EPTWork out, dress well, and just say 'hello'.
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TheGiz
Canada708 Posts
Work out, dress well, and just say 'hello'. | ||
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whiteLotus
1833 Posts
On July 19 2011 03:52 TheGiz wrote: This thread is seriously depressing. Work out, dress well, and just say 'hello'. yeah and then be silent for 30mins till she says that she has something important to do lol, you gotta learn how to talk, what are they interested in, you cant be just like "hello, my name is derp i play sc2 im at diamond, and i listen to dubstep" lol | ||
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Jokithedruid
Sweden74 Posts
On July 19 2011 04:45 whiteLotus wrote: yeah and then be silent for 30mins till she says that she has something important to do lol, you gotta learn how to talk, what are they interested in, you cant be just like "hello, my name is derp i play sc2 im at diamond, and i listen to dubstep" lol Oh yes you can, trust me. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On July 19 2011 04:45 whiteLotus wrote: yeah and then be silent for 30mins till she says that she has something important to do lol, you gotta learn how to talk, what are they interested in, you cant be just like "hello, my name is derp i play sc2 im at diamond, and i listen to dubstep" lol You can "learn how to talk" OR you can just say whatever the fuck you want to say or feel like saying at any point in time. What makes option one better than option two? I know I'm much more comfortable with option two. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
On July 19 2011 02:03 Talin wrote: Sometimes I wish I was born in the 70s. This whole new millennium isn't really working out for me. People seem to be getting increasingly weirder and weirder by the day. At this rate I'm not sure I would want to have a social life in like 10 years. I'm with you buddy. I'm not sure if I hate people, or if people hate me. >_> | ||
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squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
On July 19 2011 03:52 TheGiz wrote: This thread is seriously depressing. Work out, dress well, and just say 'hello'. I have the body of Thor, and I dress nothing but True Religions and Ferragamos, and I can say hello to every girl out there and more. Then how come I can't pick up every girl I talk to? You apparently know some magic that none of us know right? | ||
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TOloseGT
United States1145 Posts
On July 19 2011 06:07 squattincassanova wrote: I have the body of Thor, and I dress nothing but True Religions and Ferragamos, and I can say hello to every girl out there and more. Then come come I can't pick up every girl I talk to? You apparently know some magic that none of us know right? This is true. I said hello to the girl working behind the counter, she didn't rip her clothes off. | ||
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squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
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Discretionary Duck
148 Posts
On July 19 2011 05:08 Talin wrote: You can "learn how to talk" OR you can just say whatever the fuck you want to say or feel like saying at any point in time. What makes option one better than option two? I know I'm much more comfortable with option two. Part of PUA training is reconditioning what we've been taught to say in the appropriate situations (e.g. being nice and polite), rather than saying whatever the fuck you feel like saying. Imagine two men, one a beta with low dating market value and the other an alpha with high dating market value. By dating market value, I am referring to the aggregate of traits the men possess which either move them closer or further away from the general attractiveness standards. Some of these traits are beyond their power to remedy, such as stature and looks, while other traits, like humor and charm, reside in the gray area of innate attributes that are somewhat changeable through deliberate effort. Their respective suite of traits means that Beta is attractive to 1 out of 1,000 women and Alpha is attractive to 1 out of 10 women. (The absolute number values are not important in this example; what matters is the relative disparity.) If both go to a club that has 100 women in attendance, 10 of those women will be attracted to Alpha while Beta would be lucky if his 1 out of 1,000 woman is even there. If Beta and Alpha begin their careers of hitting on women it’s likely that Alpha would have banged 100 women before Beta even lost his virginity. Over time, the repeated failures of Beta and the repeated successes of Alpha would mount. Both may have started their journeys to poon wide-eyed with optimism and hope, but after a few years it’s easy to picture what kinds of attitudes each would develop as a consequence of his dating market value. Alpha would embrace dating; he would see it as a playground full of excitement and fun and adventure and joy. Beta would dread the dating scene; he’d go to every date with a feeling of frustration, expecting the rejection that he had become accustomed to experiencing. Success breeds success. A surfeit of pussy means Alpha would acquire discriminating taste in women. He would learn how to screen for what he wants and how to qualify women for the values he looks for in a mate. This, of course, would make him even more attractive to women. But poor Beta… he’d take what he could get. Beggars can’t be choosers. After many years of their divergent paths, Alpha would achieve great knowledge in the ways of women and romance while Beta would know next to nothing. What do the unsympathetic beta-haters think would result from this illustration I’ve laid out? It’s simple. Alpha would be a very happy dude and Beta would be embittered. So for those whose advice to a loser in love is to “just be himself” around women remember that that is exactly what brought him to his miserable condition. | ||
