EPTPetition for New (good) Maps - Page 5
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TheCrimsonReaper
United States167 Posts
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LittleAtari
Jordan1090 Posts
it would be neat if blizzard had a way that we could vote on the best 1v1 maps that werent in the ladder or have pro players pick 5 maps that they wanted in the pool and use that to add a few new maps in :O edit: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2743686312#1 suggested it \o/ | ||
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Kolvacs
Canada1203 Posts
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monitor
United States2409 Posts
On June 30 2011 12:04 Ocedic wrote: If you took 20 never before seen maps, 10 from Blizzard and 10 that were community made, and you had to decide which were which, no one would be able to do it. If Blizzard makes new maps, I accept the challenge. Unless they dramatically improve their concepts, aesthetics, and balance, it'll always be easy to tell. However, the true point is to get good maps into tournaments, not just remove Blizzard maps. For example, the OP/Petition clearly states that there are good Blizzard maps like Metalopolis. This point is to remove bad ones and replace them with these community maps. On June 30 2011 12:04 Ocedic wrote: Fact is, people reject Blizzard maps simply because they're Blizzard, and embrace community maps (even awful ones) simply because they aren't Blizzard maps. I wish I could give an anti-signature to this petition. What? How about XelNaga Caverns (one, if not the most popular sc2 map)? What about all of love for Shakuras Plateau? I don't hear anybody begging for them to be removed from the ladder. On June 30 2011 12:04 Ocedic wrote: It's one thing to create maps and hope the community embraces them, it's other to insult other peoples' (Blizzard's) work in order to promote your own. When is Blizzards work insulted? Insult - in·sult/inˈsəlt/ Speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. iGrok only mentions in the petition that there are currently bad maps in the map pool. This is a fact of the map, not disrespect towards Blizzard. The promotion is justified; the proposed maps are much better than some of those in the current ladder. | ||
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Demonace34
United States2493 Posts
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Chocolate
United States2350 Posts
On June 30 2011 13:22 monitor wrote: If Blizzard makes new maps, I accept the challenge. Unless they dramatically improve their concepts, aesthetics, and balance, it'll always be easy to tell. However, the true point is to get good maps into tournaments, not just remove Blizzard maps. For example, the OP/Petition clearly states that there are good Blizzard maps like Metalopolis. This point is to remove bad ones and replace them with these community maps. What? How about XelNaga Caverns (one, if not the most popular sc2 map)? What about all of love for Shakuras Plateau? I don't hear anybody begging for them to be removed from the ladder. When is Blizzards work insulted? Insult - in·sult/inˈsəlt/ Speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. iGrok only mentions in the petition that there are currently bad maps in the map pool. This is a fact of the map, not disrespect towards Blizzard. The promotion is justified; the proposed maps are much better than some of those in the current ladder. stop being so logical, people like to argue | ||
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monitor
United States2409 Posts
On June 30 2011 13:26 Chocolate wrote: stop being so logical, people like to argue Lol, xD. Isn't the point of an argument to be logical? Ahem, otherwise its just a rant... | ||
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zerK
Canada176 Posts
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MonsieurGrimm
Canada2441 Posts
On June 30 2011 13:10 Headnoob wrote: The chokes are too easy to defend so early, a turtling terran could very easily take 2 extra bases and probably go unpunished. it's not quite as bad on sanctuarium, but yeah. With the proximity of expansions, once a push happens and a base goes down, it's highly unlikely the push will able to be stopped. but the expansions are easy for all races. terran and protoss benefit from the chokes, and zerg benefits from not having to make a ton of units to kill some fucking rocks (I fucking hate rocks) in order to expand. you don't always have to punish an expansion, you can often just expand yourself I agree that the proximity of expansions leads to this, but so does having small maps and both of these maps are relatively large compared to some blizz maps. also, having far away, impossible to defend expansions doesn't help the gameplay much either since you're forced into low econ allins :S | ||
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Yergidy
United States2107 Posts
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
I didn´t sign this because apart from the Blizzard Map pool this seems like an agenda from someone to get their maps recognized, which is fine I suppose but I feel its latching on that people want tourney maps for the ladder and basically asks for their maps to be included in other tournaments. But I guess its hard for new map makers to make a name for themeselves, only iccup and GSL maps seem to get any recognition | ||
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MonsieurGrimm
Canada2441 Posts
On June 30 2011 13:22 monitor wrote: What? How about XelNaga Caverns (one, if not the most popular sc2 map)? What about all of love for Shakuras Plateau? I don't hear anybody begging for them to be removed from the ladder. actually... xel naga and shakuras aren't really amazing, although they're far, far better than some of the other maps blizz has made. xelnaga is very, very hard to win zvt when terran takes the gold, and shakuras is full of chokes so zvp is pretty hard. that said, there are probably some zerg favoured ones in there that my bias is hiding (shattered temple maybe?) and the advantage given by the maps is very small. but they aren't perfect by any means. | ||
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Luzmik
United States3 Posts
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Silent331
United States356 Posts
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rickybobby
United States405 Posts
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
On June 30 2011 13:34 windsupernova wrote: Wouldn´t this work better as a thread in the Bnet forums instead of a petition. I didn´t sign this because apart from the Blizzard Map pool this seems like an agenda from someone to get their maps recognized, which is fine I suppose but I feel its latching on that people want tourney maps for the ladder and basically asks for their maps to be included in other tournaments. But I guess its hard for new map makers to make a name for themeselves, only iccup and GSL maps seem to get any recognition The thing is... Neither of these are my maps. In fact, none of the Map of the Month maps are mine. However, I'm doing everything I can to promote these maps, because I feel like they are the absolute best that the TL community has made. On June 30 2011 13:38 Silent331 wrote: Posted on the BNet Forums with a link to this thread and an explicit message saying that this is not my petition Thank you! Could you link that here as well? | ||
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will.pity
Australia89 Posts
Please take community made maps into consideration for ladder! MOTM maps are more interesting than anything on ladder atm | ||
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Jimbooo
203 Posts
Signed ^^ | ||
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Maynarde
Australia1286 Posts
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omisa
United States494 Posts
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