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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On June 10 2011 01:11 Kiante wrote: well hitler didn't drive the tanks into poland so i guess he shouldn't be responsible right? Keep on escalating. Hitler ordered those attacks and had malicious intent. | ||
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btxmonty
Panama80 Posts
On June 10 2011 01:10 kasumimi wrote: To sum up the thread: -Grubby: Fulfilling his contract to Steelseries = No problem. -Steelseries: Trying to sell their product to make money = No problem. -Blizzard: Selling those macro keyboards in the Blizzard store and then banning you for it = Greed topped with Hypocrisy. I don't think there is anything else to say... I can't bash grubby, the guy is still trying to survive as a pro-gamer and hasn't been able to adapt correctly. Gaming has been his job for so many years, I don't think he would just deny SS to promote something even BLIZZARD sells in their store. | ||
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Ambasa
United States29 Posts
On June 10 2011 01:15 Torte de Lini wrote: Keep on escalating. Hitler ordered those attacks and had malicious intent. GODWIN's LAW | ||
Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
On June 10 2011 01:14 RvB wrote: stop argueing in extreme's it's a bad way of debating. people make to big of a deal out of these sort of things, steelseries made a mistake these things happen chill out :p. How is this extreme? If he's shown he's capable of putting aside his morals for this, what is to stop him doing it for other things. Its pretty clear that grubby only cares about money and not about the integrity of the game. people saying this only affects lower league players a) dont really understand how much this could be exploited and b) dont realise that theres a whole mass of lower league players and this could potentially ruin the game. If you ahve an opponent on ladder using this they have a huge unfair advantage thats against the rules, and grubby is the one who took money to promote it. thats dirty as fuck | ||
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Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
On June 10 2011 01:15 Torte de Lini wrote: Keep on escalating. Hitler ordered those attacks and had malicious intent. Grubby's intent is pure? i dont think so | ||
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TI83
78 Posts
Would you say that Grubby is not responsible / not to blame ? That's the exact same situation. | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
So basicly this is a video where gruby say that he cheat and explain how to cheat in the game. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6303 Posts
On June 10 2011 01:17 Kiante wrote: How is this extreme? If he's shown he's capable of putting aside his morals for this, what is to stop him doing it for other things. Its pretty clear that grubby only cares about money and not about the integrity of the game. people saying this only affects lower league players a) dont really understand how much this could be exploited and b) dont realise that theres a whole mass of lower league players and this could potentially ruin the game. If you ahve an opponent on ladder using this they have a huge unfair advantage thats against the rules, and grubby is the one who took money to promote it. thats dirty as fuck Yes, doing an ad for your sponsor to advertise a macro keyboard is seriously for someone without morale, go reread your posts and if you still don't see why you're debating in extreme's I am done talking to you anyway I'll stop derailing the thread. | ||
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Butcherski
Poland446 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On June 10 2011 01:17 Kiante wrote: How is this extreme? If he's shown he's capable of putting aside his morals for this, what is to stop him doing it for other things. Its pretty clear that grubby only cares about money and not about the integrity of the game. people saying this only affects lower league players a) dont really understand how much this could be exploited and b) dont realise that theres a whole mass of lower league players and this could potentially ruin the game. If you ahve an opponent on ladder using this they have a huge unfair advantage thats against the rules, and grubby is the one who took money to promote it. thats dirty as fuck OMG YES, THE INTEGRITY OF THE GAME, RIMSHOT E-SPORTS ARGUMENT!!11 Whether Grubby promotes it or not doesn't really change much that it will be on the market, it will garner the interest of those with malicious intent and if you're concerned with mixed messages being sent out to potential innocent buyers, consider Blizzard's own mistakes. Your example of Hitler in comparison to grubby and "morals" are vastly different and on a whole new level. First off, I think you mean values. Secondly, I think you need to consider other factors besides the redundant issue of "money". It's equivalent or on a comparable level as Hitler and genocide? I don't think so. | ||
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Eluadyl
Turkey364 Posts
These kind of equipment have always been around and were always promoted by progamers in someway or another. This one suffers from being a little careless but no big deal imho. | ||
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Marcus420
Canada1923 Posts
On June 10 2011 01:17 Kiante wrote: How is this extreme? If he's shown he's capable of putting aside his morals for this, what is to stop him doing it for other things. Its pretty clear that grubby only cares about money and not about the integrity of the game. people saying this only affects lower league players a) dont really understand how much this could be exploited and b) dont realise that theres a whole mass of lower league players and this could potentially ruin the game. If you ahve an opponent on ladder using this they have a huge unfair advantage thats against the rules, and grubby is the one who took money to promote it. thats dirty as fuck Its extreme because youre blowing things way out of proportion. Everyone makes mistakes. Maybe grubby didnt even know that its illegal to do so by blizzards ToS? Ever consider that? this would hardly ruin the game. macros would not make you any better than you are already | ||
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Fleebenworth
463 Posts
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Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
On June 10 2011 01:19 RvB wrote: Yes, doing an ad for your sponsor to advertise a macro keyboard is seriously for someone without morale, go reread your posts and if you still don't see why you're debating in extreme's I am done talking to you anyway I'll stop derailing the thread. How is this derailing. This is the whole point of this thread. Grubby made a video to promote cheating. He would've been aware that it was cheating. He would've had a chance to turn it down. He did neither. People saying he had to do it are wrong, people saying its kosher are wrong. I dont see how promoting cheating and cheating are suddenly mutually exclusive. | ||
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Sverigevader
Sweden388 Posts
It's as if a hockey team would set up snipers mid game and shoot the gear off of the other teams goalie... | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On June 10 2011 01:18 TI83 wrote: Imagine some company was selling a maphack, and Grubby would do a video explaining why you should get it etc.. Would you say that Grubby is not responsible / not to blame ? That's the exact same situation. Is the maphack from a responsible, credible company who directly supports E-Sports and its players to provide years of entertainment, value and worth? | ||
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uSnAmplified
United States1029 Posts
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Sina92
Sweden1303 Posts
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DJFaqU
466 Posts
On June 10 2011 01:11 Kiante wrote: well hitler didn't drive the tanks into poland so i guess he shouldn't be responsible right? FUCK YEAH GODWIN'S LAW. Personally, I find the whole affair hilarious. Now unknowing people will buy the keyboard, use a bunch of macros and will eventually be banned by Blizzard for doing so. I don't see anything wrong with that, it's up to them to read the goddamn ToS and adhere to them. | ||
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Chinchillin
United States259 Posts
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