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nemo14
United States425 Posts
On June 06 2011 10:57 Incarnite wrote: No he just theorycrafted he wouldnt use it and dismissed it. I clearly used it in high level playw ith success, he's trolling my thread This man is obviously a lawyer or some such similar type of person well-versed in following the letters of laws. | ||
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cpomz
United States76 Posts
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drolkrad
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SCABC
3 Posts
On June 06 2011 10:57 Incarnite wrote: No he just theorycrafted he wouldnt use it and dismissed it. I clearly used it in high level playw ith success, he's trolling my thread *high level play* dot dot dot | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
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Duckvillelol
Australia1240 Posts
On June 06 2011 15:33 travis wrote: Aaaand what if the zerg just uses a spine crawler to kill your wall... ? In that first rep Catz attempted to do just that - pushed some creep up to the nat, placed the spine down, broke the pylon/forge - but by that time toss had already placed the "backup" cannon wall - 3 cannons and 2 pylons behind it. I guess that's the 'counter' to a spine :S | ||
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Th1rdEye
United States1074 Posts
"this game's ez" ... why haven't I heard of you? | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On June 06 2011 15:41 Duckvillelol wrote: In that first rep Catz attempted to do just that - pushed some creep up to the nat, placed the spine down, broke the pylon/forge - but by that time toss had already placed the "backup" cannon wall - 3 cannons and 2 pylons behind it. I guess that's the 'counter' to a spine :S well now i gotta watch the rep lol | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
as for why it beat catz, it's because you caught him with his pants down with your air play. you can attribute that partially to the opener screwing up his flow, and partially to him being risky. I do like the stargate followup to this. im not really trying to diss on it, I think it's a fine opener, I just think zergs are going to complain about it when their complaints are laughably unjustified. they should just get a spine crawler to break the front of the wall while droning up, then get 7-9 roaches and kill the cannons. | ||
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MarkIV
12 Posts
If protoss could get the same economy and units as zerg in a standard opening I'd agree with this statement. Instead it's more trying to hold vs the zerg until you hit 200, when the zerg did it 4 minutes ago. | ||
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Incarnite
Macedonia117 Posts
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Incarnite
Macedonia117 Posts
On June 06 2011 18:58 MarkIV wrote: "You shouldn't need to hide things, to tilt your opponent, to avoid scouting, etc etc. That's not what a "better gamer" does." If protoss could get the same economy and units as zerg in a standard opening I'd agree with this statement. Instead it's more trying to hold vs the zerg until you hit 200, when the zerg did it 4 minutes ago. I must ask you, are you making things up for attention? What's the whole point of denying scouts? To hide things. Now imagine they scout you and think they have the whole picture. This is a strategy game, if you u want to do predictable builds that are "safe" and "standard" then by all means go ahead. I like to switch my play up and keep people on their toes. I play to win the game, whether through it's macro or early aggression. If you want to 1a your 200/200 army into my 200/200 army maybe SimCity2000 is better game for you, but be make sure to disable natural disasters so you can macro up. I don't advocate not scouting that's why I encourage pylon walking and even stealing a gas to delay their straight to lair tech. Furthermore, I explain transitions to every possible build they can do. Even if you decide against stargate you can ALWAYS 3 gate FE after this and be miles ahead of the zerg as you do 5-6 gate + 1 robo timing push. His econ won't be able to handle that after spending tons on crawlers/roaches to bust down the wall. | ||
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shizna
United Kingdom803 Posts
note that catz's first overlord was inches away from spotting your probe. a slightly modified ovie path would force probe to take a detour and delay the wall. i'm wondering whether zerg can pull drones to block the forge, and kill cannons before they spawn... at least holding on long enough for lings. similar to deflecting bunker in TvZ. i think if this contain fails then it would be impossible to hold off a ling all-in counterattack. | ||
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jhk0219
United States189 Posts
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theBIGdog
United States41 Posts
User was temp banned from strategy forum for this post. | ||
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vijeze
Netherlands719 Posts
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Aterons_toss
Romania1275 Posts
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Ignorant prodigy
United States385 Posts
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Incarnite
Macedonia117 Posts
On June 07 2011 00:39 theBIGdog wrote: This thread should be closed. BM cheeser just calling his cheese flavor of the week style. I bet he loses to gold leaguers in standard games so he had to come up with new ways of cannon rushing. From your tone it seems like you use dog race. But I will entertain you with some facts. Look at my match history - GTLBaby.327 and notice that in my 1v1s I consistently play GMs and probably beat them at a 70% clip. I don't believe in letting people play the game THEY want to play, I like them to play the game I want to play. I know I'm not going to outmacro a zerg because in the current metagame, infestor, bling, ling is way too cost effective vs any protoss composition and even when you manage to beat it, the roach remax will just break your army. Until Blizzard fixes this I'm finding clever ways to beat Zerg - a lot of which I would not like to discuss right now, but be assured they work at the GM level. | ||
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