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On July 19 2011 04:21 smallerk wrote:
He can just buy another account, seriously.
Have you ever played WoW and got hacked ? You just cant do it
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On July 19 2011 05:37 Bibdy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 05:32 travis wrote:On July 19 2011 05:27 Bibdy wrote:On July 19 2011 05:24 travis wrote:On July 19 2011 05:22 thatsundowner wrote:On July 19 2011 05:17 travis wrote:
aaaaaaaaanyways, my opinion on this is that blizzard should have warned him before they banned him, as it's kind of a special situation and it really is blizzard's fault their servers can't handle it. depending on who's story you listen to, he was warned multiple times and laughed it off until he actually got banned. and no, it really isn't blizzard's fault that the servers crashed. How is it not blizzard's fault the servers crashed? If you do something that isn't a violation of the rules and the servers crash then who's fault is it other than the people who run the servers? Or was this a violation of the rules and no one mentioned it? According to the message Swifty got it was 'in violation of their zone/area disruption and exploitation policies' (two different policies). Blizzard define what they are. We agree to them by signing the EULA when we login every patch. We violate them, we get busted. Simple as. Common sense alone tells you not to crash 3 servers in a row. This guy obviously had himself a major ego trip, thinking himself invincible due to his celebrity status, assuming that Blizzard wouldn't take action. No bleeding hearts for the people who just want to play their video game, losing playtime because some douchebag causes mass-logins. I went and checked those parts of the eula out the zone/area disruption says:
This category includes language and/or actions intended to disturb groups of players or areas of the world,
I think the key word here is "intended", which clearly this guy did not intend to do so (why would he?) I read the other part too: http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=20224none of it seems applicable at all.... so, I still think blizzard is in the wrong here. You're a technician on-call, and responsible for the working-status, of one of Blizzard's server farms over the weekend. You just got a call from someone on-site telling you that 'some guy' organized three separate incidents of mass-zone-spamming, that each crashed a different server, all in a short space of time. You've got thousands of paying customers complaining that servers are going down and you have no idea if the situation is a malicious attack, a harmless prank, or whatever. You have to make a decision now, that will stop these server crashes. What do you do? You're damned right you ban that idiot.
It's not an uncommon occurrence on WoW and they have several other tools they can use to stop it, such as halting logins. Spamming chat isn't going to do anything, it's just a bunch of people logging into a server with level 1s. Any time anyone important kills anything, that shit happens.
If he didn't adhere to warnings, they have temporary bans they would usually use next. I don't know his entire history though, but the response seems disproportionate for what was actually done.
Either way, in 6 months they'll unban the account and beg him to resubscribe.
For people who don't play WoW, server crashes (login, world, instance) happen fairly often. Usually not from this type of thing, but it's not the same thing as if SC2's Bnet went down for an hour. Most people come to expect some sort of server crash at least a couple times a week. That's why it doesn't seem like a big deal.
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dont understand blizzards decision i mean it's a game guys we all can understand that ppl in real live have to be punished with no regard to there popularity but this is just a fucking game and his a big person in the community .
A hope Blizzard will fix it dont think its gone happen cuz blizzard sucks dicks
feel so sorry for swifty i know how this feels even it wasnt perma ban for me
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lol pvp warrior
Also what prevents him from getting a new account and starting from scratch?
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best time to switch to bloodline champions imo : )
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On July 19 2011 06:39 AlBundy wrote:
lol pvp warrior
Also what prevents him from getting a new account and starting from scratch?
Nothing's stopping him, however he loses everything he has done in the past 6 years on his old account, all the novelty items, all the titles, all the achievements, all the gear and most importantly all the time.
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On July 19 2011 06:39 AlBundy wrote:
lol pvp warrior
Also what prevents him from getting a new account and starting from scratch?
probably the 12,500 hours of game put into the account that was banned.
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On July 19 2011 06:39 AlBundy wrote:
Also what prevents him from getting a new account and starting from scratch?
Absolutely nothing.
