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XiPSoLo
Profile Joined January 2011
United States21 Posts
January 10 2011 08:27 GMT
#1261
I completely agreed with Artosis on this one. It's not the games fault at all, but the "location, location, location."
Of course there are advertisements all over S. Korea; (if you haven't seen them then just goggle SC2 ads) but if the actual game play and tournament(s) are not in a proper spot (i.e. a mall) and with comfortable arrangements (the GSL participants/audience members are freezing constantly in the current stadium setups) then there will be no audience wanting to attend.
"Nothing exists except atoms and empty space; everything else is opinion." Democritus
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
January 10 2011 09:41 GMT
#1262
I think we can all conclude that the games in the GSL are getting better, we already seen that with BitByBit.Prime vs FOXMoon in the GSL today

+ Show Spoiler +
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
suejak
Profile Joined March 2010
Japan545 Posts
January 10 2011 11:43 GMT
#1263
On January 10 2011 18:41 SmoKim wrote:
I think we can all conclude that the games in the GSL are getting better, we already seen that with BitByBit.Prime vs FOXMoon in the GSL today

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A

Hey man, it's like evolution. Go easy on Code A for now. :D
Are you human?
YerknYass
Profile Joined January 2011
United States33 Posts
January 10 2011 12:34 GMT
#1264
Sick last game XD

I thought foxy McKing was a goner!
I'm blowin' up like you thought I would, Call the crib, same numba' same hood, it's all good- B.I.G.
Xyik
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada728 Posts
January 10 2011 12:52 GMT
#1265
I'm not that surprised to be honest, how many GSL games are there in a year? You can't really expect large attendance for all of them. Even I myself have been losing interest in watching the early rounds as there is a new tournament every month ... It doesn't matter who's playing or how big the prize pool is, when you see the same thing day after day, you naturally begin to lose interest and only absolutely have to watch the most important games like the finals.
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
January 10 2011 12:55 GMT
#1266
On January 10 2011 18:41 SmoKim wrote:
I think we can all conclude that the games in the GSL are getting better, we already seen that with BitByBit.Prime vs FOXMoon in the GSL today

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A



I think its getting better, considering that BitByBit actually lost the series, instead of winning and going to the RO16 (unlike GSL 3).

And people trashing on skill level of Moon need to consider the fact that BitByBit actually beat our very own HayPro 2-0 in GSL 3. Make of that what you will.
Envy fan since NTH.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
January 10 2011 13:35 GMT
#1267
its way too early for doomsday reports but i gotta say that its quite dissapointing when you hear like one person go "x fighting".

But then again as others have mentioned. there are a loooot of games so you can't expect attendance to all of them.

Knutzi
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway664 Posts
January 10 2011 13:42 GMT
#1268
i think once the maps are fixed and they weed out the rest of the horrible players who somehow got into code s its gonna get really good
frozt_
Profile Joined January 2011
United States234 Posts
January 10 2011 13:45 GMT
#1269
On January 07 2011 08:12 Shizuru~ wrote:
only 50 people showed up for Boxer's match? thats pretty unbelievable actually, but then again its not like regular proleague matches have over 100-200 live audience right?


how far away is Gom studio from the city? is it way out of reach from the city center or something?

That's in the gomtv studio, boxer's match was not in the stadium. Gomtv Studio probably can only fit a dozen more than 60 plus staff and camera equipment, I trust Artosis and Tasteless however when they say they are getting more and more hits on TV and the stream everyday. And as some people have said, how can you expect it to take down BW in the first 6 months when the game hasn't even been balanced 100%? Sc2 will dominate bw as soon as people like Flash, Jaedong, Stork, and Bisu retire. If just one of them retires it will hurt BW in korea. Then I imagine full support will go to sc2.
Practice and dedication reveals the greatness within a player
frozt_
Profile Joined January 2011
United States234 Posts
January 10 2011 13:49 GMT
#1270
On January 07 2011 08:04 rift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2011 08:03 Boblhead wrote:
If i'm correct GSL is broadcast through tv's so many koreans must prefer to watch from the comfort of their own home. Finals are around 5-7pm and i would assume most ppl are eating dinner.


GomTV is online.

