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Saying gg first... BM? And how if you think so.

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MERLIN.
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada546 Posts
June 19 2011 23:57 GMT
#1
I've been curious lately about how if I say gg before my oppOnent it is taken as bm...

I simply think a match is good and I say gg when I is 100% (as in I have five bases and my opponent has no mining and I just defeated his army)

How is saying good game constitute as bad manners... If I say it then lose well i look like an idiot but if it really was gg I just don't get it(and I've never said it and lost, this isn't about saying gg prematurely but when the game is over for sure)
"A bullet to the head will solve your problems."
Xova
Profile Joined November 2010
United States342 Posts
June 19 2011 23:58 GMT
#2
Search function please.
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Ulfsark
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States958 Posts
June 19 2011 23:58 GMT
#3
Its sort of like saying "you lose!"

its better for them to admit defeat before you tell them that they have lost. However close a game may be to over it is never over until your opponent leaves the game.
gg wp
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 19 2011 23:59 GMT
#4
because you ''rub'' it in your opponents face that you won, which is not really a good thing.
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DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 23:59:35
June 19 2011 23:59 GMT
#5
"gg" is not just "good game". It stands for good game, but how often is "laughing out loud" actually laughing out loud?

Check Liquipedia for a more thorough explanation.
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lazydino
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada331 Posts
June 19 2011 23:59 GMT
#6
I don't think this deserves to be a thread. Post in the simple questions simple answers thread.
"I have this moron thing that I do, it's called thinking" - George Carlin
TALegion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1187 Posts
June 19 2011 23:59 GMT
#7
People take it as your being rude and insisting that they quit. It's like you're rubbing it in their face that they lost.
If it's a sincere GG, you might want to clarify it by actually saying something along the lines of, "GG, bro. Had fun."
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Gheed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States972 Posts
June 20 2011 00:00 GMT
#8
Offensive GGing is universally regarded as BM. Just don't do it.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
June 20 2011 00:00 GMT
#9
Offensive GG is the worst thing ever and you are a bad person for doing it.
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antikk555
Profile Joined March 2011
85 Posts
June 20 2011 00:00 GMT
#10
Who gives a fuck?
Tatari
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1179 Posts
June 20 2011 00:00 GMT
#11
It's the same as slapping the guy's face with your dick.

Don't do it. It's rude almost all the time.
A fed jungler is no longer a jungler, but a terrorist.
PBJ
Profile Joined August 2010
United States141 Posts
June 20 2011 00:00 GMT
#12
Saying "gg" isn't saying "I think this was a good game." Saying "gg" is a means to surrender when you are defeated and it shows respect towards your opponent. It functions the same way as shaking hands with the other team after a sport match.

When you are winning and gg first, you are actually sending the message "GTFO"
SoundProof
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden99 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 00:05:48
June 20 2011 00:02 GMT
#13
Basically, an offensive gg is an ill-concieved way of impolitely telling your opponent to get out of the game, and will always be percieved as a pinnacle of smugness. Or to put it in other words, in stead of shaking your opponents virtual hand, you simply pat yourself on the back and tell said opponent how highly you think of yourself for achieveing this, alternatively how lowly you think of his/hers ability to play the game.
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Datum
Profile Joined February 2011
United States371 Posts
June 20 2011 00:03 GMT
#14
I always get mad when someone is destroying me and then says GG right before I do. It both feels like he's rubbing his win in my face, and also feels like he's deciding that I lost for me. I prefer to decide when I've lost, and I don't like when someone makes the decision for me. Not only is the opponent controlling the game, but he's even controlling your actions, by forcing you to say GG when he decides.

I understand that most of the time, people aren't being BM, and I try to stifle my anger and not do anything stupid. I've just listed the thoughts that come to mind when someone GG's "for me", but I often act as if they didn't do anything wrong, GG, and then leave.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
June 20 2011 00:03 GMT
#15
On June 20 2011 08:59 TALegion wrote:
People take it as your being rude and insisting that they quit. It's like you're rubbing it in their face that they lost.
If it's a sincere GG, you might want to clarify it by actually saying something along the lines of, "GG, bro. Had fun."