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Discretionary Duck
148 Posts
On July 19 2011 06:40 squattincassanova wrote: my workout stack No-one gives a shit about your subtle brags. | ||
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TOloseGT
United States1145 Posts
On July 19 2011 07:03 Discretionary Duck wrote: No-one gives a shit about your subtle brags. Don't talk shit about his fruit and veggie bears. | ||
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BadWolf0
United States300 Posts
The alpha male thing is true, as is the attractive power of just pure self-confidence. Many people figure this out as they grow up, others don't. My problem with PUA is that a lot of these people make the discovery of what self-confidence does for them and then stop their self-development as soon as it gets them laid. The initial good idea is transformed into building a repertoire of tricks and lines and situations. Fuck being a pick-up artist I'm a self-confident dude who doesn't look like a model but I can talk to anyone and usually get anyone I want (currently dating for the first time after years of being opposed to it it's fun!) The point I want to make is instead of subscribing to a 'movement' or whatever just develop your self-worth in all areas and you can reap the same benefits. Talk to anyone and force yourself not to care what happens! Push yourself out in public! Learn basic self-care and how to present yourself well! Practice bluntness and being able to say what you mean and not prevaricate/supplicate. And don't only do it to get laid! Do it everywhere. I hate wishy-washy people at interviews/work/everywhere. The same guy who gets constantly friend-zoned is the guy who gets consistently passed up for a promotion cause he does good work in the background and is too scared to draw attention to himself. If it takes PUA to get to that then fuckin go for it and don't let anyone's opinion change yours but use it as it is: a mean to an end. - Just my opinion, don't take my limited (albeit real) experience with the community as an attack on the whole, these are just my thoughts based on my life/my friends life/ my experience as my friend forced me to watch all his videos and meet his friends. | ||
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aebriol
Norway2066 Posts
If you work on something, you will get better at it. At least, most of us will. Whether you want to hire a coach to teach you starcraft 2, go to dance class to dance, a teacher to help you improve in school, an author to join his/her writers group, or pay for a course in picking up girls, or obsess about programming, or do 3d modelling, or ... whatever ... is up to you ... I just find it funny that it's debatable at all. To me it seems kind of obvious: if you are seriously working on something, then you really should improve unless you are completely inept. Some people don't have to work as much on shit to get good at it, but if you want to improve on something ... then work on it. ... and not everyone have the same goal in life. If your goal is to save yourself for marriage with your one true love, you probably shouldn't need to work on this, and if your goal is to never marry, but have casual sex with as many people as possible, you probably should ... | ||
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squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
On July 19 2011 07:03 Discretionary Duck wrote: No-one gives a shit about your subtle brags. my mom does | ||
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
On July 19 2011 06:07 squattincassanova wrote: I have the body of Thor, and I dress nothing but True Religions and Ferragamos, and I can say hello to every girl out there and more. Then how come I can't pick up every girl I talk to? You apparently know some magic that none of us know right? Not everyone is equally impressed by at least two of the three things you just named. I actually had to google what they are, and I do perfectly fine. I have no problem with the PUA thing, and some of it has some value, but you have to realize that you are targetting a very specific demographic: girls that like to get picked up in clubs. You're essentially 'dating' your female mirrors. That's cool tho, because most of us do, and I can't actually say I've ever met any girl I've been serious with in a club. | ||
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squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