If Blizzard were really keen on stopping him, they could obviously discern who he was from the YT videos and everthing, but they've never cared/done that before. Most people who get banned just get another account.
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On July 19 2011 06:37 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 05:37 Bibdy wrote:On July 19 2011 05:32 travis wrote:On July 19 2011 05:27 Bibdy wrote:On July 19 2011 05:24 travis wrote:On July 19 2011 05:22 thatsundowner wrote:On July 19 2011 05:17 travis wrote:
aaaaaaaaanyways, my opinion on this is that blizzard should have warned him before they banned him, as it's kind of a special situation and it really is blizzard's fault their servers can't handle it. depending on who's story you listen to, he was warned multiple times and laughed it off until he actually got banned. and no, it really isn't blizzard's fault that the servers crashed. How is it not blizzard's fault the servers crashed? If you do something that isn't a violation of the rules and the servers crash then who's fault is it other than the people who run the servers? Or was this a violation of the rules and no one mentioned it? According to the message Swifty got it was 'in violation of their zone/area disruption and exploitation policies' (two different policies). Blizzard define what they are. We agree to them by signing the EULA when we login every patch. We violate them, we get busted. Simple as. Common sense alone tells you not to crash 3 servers in a row. This guy obviously had himself a major ego trip, thinking himself invincible due to his celebrity status, assuming that Blizzard wouldn't take action. No bleeding hearts for the people who just want to play their video game, losing playtime because some douchebag causes mass-logins. I went and checked those parts of the eula out the zone/area disruption says:
This category includes language and/or actions intended to disturb groups of players or areas of the world,
I think the key word here is "intended", which clearly this guy did not intend to do so (why would he?) I read the other part too: http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=20224none of it seems applicable at all.... so, I still think blizzard is in the wrong here. You're a technician on-call, and responsible for the working-status, of one of Blizzard's server farms over the weekend. You just got a call from someone on-site telling you that 'some guy' organized three separate incidents of mass-zone-spamming, that each crashed a different server, all in a short space of time. You've got thousands of paying customers complaining that servers are going down and you have no idea if the situation is a malicious attack, a harmless prank, or whatever. You have to make a decision now, that will stop these server crashes. What do you do? You're damned right you ban that idiot. It's not an uncommon occurrence on WoW and they have several other tools they can use to stop it, such as halting logins. Spamming chat isn't going to do anything, it's just a bunch of people logging into a server with level 1s. Any time anyone important kills anything, that shit happens. If he didn't adhere to warnings, they have temporary bans they would usually use next. I don't know his entire history though, but the response seems disproportionate for what was actually done. Either way, in 6 months they'll unban the account and beg him to resubscribe.
I dunno, it seems to me like banning one guy was a pretty effective method of preventing those several thousand from jumping to another server to crash it. Chopping the head off the snake, so to speak. Sure, a temp ban would have been just as effective at stopping it, but I think the punishment fits the crime quite well. Nobody has the right to go around screwing up thousands of other gamers play time, crashing servers, just for a laugh, or a competition or whatever silly excuse you want to come up with. Least of which THREE times in a row. An example should be made of.
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On July 19 2011 06:39 AlBundy wrote:
lol pvp warrior
Also what prevents him from getting a new account and starting from scratch?
Nothing, but when you have like 600 played day in you char, you don't feel like to start from scratch.
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On July 19 2011 06:44 valaki wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 06:39 AlBundy wrote:
lol pvp warrior
Also what prevents him from getting a new account and starting from scratch? Nothing, but when you have like 600 played day in you char, you don't feel like to start from scratch.
Maybe this is a blessing in disguise for the guy, then. I'm pretty certain he's far too invested in the game, and his sponsor, for regular income to stop at a little road bump like this, though.
