EPTGrubby promotes macro cheating? - Page 11
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Alver
United States177 Posts
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On June 10 2011 01:22 Kiante wrote: How is this derailing. This is the whole point of this thread. Grubby made a video to promote cheating. He would've been aware that it was cheating. He would've had a chance to turn it down. He did neither. People saying he had to do it are wrong, people saying its kosher are wrong. I dont see how promoting cheating and cheating are suddenly mutually exclusive. Please, leap to more conclusions. Also, please associate promoting a product for your sponsor is in any way comparable to throwing a game. You realize, Blizzard has one of these keyboards made specifically for Starcraft 2 as well right? It's not like the biggest deal, was it a stupid decision to promote this way by both SteelSeries and Grubby? Probably. Is it in any way comparable with cheating or match fixing? Fuck no, get your fanaticism out of here. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On June 10 2011 01:25 Chinchillin wrote: Nice slanderous title The title is the exact situation. Regardless of whether Blizzard does it too, Grubby is promoting a way to cheat in SC2. The counterarguments about Blizzard are just a red herring (although as I said before, Blizzard's actions are dubious as well.) | ||
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JLew
Canada353 Posts
On June 10 2011 01:17 Kiante wrote: How is this extreme? If he's shown he's capable of putting aside his morals for this, what is to stop him doing it for other things. Its pretty clear that grubby only cares about money and not about the integrity of the game. people saying this only affects lower league players a) dont really understand how much this could be exploited and b) dont realise that theres a whole mass of lower league players and this could potentially ruin the game. If you ahve an opponent on ladder using this they have a huge unfair advantage thats against the rules, and grubby is the one who took money to promote it. thats dirty as fuck lol this is almost as dramatic as the thread title. | ||
alda
France68 Posts
No matter how you see it, even in custom games vs friends, using macros is pure and simple cheating. Of course it's not new and these products exist for a long time and have already been advertized specifically for sc2 but that doesn't make it fine. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
But that's it. It just makes him look back, I don't really judge farther than that. | ||
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barkles
United States285 Posts
On June 10 2011 01:22 Kiante wrote: How is this derailing. This is the whole point of this thread. Grubby made a video to promote cheating. He would've been aware that it was cheating. He would've had a chance to turn it down. He did neither. People saying he had to do it are wrong, people saying its kosher are wrong. I dont see how promoting cheating and cheating are suddenly mutually exclusive. AGAIN I feel the need to tell you that you DO NOT KNOW WHETHER OR NOT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TURN THE COMMERCIAL DOWN without effectively ruining his career. Think before you post. | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
But the truth is : its not allowed in ANY tournament ANY ladder game ANY custom game, ANY sc2 game. | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
Also, I don't think the argue " You can use it if you are not in a tournament" This is bullshit, I surely don't want the guy that play against me on Bnet use something like this. Its just not fair, and take away alot of game. I am not going to buy anymore steelseries products in the future. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On June 10 2011 01:27 barkles wrote: AGAIN I feel the need to tell you that you DO NOT KNOW WHETHER OR NOT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TURN THE COMMERCIAL DOWN without effectively ruining his career. Think before you post. AND? If he has a sponsor that say: make ad for cheating or you loose your contract He ruining his career in the sec he agreed. You have allays a choice. its not like they pull out a gun and force him to do it. They gave him money and he decide on his own, with his free will, to take this money! | ||
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NIIINO
Slovakia1320 Posts
But No thank you razor, SS we dont really need macro keys in SC but nice try. | ||
Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
On June 10 2011 01:29 Torte de Lini wrote: Does Grubby even know this is cheating? Select didn't know that playing on other people's accounts to raise their ranks was illegal. did grubby install sc2? If he did he would've agreed to the TOS. For something as shady as this the responsibility is his to go back and check that it's allowed. | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On June 10 2011 01:25 Alver wrote: Wow is mainly a PvE feast, noone care what you do when you vs the Lich King or whatever. But when it comes to people vs people, I think guys in bronze would care alot if his opponent got some marco keyboard or not. | ||
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Nivoh
Norway259 Posts
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Merfyn
United Kingdom945 Posts
On June 10 2011 01:28 Caphe wrote: Poor move by Steelseries and Grubby. There are some of celebrity refuse to do commercial for companies that they think may mislead people. Also, I don't think the argue " You can use it if you are not in a tournament" This is bullshit, I surely don't want the guy that play against me on Bnet use something like this. Its just not fair, and take away alot of game. I am not going to buy anymore steelseries products in the future. who?  just wondering since im quite sure alot of people (celberitys included) would do alot for money. Take for example, the thread recently posted in General Forums, he sold his Kindey for $2000. Just saying, if you were offered alot of money to do very little, wouldnt you take it? | ||
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Sina92
Sweden1303 Posts
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Samhax
1054 Posts
On June 10 2011 01:25 Jibba wrote: The title is the exact situation. Regardless of whether Blizzard does it too, Grubby is promoting a way to cheat in SC2. The counterarguments about Blizzard are just a red herring (although as I said before, Blizzard's actions are dubious as well.) For me the right title would be Grubby promotes Keyboards with macro in sc2, is it right? Then we can discuss about macros in competitive play, casual play, the ToS, Blizzard, etc. This title is clearly unfair for him. | ||
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sharky246
1197 Posts
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EliteReplay
Dominican Republic913 Posts
this is against blizzard TOS. it woulnt seem right if they keep that commercial alive. they are suporting E-sports in some extend but with this one, is contradictory. | ||
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