On July 19 2011 07:41 Derez wrote: Not everyone is equally impressed by at least two of the three things you just named. I actually had to google what they are, and I do perfectly fine. I have no problem with the PUA thing, and some of it has some value, but you have to realize that you are targetting a very specific demographic: girls that like to get picked up in clubs. You're essentially 'dating' your female mirrors. That's cool tho, because most of us do, and I can't actually say I've ever met any girl I've been serious with in a club. Not trying to impress, I was disagreeing with the person I quoted. Basically explaining his comment was over simplifying things and that it takes more than just those 3 things to be successful. The club is more diverse than you think. A lot of college students and successful business women go clubbing on occasions. Just gotta screen. I met a few law and dental students in clubs. Don't forget the club is for practice, nothing more, its not about finding the perfect girl to marry. And if you can handle a high status, high ADD club girl, you really think its hard to handle talking to a girl from a social circle where someone introduces her to you? No competition, no loud noise, no distractions, no bitch shield. Plus. I'm diversified enough I can talk about any area with proficiency. If its engineering/biology its my education background. If its history or English, I talk about books I have read or places I have traveled. If its a super fit girl, I talk about cycling and bodybuilding. If its a gamer chick, I can talk about too many things. I made out with a girl who had a lvl 85 WoW character on Friday. Kinda weird as fuck, you can never tell these chicks are random as hell. If its a girl who is into acting or comedy, I talk about my improv comedy classes. It really doesn't matter who I meet. To be honest, if I could find a girl who can mirror me in stats, I would marry her right now lmao. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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KoveN-
Australia504 Posts
1. Commit to a 90 day workout routine. Something like P90X for instance (google it). 2. Sign up for every single speed dating & singles event in your city for the next year. Tick yes to every single girl and once you get the results back write down why each particular girl might not have said yes to you and why. (this will increase your attractiveness and conversation skill over time.) 3. Sign up for www.couchsurfers.com and offer your couch to backpackers. I had 2 20 year old french girls stay with me for a week. 4. Get a subscription to a mens fashion magazine (like GQ etc.) 5. Start playing a physical team sport. Guys that play team sports are very good with girls for a reason. 6. Join a dance community. Ballroom, jive, swing, pretty much anything. (to meet girls and get comfortable touching them and being intimate. Something that is SO important and that 'club game' will not teach you.) 7. Find 3-5 real naturals and hang out with them. Do whatever it takes to becomes friends with them, wash their car, buy them dinner, whatever. They will pretty much hand you free pussy. There you go. Fucking easy. The problem is most guys will see this list and go "uhhhh that's so hard, why can't I just go online to an internet forum and ask other nerds how to get girls then go out to the club 7 nights a week and get rejected a thousand times? Now that'll make me good with women!!" The problem with the pickup community is the guys in it don't actually want to get laid, they want validation from women. I've met about 30-40 guys from the pickup community and this runs true for all of them. Offer one of these guys free pussy and they will turn it down or make excuses because they didn't "earn it" or someshit. They go out, night after night, using their routines and other techniques and tricks, try to one-up each other for a feeling of superiority so that they can feel good about themselves, which never ends up working. It's an endless, self-destructive cycle. After a year or so though they usually figure out what's happening and get out of it altogether. The problem with 'community PUA' guys is that they go out, night after night to clubs in order to learn how to be good with women. The inherent problem with this is that it's VERY, VERY hard to pickup a girl in a club like environment. In fact it's almost impossible for a guy who is hopeless with women to pickup in these venues, yet that's where they start and fail over and over again. (they call it the pain peroid...) I personally can't see why it's acceptable for there to be a 'pain period' to sleep with women. I myself never experienced such a thing and I was terrible with women for a time. I did these things in that list and now my life is 100x better, I have a beautiful girlfriend and I can keep her around because I didn't need to compromise who I was to get her into bed. You see in that list I gave you can be 100% yourself and have absolutely no game at all and still get laid alot. Sure the PUA community has a few things that might be useful, but it's few and far between. If you wanna be truly awesome, you have to put in the hard yards. | ||
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Gifted.TempO
United States7 Posts
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squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
On July 19 2011 15:24 Gifted.TempO wrote: I lawl every time this thread is bumped. The community IMO is not that great. It's best to get into with maybe a friend or two. The important part of PUA is realizing that canned material and spouting lines and come-ons at a moment's notice is terrible execution of seduction fundamentals. Confidence is key and if you just learn how to be confident, funny. and unpredictable you will be fine. I highly suggest reading The Attraction Code by Vin DiCarlo. It's the best literature I've read on the subject of pick-up and will give you a more realistic view on relationships with not just your latest fling. but with everyone. Cheers. Vin DiCarlo is crap. All marketing BS. Nobody good uses canned openers. They are pure training wheels only. I have never used a single canned opener in my life. | ||
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