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On July 19 2011 06:43 Bibdy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 06:37 Jibba wrote:On July 19 2011 05:37 Bibdy wrote:On July 19 2011 05:32 travis wrote:On July 19 2011 05:27 Bibdy wrote:On July 19 2011 05:24 travis wrote:On July 19 2011 05:22 thatsundowner wrote:On July 19 2011 05:17 travis wrote:
aaaaaaaaanyways, my opinion on this is that blizzard should have warned him before they banned him, as it's kind of a special situation and it really is blizzard's fault their servers can't handle it. depending on who's story you listen to, he was warned multiple times and laughed it off until he actually got banned. and no, it really isn't blizzard's fault that the servers crashed. How is it not blizzard's fault the servers crashed? If you do something that isn't a violation of the rules and the servers crash then who's fault is it other than the people who run the servers? Or was this a violation of the rules and no one mentioned it? According to the message Swifty got it was 'in violation of their zone/area disruption and exploitation policies' (two different policies). Blizzard define what they are. We agree to them by signing the EULA when we login every patch. We violate them, we get busted. Simple as. Common sense alone tells you not to crash 3 servers in a row. This guy obviously had himself a major ego trip, thinking himself invincible due to his celebrity status, assuming that Blizzard wouldn't take action. No bleeding hearts for the people who just want to play their video game, losing playtime because some douchebag causes mass-logins. I went and checked those parts of the eula out the zone/area disruption says:
This category includes language and/or actions intended to disturb groups of players or areas of the world,
I think the key word here is "intended", which clearly this guy did not intend to do so (why would he?) I read the other part too: http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=20224none of it seems applicable at all.... so, I still think blizzard is in the wrong here. You're a technician on-call, and responsible for the working-status, of one of Blizzard's server farms over the weekend. You just got a call from someone on-site telling you that 'some guy' organized three separate incidents of mass-zone-spamming, that each crashed a different server, all in a short space of time. You've got thousands of paying customers complaining that servers are going down and you have no idea if the situation is a malicious attack, a harmless prank, or whatever. You have to make a decision now, that will stop these server crashes. What do you do? You're damned right you ban that idiot. It's not an uncommon occurrence on WoW and they have several other tools they can use to stop it, such as halting logins. Spamming chat isn't going to do anything, it's just a bunch of people logging into a server with level 1s. Any time anyone important kills anything, that shit happens. If he didn't adhere to warnings, they have temporary bans they would usually use next. I don't know his entire history though, but the response seems disproportionate for what was actually done. Either way, in 6 months they'll unban the account and beg him to resubscribe. I dunno, it seems to me like banning one guy was a pretty effective method of preventing those several thousand from jumping to another server to crash it. Chopping the head off the snake, so to speak. Sure, a temp ban would have been just as effective at stopping it, but I think the punishment fits the crime quite well. Nobody has the right to go around screwing up thousands of other gamers play time, crashing servers, just for a laugh, or a competition or whatever silly excuse you want to come up with. Least of which THREE times in a row. An example should be made of.
If the ban was just for an example, I'd love to see the thousands of participants who actually caused the damaged to be punished as well. This is not something out of Blizzard's reach. As a matter of fact, it'd probably be really easy for them.
Why scare the 3 guys who could make this happen again when you can scare the 12,000,000 people who would participate in it?