That can be taken as insulting


Best not talk and just win and wait for him to concede.
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Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1040 Posts
June 20 2011 00:04 GMT
#16
On June 20 2011 08:59 lazydino wrote:
I don't think this deserves to be a thread. Post in the simple questions simple answers thread.



this

and also, the only time it would be warranted is if you're opponent is intentionally stalling out the game, in which case you'd be better off asking politely first.
I may appear to be an emotionless sarcastic pos, but just like an onion when you pull off more and more layers you find the exact same thing everytime and you start crying
DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
June 20 2011 00:04 GMT
#17
"gg" does not mean "it was a good game"

"gg" is like saying "good day" when making a formal exit. It would be rude to tell someone "bye" before they were ready to leave (as if rushing a guest out the door).

If you want to let your opponent know you thought it was actually a good game, say so (you're up 5 bases to 0 mining and just beat his army, you can afford to actually type "good game").
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
June 20 2011 00:05 GMT
#18
If you ever recieve one you would know why. Don't do the offensive GG's since it feels like a slap in the face after you're losing.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
June 20 2011 00:06 GMT
#19
Don't make a big deal out of it.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
June 20 2011 00:07 GMT
#20
Or, it could simply mean: "I think this game is about to end. I want to thank you for playing well this game, before you leave." Too often the opponent would gg and leave, or simply leave, way too fast for that.

Sadly, everyone assumes rudeness nowadays, whatever you do - and that has become part of the unofficial code for gg.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
skirmisheR
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden451 Posts
June 20 2011 00:09 GMT
#21
Pretty much what DusTerr said. If you really liked the game, please whisper him afterwards instead and say "thanks for the game" or something, much better than doing the offensive GG.
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MethodSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States928 Posts
June 20 2011 00:09 GMT
#22
Might as well just say "gtfo". It's the same thing as offensive gg. Why do you feel the need to gg before he says it in the first place? There is 0 logic in your post.
StarcraftXTZM
Profile Joined May 2011
30 Posts
June 20 2011 00:09 GMT
#23
GG is nailing ure opponents coffin for him. instead of giving him the Honor of doing it himself.
Greenworld
Profile Joined March 2011
93 Posts
June 20 2011 00:10 GMT
#24
Well what happens if you gg and you don't win in the end ? . I know it happend for me to win after the opponent said gg noob and guess what i won in the end and i flamed him a lot = priceless . But it's very rude to do that . It's rude don't do it .
QooQ
Profile Joined February 2011
United States96 Posts
June 20 2011 00:13 GMT
#25
Why not tell him you are having fun that game without saying GG? That's what I do and usually they will agree and become friendly.
MikeC_81
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada10 Posts
June 20 2011 00:14 GMT
#26
Here is a Magic the Gathering community take on GG.

http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/fundamentals/21133_GG.html
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
June 20 2011 00:15 GMT
#27
On June 20 2011 09:07 figq wrote:
Or, it could simply mean: "I think this game is about to end. I want to thank you for playing well this game, before you leave." Too often the opponent would gg and leave, or simply leave, way too fast for that.

Sadly, everyone assumes rudeness nowadays, whatever you do - and that has become part of the unofficial code for gg.


Or it could mean "I really like ice cream. My favorite flavor is vanilla strawberry." However, it doesn't mean that.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
ODKStevez
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland1225 Posts
June 20 2011 00:15 GMT
#28
On June 20 2011 09:03 Datum wrote:
I always get mad when someone is destroying me and then says GG right before I do. It both feels like he's rubbing his win in my face, and also feels like he's deciding that I lost for me. I prefer to decide when I've lost, and I don't like when someone makes the decision for me. Not only is the opponent controlling the game, but he's even controlling your actions, by forcing you to say GG when he decides.

I understand that most of the time, people aren't being BM, and I try to stifle my anger and not do anything stupid. I've just listed the thoughts that come to mind when someone GG's "for me", but I often act as if they didn't do anything wrong, GG, and then leave.


