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Incarnite
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Macedonia117 Posts
June 06 2011 17:20 GMT
#61
On June 07 2011 02:03 Aterons_toss wrote:
Am i the only idiot who doesn't get the CANINE thingy ?


Canine is a euphemism for dog.
One mans penis in another womans vagina
tehemperorer
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2183 Posts
June 06 2011 17:22 GMT
#62
On June 07 2011 02:15 Incarnite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 00:39 theBIGdog wrote:
This thread should be closed. BM cheeser just calling his cheese flavor of the week style. I bet he loses to gold leaguers in standard games so he had to come up with new ways of cannon rushing.


From your tone it seems like you use dog race. But I will entertain you with some facts. Look at my match history - GTLBaby.327 and notice that in my 1v1s I consistently play GMs and probably beat them at a 70% clip. I don't believe in letting people play the game THEY want to play, I like them to play the game I want to play. I know I'm not going to outmacro a zerg because in the current metagame, infestor, bling, ling is way too cost effective vs any protoss composition and even when you manage to beat it, the roach remax will just break your army. Until Blizzard fixes this I'm finding clever ways to beat Zerg - a lot of which I would not like to discuss right now, but be assured they work at the GM level.

I know you think you're good, but you're probably only Avilo good Yeah you get wins in ladder, but seriously, don't you think the maps used in tournament play have accounted for this? Ladder is a rough estimate of your skill, the only true testament are tourney/league wins. Not really a good guide imo, you could have just said "10forge pylon block then transition to whatever" and people would have known what you're talking about. Pride's 2rax guide had more substance.
Knowing is half the battle... the other half is lasers.
Incarnite
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Macedonia117 Posts
June 06 2011 17:26 GMT
#63
On June 07 2011 02:22 tehemperorer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 02:15 Incarnite wrote:
On June 07 2011 00:39 theBIGdog wrote:
This thread should be closed. BM cheeser just calling his cheese flavor of the week style. I bet he loses to gold leaguers in standard games so he had to come up with new ways of cannon rushing.


From your tone it seems like you use dog race. But I will entertain you with some facts. Look at my match history - GTLBaby.327 and notice that in my 1v1s I consistently play GMs and probably beat them at a 70% clip. I don't believe in letting people play the game THEY want to play, I like them to play the game I want to play. I know I'm not going to outmacro a zerg because in the current metagame, infestor, bling, ling is way too cost effective vs any protoss composition and even when you manage to beat it, the roach remax will just break your army. Until Blizzard fixes this I'm finding clever ways to beat Zerg - a lot of which I would not like to discuss right now, but be assured they work at the GM level.

I know you think you're good, but you're probably only Avilo good Yeah you get wins in ladder, but seriously, don't you think the maps used in tournament play have accounted for this? Ladder is a rough estimate of your skill, the only true testament are tourney/league wins. Not really a good guide imo, you could have just said "10forge pylon block then transition to whatever" and people would have known what you're talking about. Pride's 2rax guide had more substance.



Not a guide, a discussion. I want to discuss more ways of punishing greedy zergs and more effective ways of keeping the dog babys on one base
One mans penis in another womans vagina
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
June 06 2011 17:26 GMT
#64
the replays do not work
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iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
June 06 2011 17:29 GMT
#65
On June 07 2011 02:15 Incarnite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 00:39 theBIGdog wrote:
This thread should be closed. BM cheeser just calling his cheese flavor of the week style. I bet he loses to gold leaguers in standard games so he had to come up with new ways of cannon rushing.


From your name it seems like you use dog race..


fixed

That said, this thread is already in danger of being closed without the replay links being broken. So please fix them!
During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. -Bisu[Shield]
tehemperorer
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2183 Posts
June 06 2011 17:31 GMT
#66
On June 07 2011 02:26 Incarnite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 02:22 tehemperorer wrote:
On June 07 2011 02:15 Incarnite wrote:
On June 07 2011 00:39 theBIGdog wrote:
This thread should be closed. BM cheeser just calling his cheese flavor of the week style. I bet he loses to gold leaguers in standard games so he had to come up with new ways of cannon rushing.