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On July 19 2011 06:46 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 06:43 Bibdy wrote:On July 19 2011 06:37 Jibba wrote:On July 19 2011 05:37 Bibdy wrote:On July 19 2011 05:32 travis wrote:On July 19 2011 05:27 Bibdy wrote:On July 19 2011 05:24 travis wrote:On July 19 2011 05:22 thatsundowner wrote:On July 19 2011 05:17 travis wrote:
aaaaaaaaanyways, my opinion on this is that blizzard should have warned him before they banned him, as it's kind of a special situation and it really is blizzard's fault their servers can't handle it. depending on who's story you listen to, he was warned multiple times and laughed it off until he actually got banned. and no, it really isn't blizzard's fault that the servers crashed. How is it not blizzard's fault the servers crashed? If you do something that isn't a violation of the rules and the servers crash then who's fault is it other than the people who run the servers? Or was this a violation of the rules and no one mentioned it? According to the message Swifty got it was 'in violation of their zone/area disruption and exploitation policies' (two different policies). Blizzard define what they are. We agree to them by signing the EULA when we login every patch. We violate them, we get busted. Simple as. Common sense alone tells you not to crash 3 servers in a row. This guy obviously had himself a major ego trip, thinking himself invincible due to his celebrity status, assuming that Blizzard wouldn't take action. No bleeding hearts for the people who just want to play their video game, losing playtime because some douchebag causes mass-logins. I went and checked those parts of the eula out the zone/area disruption says:
This category includes language and/or actions intended to disturb groups of players or areas of the world,
I think the key word here is "intended", which clearly this guy did not intend to do so (why would he?) I read the other part too: http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=20224none of it seems applicable at all.... so, I still think blizzard is in the wrong here. You're a technician on-call, and responsible for the working-status, of one of Blizzard's server farms over the weekend. You just got a call from someone on-site telling you that 'some guy' organized three separate incidents of mass-zone-spamming, that each crashed a different server, all in a short space of time. You've got thousands of paying customers complaining that servers are going down and you have no idea if the situation is a malicious attack, a harmless prank, or whatever. You have to make a decision now, that will stop these server crashes. What do you do? You're damned right you ban that idiot. It's not an uncommon occurrence on WoW and they have several other tools they can use to stop it, such as halting logins. Spamming chat isn't going to do anything, it's just a bunch of people logging into a server with level 1s. Any time anyone important kills anything, that shit happens. If he didn't adhere to warnings, they have temporary bans they would usually use next. I don't know his entire history though, but the response seems disproportionate for what was actually done. Either way, in 6 months they'll unban the account and beg him to resubscribe. I dunno, it seems to me like banning one guy was a pretty effective method of preventing those several thousand from jumping to another server to crash it. Chopping the head off the snake, so to speak. Sure, a temp ban would have been just as effective at stopping it, but I think the punishment fits the crime quite well. Nobody has the right to go around screwing up thousands of other gamers play time, crashing servers, just for a laugh, or a competition or whatever silly excuse you want to come up with. Least of which THREE times in a row. An example should be made of. If the ban was just for an example, I'd love to see the thousands of participants who actually caused the damaged to be punished as well. This is not something out of Blizzard's reach. As a matter of fact, it'd probably be really easy for them. Why scare the 3 guys who could make this happen again when you can scare the 12,000,000 people who would participate in it?
There's a lot of effort involved in that. You'd have to filter out all of the people that were legitimately in the zone from the ones that weren't (some might have had mains on the servers chosen and joined the ride, so it wouldn't necessarily be only the ones that made new characters), because banning a bunch of legitimate players for the actions of others could cause a lot more flak. Too risky. Banning one guy ends it, and sends a message to other potential leaders of such things.
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On July 19 2011 04:54 Grettin wrote:
I'm not really a fan of WoW anymore but this was just a fucking idiotic move by Blizzard.
Athene did the same thing, but he actually had a goal to crash the servers.
Basically this.
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These swifty videos are making WoW look like a decent game.
He doesn't seem to be the kind of guy who'd do this intentionally. Seems like Blizzard overreacted a bit.