I feel exactly like this when people do this to me.
Luppa <3
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
June 20 2011 00:17 GMT
#29
If anyone ever gg's before I tap out, I just hide buildings all over the map and waste their time while I grab a snack.
#TeamBuLba
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
June 20 2011 00:18 GMT
#30
It is usually meant as an offensive gg, it implies saying "haha you suck, I won" whether you mean it or not.
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ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
June 20 2011 00:19 GMT
#31
Offensive GG is by far the most BM thing you can ever do on ladder. Anything racist, sexist, offensive or any other kind of BM pales on comparison. If someone offensive GG's I do my best to make sure he has to try hard to find and kill the rest of my buildings, (hard as zerg). Even if I was just about to gg. It's such a vile trait.
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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 00:20:52
June 20 2011 00:20 GMT
#32
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=147531

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=206962

This is going to turn into the same discussion as the first thread. The real question is who cares?


On June 20 2011 09:19 ComusLoM wrote:
Offensive GG is by far the most BM thing you can ever do on ladder. Anything racist, sexist, offensive or any other kind of BM pales on comparison. If someone offensive GG's I do my best to make sure he has to try hard to find and kill the rest of my buildings, (hard as zerg). Even if I was just about to gg. It's such a vile trait.


Lol you just won the thread.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
SweetenemY
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany136 Posts
June 20 2011 00:20 GMT
#33
try to offensive GG idra O_o

serious: everyone has the right to decide wether or not he think its time to leave, dont rush them.
I for myself get a big motivation-spike to turn it around and win against the offensiveGG-player, and if thats not going to happen i enjoy to play "hide the farm" - sadly i dont play Terran ^^
Skill is, when luck gets a matter of habit
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
June 20 2011 00:21 GMT
#34
Most of the time people aren't trying to rude, they just want to end the game and get on with the next one.

Don't take it personally or get emotional about it, because if they are trying to be rude you're giving him the reaction he wants.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
MERLIN.
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada546 Posts
June 20 2011 00:21 GMT
#35
Well I guess ill say wp from now on no one can confuse well played...
"A bullet to the head will solve your problems."
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
June 20 2011 00:22 GMT
#36
Your opponent hasn't given up and you're telling him the game is over

I remember getting offensive gg'ed. I really thought he gave up, so I gg'ed back. I thought it was still a really close game. 5 minutes later he realized I had a base he didn't see and that it was still close and he was like "sorry."

I think a lot of offensive gg'ers are well intentioned. It's just annoying having someone else call the game for you before you've given up, so simply don't offensive gg
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DMKraft
Profile Joined December 2010
476 Posts
June 20 2011 00:22 GMT
#37
Offensive GGing is weird it makes my buildings float to every corner of the map while I grab a snack. Happens every time.
Quesa
Profile Joined November 2010
United States304 Posts
June 20 2011 00:23 GMT
#38
In CS I used to get pissed off when my clan leader would respond to a 'GG' prior to the 24th or 30th round.

On June 20 2011 09:07 figq wrote:Sadly, everyone assumes rudeness nowadays, whatever you do - and that has become part of the unofficial code for gg.


It's been that way for a very, very long time. If you think it was a good game, say 'man what a barn burner' or 'wow I can't believe how tense that was,' or hell I don't know 'good game man' just don't use the shorthand for concession.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
MethodSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States928 Posts
June 20 2011 00:23 GMT
#39
On June 20 2011 09:13 QooQ wrote:
Why not tell him you are having fun that game without saying GG? That's what I do and usually they will agree and become friendly.


What kind of logic are you using to feel that you need to talk to someone about the game when you are winning? Think of it this way; If you were on the losing side would you be saying how fun of a game it was? Would you want them to be saying how much fun the game was? The answer 99% of the time will be no. Stop using hypocrite logic please. Thank you.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25996 Posts
June 20 2011 00:23 GMT
#40
We don't need a thread on this. Saying gg first is the same as saying "You lose" which is 100% bad manner.
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