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Halcyondaze
Profile Joined January 2011
United States509 Posts
June 06 2011 01:27 GMT
#21
Not really anything new, but only viable on rare occasions in my opinion. Not even something I would use as a High Masters toss in a Bo7
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
June 06 2011 01:28 GMT
#22
Why is it called GTLBaby?
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iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 01:39:49
June 06 2011 01:36 GMT
#23
I've played with this exact opening in Beta a lot and maybe early season 1, and follow this up with proxy stargate right by their ramp for lols, or an expo. It can work, but against good players you'll get punished for it... for me at least the higher I ranked up, the worse it worked, especially this people who saw this before
But seems like it worked for you vs rly good players, maybe it was my execution that was lacking
Crop circles are Chuck Norris' way of telling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the f*** down. rerereredit.. I never get it right the 1st time
Incarnite
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Macedonia117 Posts
June 06 2011 01:41 GMT
#24
On June 06 2011 10:27 Halcyondaze wrote:
Not really anything new, but only viable on rare occasions in my opinion. Not even something I would use as a High Masters toss in a Bo7


ur play is clearly not refined
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Mithrandir
Profile Joined March 2011
United States99 Posts
June 06 2011 01:48 GMT
#25
On June 06 2011 10:41 Incarnite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 10:27 Halcyondaze wrote:
Not really anything new, but only viable on rare occasions in my opinion. Not even something I would use as a High Masters toss in a Bo7


ur play is clearly not refined


Your thread could do with many more details and much less bm.
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
June 06 2011 01:50 GMT
#26
On June 06 2011 10:41 Incarnite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 10:27 Halcyondaze wrote:
Not really anything new, but only viable on rare occasions in my opinion. Not even something I would use as a High Masters toss in a Bo7


ur play is clearly not refined

Are you trying to start something?
headchopperz
Profile Joined March 2011
25 Posts
June 06 2011 01:51 GMT
#27
1 Question.

Why are you capitalizing CANINE and even mentioning it?
Terminator(471)
Profile Joined December 2010
United States243 Posts
June 06 2011 01:54 GMT
#28
Frankly, I am disappointed to see you post this build on TL. Here on TL, we learn to be better gamers. Not take wins that require little to no skill.
How I feel when I play the against Protoss deathball: This is the worst day of my life! "Homer: the worst day of your life so far"
Incarnite
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Macedonia117 Posts
June 06 2011 01:57 GMT
#29
On June 06 2011 10:50 Saracen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 10:41 Incarnite wrote:
On June 06 2011 10:27 Halcyondaze wrote:
Not really anything new, but only viable on rare occasions in my opinion. Not even something I would use as a High Masters toss in a Bo7


ur play is clearly not refined

Are you trying to start something?


No he just theorycrafted he wouldnt use it and dismissed it. I clearly used it in high level playw ith success, he's trolling my thread
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Carmine
Profile Joined September 2010
United States263 Posts
June 06 2011 01:59 GMT
#30
dis build is da bomb. I was silver nub but now am master pro. Thank u incarnite

Seriously though, I think that the threat of this kind of stuff is important because you can force early scouting and such and gain some small amount of advantage that way.

I like forcing things. I loved that protoss used to have to (may still do really) rush to stalker so that they can stop potential reaper in TvP.
Terran was created third, with purity of tanks.
Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
June 06 2011 02:00 GMT
#31
Do you really think it would work more than once against the same person?
arterian
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1157 Posts
June 06 2011 02:02 GMT
#32
On June 06 2011 11:00 Darkthorn wrote:
Do you really think it would work more than once against the same person?


that's the beauty of the metagame
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Incarnite
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Macedonia117 Posts
June 06 2011 02:02 GMT
#33
Do you think 6 pool would work more than once against someone? probably not but u put that fear into someone and can easily take a game off someone in a bo3
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Tsuki.eu
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1049 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 02:37:12
June 06 2011 02:35 GMT
#34
On June 06 2011 10:54 Terminator(471) wrote:
Frankly, I am disappointed to see you post this build on TL. Here on TL, we learn to be better gamers. Not take wins that require little to no skill.


some ppl still dont understand that in a BoX (hell even on ladder) its "all about" changing your game style. to throw your opponent off or to have god damn fun. being a better gamer also includes understanding the metagame.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4498 Posts
June 06 2011 02:45 GMT
#35
On June 06 2011 10:54 Terminator(471) wrote:
Frankly, I am disappointed to see you post this build on TL. Here on TL, we learn to be better gamers. Not take wins that require little to no skill.

How do you define what being a better gamer is? All this build is doing is introducing a fresh style of play which will most likely become obsolete in 2 weeks tops. However this adds to a gamers repertoire of builds & could help him greatly in a future series. In a way, it IS teaching him to be a better gamer. Just because this doesn't require much effort to perform doesn't mean you aren't learning anything/getting productivity from it.
hi. big fan.
NrG.YuY
Profile Joined November 2010
47 Posts
June 06 2011 02:49 GMT
#36
oh god this thing made a guide? LOL
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
June 06 2011 03:15 GMT
#37
Clearly a troll post. Your guide is basically "wall his ramp with a pylon and forge", and literally nothing else; no techniques, pictures to explain placement, etc....and then you name the build after yourself even though it's been done since day 1 of the beta. Wtf?
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Incarnite
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Macedonia117 Posts
June 06 2011 03:17 GMT
#38
I explain transitions, what to scout for and how to talk to zerg.
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sLiMpoweR
Profile Joined March 2009
United States430 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 03:31:07
June 06 2011 03:21 GMT
#39
ultimately.. its a build, its not a very good build but its useful none the less. And the reason i say its not a very good build is because while your perfecting your cannon cheeses other people will actually be getting good at playing the game.

It should be used purely in a series of games to throw off your opponent, but it would be incredibly dumb to base your entire foundation in pvz around a quirky cheesy build.
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SpyCee
Profile Joined May 2011
United States5 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 03:37:10
June 06 2011 03:36 GMT
#40
As a constructive criticism, it would be fantastic if you could add the following:


1. Actual list of transitions with replays
2. Discussion on what to do when the Zerg scouts you
3. Branching mid-game tree -- what strategies have you really blocked, what ones are still in play?
4. Discussion of viability in one-game versus BoX series


While this is by no means exhaustive, your so-called guide is almost useless without some of these things.

From a less-constructive standpoint, any strategy that involves "mind games" is probably not viable on a large scale. So when people are saying that this is not a technique to be a better gamer, they simply mean that mind games are not a viable long-term strategy. You shouldn't need to hide things, to tilt your opponent, to avoid scouting, etc etc. That's not what a "better gamer" does.
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