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On July 19 2011 06:49 Bibdy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 06:46 Chargelot wrote:On July 19 2011 06:43 Bibdy wrote:On July 19 2011 06:37 Jibba wrote:On July 19 2011 05:37 Bibdy wrote:On July 19 2011 05:32 travis wrote:On July 19 2011 05:27 Bibdy wrote:On July 19 2011 05:24 travis wrote:On July 19 2011 05:22 thatsundowner wrote:On July 19 2011 05:17 travis wrote:
aaaaaaaaanyways, my opinion on this is that blizzard should have warned him before they banned him, as it's kind of a special situation and it really is blizzard's fault their servers can't handle it. depending on who's story you listen to, he was warned multiple times and laughed it off until he actually got banned. and no, it really isn't blizzard's fault that the servers crashed. How is it not blizzard's fault the servers crashed? If you do something that isn't a violation of the rules and the servers crash then who's fault is it other than the people who run the servers? Or was this a violation of the rules and no one mentioned it? According to the message Swifty got it was 'in violation of their zone/area disruption and exploitation policies' (two different policies). Blizzard define what they are. We agree to them by signing the EULA when we login every patch. We violate them, we get busted. Simple as. Common sense alone tells you not to crash 3 servers in a row. This guy obviously had himself a major ego trip, thinking himself invincible due to his celebrity status, assuming that Blizzard wouldn't take action. No bleeding hearts for the people who just want to play their video game, losing playtime because some douchebag causes mass-logins. I went and checked those parts of the eula out the zone/area disruption says:
This category includes language and/or actions intended to disturb groups of players or areas of the world,
I think the key word here is "intended", which clearly this guy did not intend to do so (why would he?) I read the other part too: http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=20224none of it seems applicable at all.... so, I still think blizzard is in the wrong here. You're a technician on-call, and responsible for the working-status, of one of Blizzard's server farms over the weekend. You just got a call from someone on-site telling you that 'some guy' organized three separate incidents of mass-zone-spamming, that each crashed a different server, all in a short space of time. You've got thousands of paying customers complaining that servers are going down and you have no idea if the situation is a malicious attack, a harmless prank, or whatever. You have to make a decision now, that will stop these server crashes. What do you do? You're damned right you ban that idiot. It's not an uncommon occurrence on WoW and they have several other tools they can use to stop it, such as halting logins. Spamming chat isn't going to do anything, it's just a bunch of people logging into a server with level 1s. Any time anyone important kills anything, that shit happens. If he didn't adhere to warnings, they have temporary bans they would usually use next. I don't know his entire history though, but the response seems disproportionate for what was actually done. Either way, in 6 months they'll unban the account and beg him to resubscribe. I dunno, it seems to me like banning one guy was a pretty effective method of preventing those several thousand from jumping to another server to crash it. Chopping the head off the snake, so to speak. Sure, a temp ban would have been just as effective at stopping it, but I think the punishment fits the crime quite well. Nobody has the right to go around screwing up thousands of other gamers play time, crashing servers, just for a laugh, or a competition or whatever silly excuse you want to come up with. Least of which THREE times in a row. An example should be made of. If the ban was just for an example, I'd love to see the thousands of participants who actually caused the damaged to be punished as well. This is not something out of Blizzard's reach. As a matter of fact, it'd probably be really easy for them. Why scare the 3 guys who could make this happen again when you can scare the 12,000,000 people who would participate in it? There's a lot of effort involved in that. You'd have to filter out all of the people that were legitimately in the zone from the ones that weren't (some might have had mains on the servers chosen and joined the ride, so it wouldn't necessarily be only the ones that made new characters), because banning a bunch of legitimate players for the actions of others could cause a lot more flak. Too risky. Banning one guy ends it, and sends a message to other potential leaders of such things. Well, it didn't stop anything and it's kind of two faced form Blizzard. They love the kind of "events" Swifty got banned for, they just don't want it at that size.
