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T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
August 15 2011 12:16 GMT
#761
All toss except for winner of huk/killer group are gonna go down to code A. Terrans will be 3/4 of code S by next season!

Still too early to be calling imba or begging for nerfs though. Its only been a short period of dominance.
Dusen
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark68 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 12:23:10
August 15 2011 12:22 GMT
#762
Everyone saying "you just have to do this and this aginst1/1/1" We don't see the shit before it's to late.
Freaking cheap ass bunkers infront of the ramp so we can't scout, and in no time you get a auto loss :S
naggerNZ
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand708 Posts
August 15 2011 12:24 GMT
#763
Terrans are beating everyone in Korea atm. The only reason Protosses are feeling it more than Zergs is the fact that Zergs have gotten used to being the victim of imbalance and adjusted to suit. Also, if there was any real imbalance worth noting you wouldn't see the current Protoss domination in EU and most foreign tournaments.
Huntz
Profile Joined July 2011
164 Posts
August 15 2011 12:30 GMT
#764
I think the problem with the "lack of innovation" from Protoss is that all techs have already been used.

For example in PvZ you have startgate, DT, gateway timings, 1,2,3 gate expos and FFE, and a variety of possible 1 base pushes (4 gate/4gate blink/zealot sentry 5 gate).

In the deathball days, zergs just made roach hydra. There were no baneling bombs, there was no ling infestor, ling/bling/infestor, ling/bling/ultra; zerg literally only used roach/hydra/corruptor. Now we see the use of the other units. But protoss is already using all of theirs, aside from carriers and warp prisms, both of which are clearly not the answer. (Carrier because its like saying go BCs/broods; warp prism because there's nothing to drop that is remotely cost effective).
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 12:36:25
August 15 2011 12:34 GMT
#765
On August 15 2011 21:24 naggerNZ wrote:
Terrans are beating everyone in Korea atm. The only reason Protosses are feeling it more than Zergs is the fact that Zergs have gotten used to being the victim of imbalance and adjusted to suit. Also, if there was any real imbalance worth noting you wouldn't see the current Protoss domination in EU and most foreign tournaments.


Naniwa and Sase, the two best foreign protoss besides Huk, just got 2-0'd out of Code A by mediocre zergs in the Ro32. In the highest level there looks to be an imbalance, foreign terrans not being good enough to exploit that doesn't change anything. Also the problem tends to be in the early game, Koreans are often extremely aggressive whereas foreign terrans prefer to sit back and macro. There just seems to be a "let's play a macro game and see who wins" mindset to foreign players whereas Koreans are like "ok let's go win now". Mid to late game PvT is fine, it's just the early game that is extremely annoying.
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ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 12:35:40
August 15 2011 12:35 GMT
#766
On August 15 2011 21:24 naggerNZ wrote:
Terrans are beating everyone in Korea atm. The only reason Protosses are feeling it more than Zergs is the fact that Zergs have gotten used to being the victim of imbalance and adjusted to suit. Also, if there was any real imbalance worth noting you wouldn't see the current Protoss domination in EU and most foreign tournaments.


I disagree completely

It's just a matter of terran being the most complete race with the most options. And at the top level (korea), where every player knows how to exploit and best utilize every aspect of their race, terran will have a slight advantage. It's also obvious to tell that terran has by far the best players. It's hard to make a list of top 5 terrans because there's so many good ones.... it's hard to make a list of top 5 zergs/protoss because who are you really gonna put in there that is capable of a GSL win?

And the reason zergs aren't feeling it as much is because of the nature of vZ. Zergs lose a lot to unscouted stuff, but when it's properly scouted, larva and zerg production can make it so one can easily hold a push. Protoss scouts everything, sees it coming a mile away, but still can't hold stuff like 111 lol
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Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
August 15 2011 12:35 GMT
#767
I've seen Puzzle stomp the 1-1-1 build on his stream many times. What he does is gate->robo->gate-> expand->gate and from there reacts to what he sees. If there are banshees he'll make phoenix otherwise more gates.

For all the advocates of 1 gate expands to more gates, I'd ask you consider this; a long time ago Terrans were crying about Colossi killing their MM ball and Protoss would say it's fair that their tier 3 units destroy tier 1/1.5 units (Marines & Marauders). So doesn't it stand to reason that a Terran's tier 2.5/3 units (tanks and banshees) destroy Protoss' tier 1/1.5 gateway units?
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
August 15 2011 12:36 GMT
#768
why is this thread still open
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