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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
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garlicface
Canada4196 Posts
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
Here's a light example of something I had come across a while ago (I want a mod to look at this and delete this post if its too much, yeah its not for the faint of heart, shoulda seen me when I watched the entire video). + Show Spoiler + So you had this lady, tied to a bed getting raped. They thought that it'd be really interesting to cut off a few body parts as they raped her. I think it was over the course of a few days that they did this before she finally died. I think at some point they must've done something horrible to her eye because they bandaged her up heavily so she wouldn't die too soon. But the segment that was pretty interesting was when they cut off her feet. Can't quite remember and i honestly don't want to rewatch the video, but I recall them cutting off her right foot while she was conscious and she passed out. While she was passed out they continued to rape her and cut off her left foot, which she woke up to a few minutes later. It was very surreal, because when people actually die, they don't actually die like they do in the movies. There's this other video where they threw a live cow into a this massive grinding machine, and the cow was grinded alive. It gave off a hopeless and really sad moo, the girl gave off the same sort of cry. When he cut off foot it was like a butcher cutting up a pigs leg, tons of blood... and they stopped the bleeding in an almost comedic sinister way... She died after they shredded her tongue. she died slowly and painfully That wasn't even part of the deep web when I first saw it, but no doubt it originated from the deep web. Just like the videos of the hammer kids in Russia, these videos have been floating around in the deep web for a looooooong time. | ||
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Shindo
United States22 Posts
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Reborn8u
United States1761 Posts
On June 03 2011 13:39 Taf the Ghost wrote: This sounds FAR more cloak and dagger than it really is. As I've had Top Site access a few times in the past, let me dispel a few things. The numbers are way off. There's Zottabyte range data on the internet ( for a little more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exabyte ). The number they were trying to pump up was the "stored" data, which is pretty big on the "Deep Web" but not as big compared to the normal web as you think. Though YouTube itself is dealing in far more total bandwidth usage than just static server storage. I wouldn't be surprised if YouTube is servering 250 Petabytes a month at this point in bandwidth. They're using big numbers of *stored* data vs used data. Most of this stuff is just stored on a server with maybe a few people a month accessing it. Just think how much bandwidth YouTube has used to serve a Justin Beiber song with 300+ million views. That's a whole lot of bandwidth, but it's really only a 30 meg file. A lot of this stuff is also very easy to get to, assuming you know to skip trying to find it with Google. Most of this stuff is in a few areas: IRC channels, Private Hamachi networks, DirectConnect (or whatever the newest flavor of server-connected P2P client is), private Websites with independent Torrent servers, Open-Protocol P2P networks, Private FTP networks and on VPNs. (I've also heard there's still an active trading regime on UseNet, but I haven't been on there in ages) Most of the information isn't necessarily illegal either. A lot of it is, but not as much as you think. Most of the data being moved around the "Deep Web" is video & image content. A lot of it is porn. But that shouldn't surprise anyone, now should it? There's private file trading networks for whatever your flavor of content is. I was in the Anime side of things, so there were a lot of servers you moved around data to host for sharing it. There's rented servers all over the place serving this data to whatever system you're supporting. TOR is a Firefox mod that uses multiple server-hopping technology to avoid detection. It was designed for Chinese dissidents at first, but it's morphed into simply being a way to hide on the internet. Mostly because the only people that can really track you back through TOR, if they want, is the Chinese or NSA. So you don't want to piss off either of those, really. In a slightly ironic twist, most of the active sections of this got started because of MIT. For a long while, MIT had about the world's largest on-site internet pipe. The CS students figured out fun ways of using it. It pretty much made Video work in IRC, which started off all of the video sharing of large files. This also hit around the same time as large numbers of people had access to Broadband, which made most of it possible. The really, really "deep" places exist in 2 forms. There are "Top sites" and then there's the Kiddy Porn areas. The Kiddy Porn areas are actually very easy to avoid... because you have to work really hard to find them. And fuck every single person involved in those rings. Really, I hope they rot in hell. You'll only ever find your way there if you're looking for them. And if you are, please turn yourself into the cops or get professional help... now. The "Top Sites" are the more interesting bit in all of this. I'm not sure what protocols they're using at the moment, but it's most likely still nearly all FTPs. These are very large networks of stored data. They've got massive pipes and are well funded, though mostly by donation. This is where things like CAM'd movies, brand new DVDrips and the like type of data work their way around. After they've moved through the Top Sites, they end up in IRC channels & on Torrent trackers. Top Sites are effectively how the "Scene" gets out their data. It's pretty effective at doing it. So, you've likely interacted with these types of "Deep Web" stuff already. If you're on a forum with an internal, required-registration section that links to Torrents, you're in the "Deep Web". Or if your College or Business has a private network for data... you're on the Deep Web. It's not as cloak & dagger as the initial post wants to make out, but it is there. But, if you want certain data, there's a good chance it *does* exist somewhere. If the "Top Sites" are where the most of the torrent files are originating, than those people could set up huge bot networks. | ||
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Z3kk
4099 Posts
Interesting read, however. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On June 03 2011 13:52 Z3kk wrote: ...okay I'm quitting it now. Not worth the risk, and I'm not particularly good with CS/code/staying safe/whatnot. Interesting read, however. Unless you want drugs or illict porn or need to escape from a political prison, TOR doesn't have a lot of use for you. But it can allow you to get out of a heavily locked down internet connection. | ||
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Z3kk
4099 Posts
On June 03 2011 13:55 Taf the Ghost wrote: Unless you want drugs or illict porn or need to escape from a political prison, TOR doesn't have a lot of use for you. But it can allow you to get out of a heavily locked down internet connection. Ah, I see. Still an engrossing topic and quite cool to have learned, I suppose! My internet connection is fine and I have no need for any of the above, so I'll remain in the shallow end of the pool. | ||
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tube
United States1475 Posts
seemed like it would take some work to get to the actually interesting stuff so i lost interest | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On June 03 2011 13:45 Taf the Ghost wrote: On a cheap laptop you paid with live cash on an unregistered seller. And use it on an open public wifi. While wearing a hood over your face. I should add, if you're seriously going to want to go the TOR-internet way... do it from a custom-compiled Linux install. It's for your own safety. You've been warned.  | ||
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Dagobert
Netherlands1858 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On June 03 2011 14:03 VIB wrote: On a cheap laptop you paid with live cash on an unregistered seller. And use it on an open public wifi. While wearing a hood over your face. Most of it isn't that bad, at least, to my knowledge. You'll find mostly insane conspiracy theories. But that's not a bad idea if you're trying to find something "interesting". | ||
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H
New Zealand6138 Posts
- It's plainly obvious most of the shit in the OP is completely made up. I'm closing this thread on the basis of the fact the discussion it is spawning is ridiculously sensationalist and mostly untrue. If you really want a topic about it, make one that doesn't have shit like "WIKILEAKS HAS NOTHING ON THE DEEP WEB" in the OP. | ||
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