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On July 19 2011 06:49 Bibdy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 06:46 Chargelot wrote:On July 19 2011 06:43 Bibdy wrote:On July 19 2011 06:37 Jibba wrote:On July 19 2011 05:37 Bibdy wrote:On July 19 2011 05:32 travis wrote:On July 19 2011 05:27 Bibdy wrote:On July 19 2011 05:24 travis wrote:On July 19 2011 05:22 thatsundowner wrote:On July 19 2011 05:17 travis wrote:
aaaaaaaaanyways, my opinion on this is that blizzard should have warned him before they banned him, as it's kind of a special situation and it really is blizzard's fault their servers can't handle it. depending on who's story you listen to, he was warned multiple times and laughed it off until he actually got banned. and no, it really isn't blizzard's fault that the servers crashed. How is it not blizzard's fault the servers crashed? If you do something that isn't a violation of the rules and the servers crash then who's fault is it other than the people who run the servers? Or was this a violation of the rules and no one mentioned it? According to the message Swifty got it was 'in violation of their zone/area disruption and exploitation policies' (two different policies). Blizzard define what they are. We agree to them by signing the EULA when we login every patch. We violate them, we get busted. Simple as. Common sense alone tells you not to crash 3 servers in a row. This guy obviously had himself a major ego trip, thinking himself invincible due to his celebrity status, assuming that Blizzard wouldn't take action. No bleeding hearts for the people who just want to play their video game, losing playtime because some douchebag causes mass-logins. I went and checked those parts of the eula out the zone/area disruption says:
This category includes language and/or actions intended to disturb groups of players or areas of the world,
I think the key word here is "intended", which clearly this guy did not intend to do so (why would he?) I read the other part too: http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=20224none of it seems applicable at all.... so, I still think blizzard is in the wrong here. You're a technician on-call, and responsible for the working-status, of one of Blizzard's server farms over the weekend. You just got a call from someone on-site telling you that 'some guy' organized three separate incidents of mass-zone-spamming, that each crashed a different server, all in a short space of time. You've got thousands of paying customers complaining that servers are going down and you have no idea if the situation is a malicious attack, a harmless prank, or whatever. You have to make a decision now, that will stop these server crashes. What do you do? You're damned right you ban that idiot. It's not an uncommon occurrence on WoW and they have several other tools they can use to stop it, such as halting logins. Spamming chat isn't going to do anything, it's just a bunch of people logging into a server with level 1s. Any time anyone important kills anything, that shit happens. If he didn't adhere to warnings, they have temporary bans they would usually use next. I don't know his entire history though, but the response seems disproportionate for what was actually done. Either way, in 6 months they'll unban the account and beg him to resubscribe. I dunno, it seems to me like banning one guy was a pretty effective method of preventing those several thousand from jumping to another server to crash it. Chopping the head off the snake, so to speak. Sure, a temp ban would have been just as effective at stopping it, but I think the punishment fits the crime quite well. Nobody has the right to go around screwing up thousands of other gamers play time, crashing servers, just for a laugh, or a competition or whatever silly excuse you want to come up with. Least of which THREE times in a row. An example should be made of. If the ban was just for an example, I'd love to see the thousands of participants who actually caused the damaged to be punished as well. This is not something out of Blizzard's reach. As a matter of fact, it'd probably be really easy for them. Why scare the 3 guys who could make this happen again when you can scare the 12,000,000 people who would participate in it? There's a lot of effort involved in that. You'd have to filter out all of the people that were legitimately in the zone from the ones that weren't (some might have had mains on the servers chosen and joined the ride, so it wouldn't necessarily be only the ones that made new characters), because banning a bunch of legitimate players for the actions of others could cause a lot more flak. Too risky. Banning one guy ends it, and sends a message to other potential leaders of such things.
Blizzard has chat logs of everything said in every zone, in every channel, on every server. I don't think it would be too difficult for a multi-billion dollar corporation to figure out how to get a list of names of players who were participating in the event, and especially those who were spamming and spewing racism etc..
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On July 19 2011 06:53 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 06:49 Bibdy wrote:On July 19 2011 06:46 Chargelot wrote:On July 19 2011 06:43 Bibdy wrote:On July 19 2011 06:37 Jibba wrote:On July 19 2011 05:37 Bibdy wrote:On July 19 2011 05:32 travis wrote:On July 19 2011 05:27 Bibdy wrote:On July 19 2011 05:24 travis wrote:On July 19 2011 05:22 thatsundowner wrote:
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depending on who's story you listen to, he was warned multiple times and laughed it off until he actually got banned.
