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stormchaser
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-30 03:01:03
June 30 2011 03:00 GMT
#41
Petitions won't do much
sevia
Profile Joined May 2010
United States954 Posts
June 30 2011 03:00 GMT
#42
Community maps are obviously far better for what we define as good gameplay, but unfortunately, Blizzard has a different idea of what 'good gameplay' is. Just look at their explanations of the new S3 maps. They strictly define a few of them as 'rush' maps, or as having 'rush' gameplay in certain spawning positions. The fact that they say this like it isn't a bad thing is troubling.

The awful state of the current map pool is purposeful. It's not ignorance on their part, it's just that they believe that being able to take a third base on every map is a bad thing. I doubt Blizzard ladder will ever change, and for that reason, it will continue to be worthless.

I'm sure you guys on the mapping team have seen some of the alternative ladder systems like NTBL popping up. Rather than trying to convince Blizzard to alter their mindset, it's probably better to support ladders that actual users have control over.
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Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
June 30 2011 03:04 GMT
#43
If you took 20 never before seen maps, 10 from Blizzard and 10 that were community made, and you had to decide which were which, no one would be able to do it.

Fact is, people reject Blizzard maps simply because they're Blizzard, and embrace community maps (even awful ones) simply because they aren't Blizzard maps. I wish I could give an anti-signature to this petition. It's one thing to create maps and hope the community embraces them, it's other to insult other peoples' (Blizzard's) work in order to promote your own.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
June 30 2011 03:06 GMT
#44
On June 30 2011 12:04 Ocedic wrote:
If you took 20 never before seen maps, 10 from Blizzard and 10 that were community made, and you had to decide which were which, no one would be able to do it.

So you're saying the community maps are good enough to appear on the Blizzard ladder?

Awesome! TL mappers thank you for your vote of confidence. ^_^
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
June 30 2011 03:07 GMT
#45
On June 30 2011 12:04 Ocedic wrote:
If you took 20 never before seen maps, 10 from Blizzard and 10 that were community made, and you had to decide which were which, no one would be able to do it.

Fact is, people reject Blizzard maps simply because they're Blizzard, and embrace community maps (even awful ones) simply because they aren't Blizzard maps. I wish I could give an anti-signature to this petition. It's one thing to create maps and hope the community embraces them, it's other to insult other peoples' (Blizzard's) work in order to promote your own.

but it'd be pretty obvious to tell the worst blizzard maps from the best community ones, which is the whole point of the petition
imareaver3
Profile Joined June 2010
United States906 Posts
June 30 2011 03:07 GMT
#46
On June 30 2011 12:04 Ocedic wrote:
If you took 20 never before seen maps, 10 from Blizzard and 10 that were community made, and you had to decide which were which, no one would be able to do it.

Fact is, people reject Blizzard maps simply because they're Blizzard, and embrace community maps (even awful ones) simply because they aren't Blizzard maps. I wish I could give an anti-signature to this petition. It's one thing to create maps and hope the community embraces them, it's other to insult other peoples' (Blizzard's) work in order to promote your own.



Meh, you could tell the maps of the top Korean mapmakers apart from Blizzard maps. They tend to experiment more (Less minerals at some bases, rich geysers) and allow for generally easier expansion and longer rush distances, along with less rocks across expansions.
insta111
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States80 Posts
June 30 2011 03:07 GMT
#47
On June 30 2011 12:04 Ocedic wrote:
If you took 20 never before seen maps, 10 from Blizzard and 10 that were community made, and you had to decide which were which, no one would be able to do it.

Fact is, people reject Blizzard maps simply because they're Blizzard, and embrace community maps (even awful ones) simply because they aren't Blizzard maps. I wish I could give an anti-signature to this petition. It's one thing to create maps and hope the community embraces them, it's other to insult other peoples' (Blizzard's) work in order to promote your own.


But if you could see which maps allowed close spawns, it would be pretty easy

However, I agree that Blizzard has put out decent maps, aside from DQ, Slag Pits, Scrap Station, and close positions Metal and Shattered. With three downvotes, though, my games as a Zerg turn out okay for the most part.
Utukka
Profile Joined September 2010
26 Posts
June 30 2011 03:09 GMT
#48
On June 30 2011 11:34 DeepBlu2 wrote:
signed but the reason they won't do it, which I disagree with, is because they believe that larger maps can be not only imbalanced but are terrible for low league players. The defense is that you can veto the maps you don't like but there are not enough vetoes sadly. If anything, you can expect the larger maps (like tal'darim) to be changed or removed. I doubt their mindset will change sadly. They do have a reasonable defense though.


If their big concern is lower level players, maybe they should consider adding maps that are for diamond and higher players only. That way the lower players aren't overwhelmed and the higher up players still get what they want. I personally would love for a larger map pool.
pyrestrike
Profile Joined October 2010
United States235 Posts
June 30 2011 03:09 GMT
#49
signed. Let's get this done! :D
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Atlare
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia893 Posts
June 30 2011 03:10 GMT
#50
Signed and I believe I saw djWHEAT's name a few under mine so you're getting top notch support
Considering learning BW
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
June 30 2011 03:11 GMT
#51
These maps look pretty unique :D Would be fun to test, and smooth them out ^^
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TerrorBird
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada58 Posts
June 30 2011 03:12 GMT
#52
I'm skeptical as to whether or not the petition will do anything, but I'm greatly in favor so I signed it anyway :D
Blacken the sun, bloody the moon.
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
June 30 2011 03:16 GMT
#53
/Signed
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
AndreiDaGiant
Profile Joined October 2010
United States394 Posts
June 30 2011 03:18 GMT
#54
i really like the look of Sanctuarium... could make for some sick macro dood! Signed!!! :D
Terran Metal for the Win
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
June 30 2011 03:18 GMT
#55
I was going to say that Blizzard doesn't listen to petitions, but those maps are beautiful!
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Moff
Profile Joined August 2008
United Kingdom166 Posts
June 30 2011 03:22 GMT
#56
Signed
Reptilia
Profile Joined June 2010
Chile913 Posts
June 30 2011 03:32 GMT
#57
what about "the eighteenth"?
The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
June 30 2011 03:35 GMT
#58
signed
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
June 30 2011 03:35 GMT
#59
signed!
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sOAvoid
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada206 Posts
June 30 2011 03:36 GMT
#60
bring back steppes please then i join
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