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Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
December 14 2004 08:54 GMT
#41
Hoho, I really hope they make it and when they do, I'll be there on the first day to watch it
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
December 14 2004 09:07 GMT
#42
On December 13 2004 18:10 BroOd wrote:
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On December 13 2004 05:26 Servolisk wrote:
I've already seen a trailer for it a long time ago.

If he makes the Hobbit I won't make the mistake of seeing it like I did with the lord of the rings. I really liked the books but he did a horrible job. It makes me sick to hear his fellow writers say how they improved Tolkien's writing. Atleast one of them did anyway. I didn't think he would do lotr justice (injustice as I now think), but I thought I'll go see the movie and I might be surprised, and if it is bad it is no big deal. But it is a big deal to me because now when I am picturing something from the books all I can see is Peter Jackson's mass marketed movie.


I guess you weren't really paying attention during the movies, seeing as the "trailer" for The Hobbit is just scenes from the films editted together by a fan, with the song used in the trailer for
TTT.


I realized that was what it mostly was, but there were additions, so I guess you weren't paying attention or saw a different trailer. Smog definitely wasn't in the movies.

Ok, so the films didn't pander to your notions of the importance of certain elements, I'm deeply sorry for your loss. I don't think you can fully conceive how much Peter Jackson staked his career on a hunch with these films. He convinced a studio to do something that had never been done before, and to invest such an enormous ammount of money in a relatively unproven director and unfinished scripts speaks volumes about his dedication. A director looking to make a blockbuster gets $80M to make Bad Boys II, not $300M to adapt a piece of fantasy literature.


No need for your sarcasm. Is that really the best you can say for him? He got people to invest in his film? Really I don't care how hard it was, and I doubt many people care about that aspect either.
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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
December 14 2004 09:12 GMT
#43
He left out Gandalf's encounter with The Mouth of Sauron. Blasphemer!!!!!
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Telemako
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Spain1636 Posts
December 15 2004 07:48 GMT
#44
The Hobbit is a tale for kids, but I love it! Well, the forest part is boring but from Smaug till the end it is awesome.

I will love to see the movie of Turin Turambar, or Beren and Luthien from Silmarillion.
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Jim
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden1965 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-15 08:00:35
December 15 2004 08:00 GMT
#45
I dont really like the Lord of the Rings. The story is way to linear. The hobbit is the same. Peter Jacksons movie is better than the book but if the script is too lousy even the best of directors will fail(not saying that Peter Jackson is that great but he did quite well with this script).

Hollywood should look into more dynamic books with people who actually have some feelings. George Martin with a Song of Ice and Fire is an excellent example.

ps. If you know any good writers who write fantasy please post.
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racebannon
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada1225 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-15 08:13:19
December 15 2004 08:12 GMT
#46
On December 15 2004 17:00 Jim wrote:
I dont really like the Lord of the Rings. The story is way to linear. The hobbit is the same. Peter Jacksons movie is better than the book but if the script is too lousy even the best of directors will fail(not saying that Peter Jackson is that great but he did quite well with this script).

Hollywood should look into more dynamic books with people who actually have some feelings. George Martin with a Song of Ice and Fire is an excellent example.

ps. If you know any good writers who write fantasy please post.

I'd support it but i sincerely doubt an Ice and Fire movie or series of movies would come close to capturing the perfection that the books possess

the fantasy genre is pretty laden with crap unfortunately. You won't find anything near as good as Song of Ice and Fire, and the distant seconds are talentless hacks who make it readily apparent as their respective series progress (terry pratchett, that fuckbrain who writes about rand althor or whoever)

your best bet is to just re-read Ice and Fire and pray George Martin actually gets the rest of the books out
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cava
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States1035 Posts
December 15 2004 08:40 GMT
#47
On December 15 2004 17:00 Jim wrote:
I dont really like the Lord of the Rings. The story is way to linear. The hobbit is the same. Peter Jacksons movie is better than the book but if the script is too lousy even the best of directors will fail(not saying that Peter Jackson is that great but he did quite well with this script).

Hollywood should look into more dynamic books with people who actually have some feelings. George Martin with a Song of Ice and Fire is an excellent example.

ps. If you know any good writers who write fantasy please post.



The lord of the rings story is...... linear? If by linear you mean the most thought out, developed, compelling story ever then yes it is.
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27156 Posts
December 15 2004 08:43 GMT
#48
On December 15 2004 17:12 racebannon wrote:
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On December 15 2004 17:00 Jim wrote:
I dont really like the Lord of the Rings. The story is way to linear. The hobbit is the same. Peter Jacksons movie is better than the book but if the script is too lousy even the best of directors will fail(not saying that Peter Jackson is that great but he did quite well with this script).

Hollywood should look into more dynamic books with people who actually have some feelings. George Martin with a Song of Ice and Fire is an excellent example.

ps. If you know any good writers who write fantasy please post.