From your tone it seems like you use dog race. But I will entertain you with some facts. Look at my match history - GTLBaby.327 and notice that in my 1v1s I consistently play GMs and probably beat them at a 70% clip. I don't believe in letting people play the game THEY want to play, I like them to play the game I want to play. I know I'm not going to outmacro a zerg because in the current metagame, infestor, bling, ling is way too cost effective vs any protoss composition and even when you manage to beat it, the roach remax will just break your army. Until Blizzard fixes this I'm finding clever ways to beat Zerg - a lot of which I would not like to discuss right now, but be assured they work at the GM level.

I know you think you're good, but you're probably only Avilo good Yeah you get wins in ladder, but seriously, don't you think the maps used in tournament play have accounted for this? Ladder is a rough estimate of your skill, the only true testament are tourney/league wins. Not really a good guide imo, you could have just said "10forge pylon block then transition to whatever" and people would have known what you're talking about. Pride's 2rax guide had more substance.



Not a guide, a discussion. I want to discuss more ways of punishing greedy zergs and more effective ways of keeping the dog babys on one base

I get it but I guess I just don't understand how deep you can actually take a discussion if the subject is cannon rushing, since the transition is what is important but can be essentially any topic. After successfully cannon rushing you can pretty much do anything because you've already put yourself into a winning position imo
Knowing is half the battle... the other half is lasers.
Incarnite
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Macedonia117 Posts
June 06 2011 17:32 GMT
#67
z33k is down, what u want me to do
One mans penis in another womans vagina
TibblesEvilCat
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom766 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 17:41:41
June 06 2011 17:37 GMT
#68
wasn't the correct cheap response was 6 lings and queen to attack if it's a cannon contain, or 2-3 crawlers with an in-base hatch for macroing?

i mean if you get pylon blocked i would go find a 3rd that is easy reach or get a spawning pool and a gas then bust down and exspand, generally if you don't panic or force yourself into a x build then i don't see this an issue.

what are the numbers on a baneling bust vs protoss?
Live Fast Die Young :D
terr13
Profile Joined April 2007
United States298 Posts
June 06 2011 17:58 GMT
#69
If they see only 1 pylon go down, why wouldn't they send drones to attack it, and have 1-2 drones on your probe?
RHMVNovus
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
June 06 2011 20:16 GMT
#70
On June 07 2011 02:32 Incarnite wrote:
z33k is down, what u want me to do


Host them somewhere else, probably.
Droning his sorrows in massive amounts of macro
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
June 06 2011 20:24 GMT
#71
So there is only 1 pylon going down and then you build a forge to block off the ramp...Wouldnt a zerg just uhh block the forge with drones? Zergs first built overlord usually goes to the ramp to watch for this sort of thing, am i misunderstanding something?
TolEranceNA
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada434 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 20:36:10
June 06 2011 20:35 GMT
#72
It works definitely, so does 6 pool. So basically i don't see alot of revolutionary or new things coming out of this.

EDIT: Mods should close this IMO
Arotsis:"Nestea, what do you think about Zerg?" Nestea:"...Sad."
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
June 06 2011 20:39 GMT
#73
Can you get enough defense at home in time to block a 1base 2hatch hydra (or roach) + speedling doom drop? You get hit pretty hard at the ~8 minute mark if they snapcall the fast lair + inbase hatch off of 1base in response to your wallin.

Also, doesn't this fail on pretty much ANY tournament map, with the doodads/depots on the bottom of the ramp?
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
June 06 2011 20:48 GMT
#74
On June 07 2011 00:39 theBIGdog wrote:
This thread should be closed. BM cheeser just calling his cheese flavor of the week style. I bet he loses to gold leaguers in standard games so he had to come up with new ways of cannon rushing.

User was temp banned from strategy forum for this post.


banned on your birthday, pretty funny
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
June 06 2011 23:31 GMT
#75
So I've left this open for a day. I've gotten numerous requests to close the thread compared to how many requests I got to leave it open. Your find and replace every instance of "dog" with "CANINE" instead of just deleting every instance of "dog" doesn't do anything to fix the thread. Unless you spend all of your time laddering, this strategy doesn't even work since you're going to be using MLG/GSL maps, not blizzard maps, for customs/tournaments/practice/etc (you might as well write about how Terran can abuse close spawns for LT/Meta). But most of all, no compelling discussion has come out of this thread. The most that has come out of it is you saying "let's talk about how to keep Zerg on one base." So yeah, I'm closing this.
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