and no, it really isn't blizzard's fault that the servers crashed. How is it not blizzard's fault the servers crashed? If you do something that isn't a violation of the rules and the servers crash then who's fault is it other than the people who run the servers? Or was this a violation of the rules and no one mentioned it? According to the message Swifty got it was 'in violation of their zone/area disruption and exploitation policies' (two different policies). Blizzard define what they are. We agree to them by signing the EULA when we login every patch. We violate them, we get busted. Simple as. Common sense alone tells you not to crash 3 servers in a row. This guy obviously had himself a major ego trip, thinking himself invincible due to his celebrity status, assuming that Blizzard wouldn't take action. No bleeding hearts for the people who just want to play their video game, losing playtime because some douchebag causes mass-logins. I went and checked those parts of the eula out the zone/area disruption says:
This category includes language and/or actions intended to disturb groups of players or areas of the world,
I think the key word here is "intended", which clearly this guy did not intend to do so (why would he?) I read the other part too: http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=20224none of it seems applicable at all.... so, I still think blizzard is in the wrong here. You're a technician on-call, and responsible for the working-status, of one of Blizzard's server farms over the weekend. You just got a call from someone on-site telling you that 'some guy' organized three separate incidents of mass-zone-spamming, that each crashed a different server, all in a short space of time. You've got thousands of paying customers complaining that servers are going down and you have no idea if the situation is a malicious attack, a harmless prank, or whatever. You have to make a decision now, that will stop these server crashes. What do you do? You're damned right you ban that idiot. It's not an uncommon occurrence on WoW and they have several other tools they can use to stop it, such as halting logins. Spamming chat isn't going to do anything, it's just a bunch of people logging into a server with level 1s. Any time anyone important kills anything, that shit happens. If he didn't adhere to warnings, they have temporary bans they would usually use next. I don't know his entire history though, but the response seems disproportionate for what was actually done. Either way, in 6 months they'll unban the account and beg him to resubscribe. I dunno, it seems to me like banning one guy was a pretty effective method of preventing those several thousand from jumping to another server to crash it. Chopping the head off the snake, so to speak. Sure, a temp ban would have been just as effective at stopping it, but I think the punishment fits the crime quite well. Nobody has the right to go around screwing up thousands of other gamers play time, crashing servers, just for a laugh, or a competition or whatever silly excuse you want to come up with. Least of which THREE times in a row. An example should be made of. If the ban was just for an example, I'd love to see the thousands of participants who actually caused the damaged to be punished as well. This is not something out of Blizzard's reach. As a matter of fact, it'd probably be really easy for them. Why scare the 3 guys who could make this happen again when you can scare the 12,000,000 people who would participate in it? There's a lot of effort involved in that. You'd have to filter out all of the people that were legitimately in the zone from the ones that weren't (some might have had mains on the servers chosen and joined the ride, so it wouldn't necessarily be only the ones that made new characters), because banning a bunch of legitimate players for the actions of others could cause a lot more flak. Too risky. Banning one guy ends it, and sends a message to other potential leaders of such things. Blizzard has chat logs of everything said in every zone, in every channel, on every server. I don't think it would be too difficult for a multi-billion dollar corporation to figure out how to get a list of names of players who were participating in the event, and especially those who were spamming and spewing racism etc..
Maybe they're working on it, maybe they aren't. Who's to say? Didn't this just happen this weekend? I'd hate to be the guy that just got in this Monday morning and was told to go through the logs to get the names of all those folks.
I just think it's a futile gesture at this point. A pretty clear, stern message has been sent out to the perpetrators. If they're stupid enough to set up another one (which they seem to be, what with the spamming going on to get the guy back), then I think they'll be more likely to take action against them.
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On July 19 2011 04:47 PanzerKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 04:45 Sernyl wrote:
Did you people even watch the live stream event before posting?... Who cares? Swifty is scum, and WoW is better off without him. Of course, he'll just dip into the huge pile of money he made from ripping newbies off and he'll buy another copy of the game. You can take a Warrior 1-80 in about 3 days, so all this sympathy for him is total farce.
first of all its 85 and if you dont like WoW or dont care about it why do you go on this thread ?!
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