I'd support it but i sincerely doubt an Ice and Fire movie or series of movies would come close to capturing the perfection that the books possess

the fantasy genre is pretty laden with crap unfortunately. You won't find anything near as good as Song of Ice and Fire, and the distant seconds are talentless hacks who make it readily apparent as their respective series progress (terry pratchett, that fuckbrain who writes about rand althor or whoever)

your best bet is to just re-read Ice and Fire and pray George Martin actually gets the rest of the books out


I dont agree with you about some of your taste (although robert jordan lost his way long ago..), but song of Ice and Fire is simply the best.
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Jim
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden1965 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-15 16:19:41
December 15 2004 16:17 GMT
#49
Yeah that Jordan fellow. I somewhat liked the story in the first 2-3 books, but after that it went downhill. And now its just pathetic. Filled with boring sideplots and plottered with useless adjectives.

edit. I have had the fourth book of a Song of Ice and Fire preordered for I dont know how long time.
To sup with the mighty ones, one must climb the path of daggers.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
December 16 2004 00:48 GMT
#50
I really hope no hollywood director EVER puts the silmarillion into a movie. As it's not a story going into details but rather a history book, it's impossible to make a movie out of it. It would suck ass...

And Hautamaki, Gothmog is the first of the Baelrog of Morgoth, right? It's been 6 months since I last read the silmarillion and lotr, but...
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pfff
Profile Joined May 2004
Belgium1352 Posts
December 16 2004 00:59 GMT
#51
i dont understand how some people absolutely hate the lotr or how some people think it is the alpha and omega of storytelling and moviemaking.
i mean, it was a really good movie, i can understand you didnt think it was that good, but if you like the fantasy genre, you mustve like something about it, you cant have thought it was complete and utter crap, anyone who has voices this opinion just fakes it imo, trying to make himself interesting by taking a stance no one else takes.
same thing for everyone who think the lotr movies/books completely own, stop kidding yourself, they werent perfect
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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
December 16 2004 01:52 GMT
#52
There's a certain difference between a book that owns and a book that's perfect.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
December 16 2004 02:04 GMT
#53
People should never compare a movie to a book. The book will always be so much better. Its just not fair to compare it to a book. What you have to do is compare the LOTR movies to other movies. When you do that it is fairly clear LORT is 3 classic films. Its the Star Wars of this generation. Its a set of films that will be watched for years to come.
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
December 16 2004 02:08 GMT
#54
Actually I think mostly, the thing that comes first is best...

iirc, Star Wars was a movie at first and later made a book as well and the movie was soo much better than the books.

But when the book is first, it will be so rich, full of details and if a movie follows it just can't follow up, it can't be 20 hours long and it will just never be as good as the book.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
December 16 2004 02:08 GMT
#55
rofl invincible ghost army? i'm never watching the 3rd movie
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RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
December 16 2004 02:16 GMT
#56
Uhm, i dunno if its ok they begin to do all this stuff with LOTR. When they exploit sthg too much it loses its charm. And Im still mad cause they didnt had Tom in the trilogy. I remember that the part in which he is going to put the ring on was one of the most expectant moments i had reading the trilogy.
MrIncognito
Profile Joined February 2004
United States217 Posts
December 16 2004 02:16 GMT
#57
On December 16 2004 11:08 GroT wrote:
rofl invincible ghost army? i'm never watching the 3rd movie


The Ghost army wasn't as lame as the computer-generated, featureless Legolas running all over the elephants.

But it's still worth watching. There was a charge of 7,000 cavalry that made up a lot of ground.
All I want is a kind word, a warm bed, and unlimited power.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
December 16 2004 02:30 GMT
#58
Well, Legolas was ridiculous in 2 and 3 anyway...
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 15:02:58
April 13 2011 14:52 GMT
#59
Bump after 6 years wooop!

Peter Jackson has announced, via a post on his official Facebook page, that he will be shooting his adaptation of The Hobbit at the higher rate of 48 frames per second.

The usual rate is 24fps, and has been since its introduction to cinema in 1927. The Hobbit will be the first major motion picture in history to feature the upgrade

Jackson thinks, "after nine decades", it's time for a change.

In the post, he addressed the inevitable backlash from "film purists" by saying that audience will "get used to this new look very quickly" as it will bring about a "much more lifelife and comfortable viewing experience."

He also said that films will become "easier to watch, especially in 3-D", with audiences being able to sit through "two hours of footage without getting eyestrain".

Jackson went onto claim that the difference between 24 and 48 fps is "significant", likening the technological evolution to when "vinyl records were supplanted by digital CDs".

The Lord of the Rings director also thanked Warner Bros for their support in the advancement, before predicting over 10,000 screens would be capable of projecting 48fps by the time of The Hobbit's release.

Jackson, who won an Academy Award for his work on The Return of the King, took over the directing chair after Guillermo del Toro left. He had become frustrated with the constant production delays that had thwarted the project early on.

The Office's Martin Freeman has been announced to be playing Bilbo Baggins in the film, a role originally played by Sir Ian Holm in The Lord of the Rings trilogy, while Sir Ian McKellen and Andy Serkis will be reprising the characters of Gandalf and Gollum respectively.

Serkis will also act as Second Unit Director on the project.

The Hobbit will be split into two parts, with the first being released in December 2012.



Read more: Peter Jackson is shooting The Hobbit at 48 frames per second | TotalFilm.com

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/peter-jackson-is-shooting-the-hobbit-at-48-frames-per-second?ns_campaign=news&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=totalfilm&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed: totalfilm/imdbnews (Total Film IMDb aggregate)



It will be the first movie ever shooted in 48 fps. What do you guys think? If im right, this will affect somehow blue-ray watchers though. Some blueray standard wont support 48fps or smthn.
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toBe
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany56 Posts
April 13 2011 15:00 GMT
#60
I've never seen a movie or even a short clip in the 48fps-format. So I think it's quiet interesting how that's going to be.

And The Hobbit as a movie - AWESOME.
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