ||
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s4life
Peru1519 Posts
On August 26 2011 05:09 B0nes wrote: What I'm more concerned about is the buff/fix to sentry guardian shield against splash damage and the + 1 range on immortals now! They are going to rip through a tank line like no ones business. Blizz does not want mech T v P for some reason.. | ||
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jeppie1
Netherlands20 Posts
pray to god these fixes go live before mlg (maybe they have, idk) | ||
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Kinetik_Inferno
United States1431 Posts
On August 26 2011 05:13 Bizarro252 wrote: This... Please?? This would be so nice for non live touneys as well as for just sharing/discussing with friends!!! I WANT THIS ADDED! They said it is coming Soon™. I wouldn't fuss over it. They have other things to worry about, like balance and bug fixes. It will definitely be here when HotS rolls around, they wouldn't dare release it without it. | ||
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tosslecap
United States6 Posts
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BittenByIdra
Sweden32 Posts
On August 25 2011 10:17 GhostFall wrote: wow qq wins again. Sad but true. As a former WoW-player I'm not really surprised that it carried over to SC2 tho.. | ||
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Zanno
United States1484 Posts
On August 26 2011 05:16 jeppie1 wrote: idra will be a happy camper when he sees this pray to god these fixes go live before mlg (maybe they have, idk) i doubt that will ever happen again also given the sheer scope of the changes, i imagine there will be a second revision of the ptr (anyone remember fungal missile) i think the funniest change out of all of them, is the +5 seconds to barracks timing could easily be implemented by simply making better maps | ||
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
On August 26 2011 05:16 s4life wrote: Blizz does not want mech T v P for some reason.. Why didn't any of the tip top protoss players realize before, this is obviously the reason 1/1/1 is so good! THE SENTRY GUARDIAN SHIELDS DONT WORK AGAINST SIEGE SPLASH. WTF. That's 2 damage less, siege tank damage reduced from 35 to 33. If your opponent has, like, 2 siege tanks that's a 4 damage that you just straight dodged. | ||
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B0nes
United States16 Posts
On August 26 2011 05:16 s4life wrote: Blizz does not want mech T v P for some reason.. I played mech yesterday vs a toss who went collosi and it worked well. about 4-5 tanks in the back shelling the collosi but now they will be focused down so fast. TvP is hard as it is already! Not to mention that they will tear apart mauraders. | ||
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BlackW0lf
57 Posts
Infestors needed nerf against marines, not against armored, now they put Zergs in huge underdog in ZvP when we include previous freeze time nerf. Immortals are making already f* up stalker = roach match impossible for Zergs to win. Stalkers are OP in a way against all zerg units already (excluding mass lings and hydras), which both are needed either in huge numbers or are way too slow or fragile in even match. Blink research time change doesnt change anything really. So whats left... Ultra change... Yeah 4 bases for gas and maybe you can get Ultras out... maybe. Which can provide some coverage for lings, but not usefull even with upgrade for their cost to size at screen to armor/damage ratio. Whats left? Longer barracks time... wtf. Already hard to def against 6 pool, why to make it weaker? In offence that time is pretty much useless, rather something like combat shields +5 and health -5, to compensate early 2 rax attacks or marine creating time increase. Maybe I am just stupid (yeah I am) but I really have hard times to find anything positive for current balance in this patch. Rather it seems to mess things up that players have already overcome. | ||
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niilzon
Belgium105 Posts
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
On August 26 2011 05:17 BittenByIdra wrote: Sad but true. As a former WoW-player I'm not really surprised that it carried over to SC2 tho.. The only changes I can think of that have been QQed about are infestors and hellions. And there's widespread agreement that both of those are a little strong. | ||
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