GSL is on TV in korea.
Practice and dedication reveals the greatness within a player
pezit
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden302 Posts
January 10 2011 14:00 GMT
#1271
The good games will be far in between when Shakuras plateau and metalopolis are the only good maps in the pool, and even those are only good when you get cross position spawns. Just look at the reddit tourney yesterday when we got lucky and had several games where those maps/spawns popped up, it was awesome and i doubt anyone who watched it disagrees.

I know some of you will say that we should just wait, eventually new maps will come out and all will be good. But the crowd won't wait, it'll be way harder to get all the people back once they've gotten tired of the game than to actually keep them interested while they are still watching, this is why i want something to happen as soon as possible.

So yeah, since blizzard obviously won't do anything anytime soon the tournament organizers will have to do it themselves, yes i know ladder is great for convenient practice but that's just something we'll have to give up to improve the competitive aspect of the game.
Poonchow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States56 Posts
January 10 2011 14:07 GMT
#1272
On January 10 2011 23:00 pezit wrote:
The good games will be far in between when Shakuras plateau and metalopolis are the only good maps in the pool, and even those are only good when you get cross position spawns. Just look at the reddit tourney yesterday when we got lucky and had several games where those maps/spawns popped up, it was awesome and i doubt anyone who watched it disagrees.

I know some of you will say that we should just wait, eventually new maps will come out and all will be good. But the crowd won't wait, it'll be way harder to get all the people back once they've gotten tired of the game than to actually keep them interested while they are still watching, this is why i want something to happen as soon as possible.

So yeah, since blizzard obviously won't do anything anytime soon the tournament organizers will have to do it themselves, yes i know ladder is great for convenient practice but that's just something we'll have to give up to improve the competitive aspect of the game.


I agree, though I think part of the reason the reddit tournament was so damn entertaining was because the players are just that much more evenly matched. We have build order wins/losses going on in the GSL, and it's not just one of every ten or so games. The Korean playstyle is just not as entertaining right now, and I think part of the blame can be placed on players that focus so much on all-ins and early game rushes. We'll see if the maps alleviate some of those shenanigans and force the players to be more macro-oriented, but so far the level of play has not impressed me this season. No matter how good the players are, I'm not seeing epic games turn out.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
January 10 2011 14:14 GMT
#1273
On January 10 2011 22:45 frozt_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2011 08:12 Shizuru~ wrote:
only 50 people showed up for Boxer's match? thats pretty unbelievable actually, but then again its not like regular proleague matches have over 100-200 live audience right?


how far away is Gom studio from the city? is it way out of reach from the city center or something?

Sc2 will dominate bw as soon as people like Flash, Jaedong, Stork, and Bisu retire. If just one of them retires it will hurt BW in korea. Then I imagine full support will go to sc2.

If you actually think so, then you understand nothing about the BW scene in Korea.

영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Niick
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia426 Posts
January 10 2011 14:24 GMT
#1274
On January 10 2011 22:49 frozt_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2011 08:04 rift wrote:
On January 07 2011 08:03 Boblhead wrote:
If i'm correct GSL is broadcast through tv's so many koreans must prefer to watch from the comfort of their own home. Finals are around 5-7pm and i would assume most ppl are eating dinner.


GomTV is online.

GSL is on TV in korea.


source? I was always under the impression it was online only.
You'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel.
pezit
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden302 Posts
January 10 2011 14:25 GMT
#1275
On January 10 2011 23:24 Niick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 22:49 frozt_ wrote:
On January 07 2011 08:04 rift wrote:
On January 07 2011 08:03 Boblhead wrote:
If i'm correct GSL is broadcast through tv's so many koreans must prefer to watch from the comfort of their own home. Finals are around 5-7pm and i would assume most ppl are eating dinner.


GomTV is online.

GSL is on TV in korea.


source? I was always under the impression it was online only.


It's not on TV, they watch the stream just as we do.
frozt_
Profile Joined January 2011
United States234 Posts
January 10 2011 14:26 GMT
#1276
On January 10 2011 23:07 Poonchow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 23:00 pezit wrote:
The good games will be far in between when Shakuras plateau and metalopolis are the only good maps in the pool, and even those are only good when you get cross position spawns. Just look at the reddit tourney yesterday when we got lucky and had several games where those maps/spawns popped up, it was awesome and i doubt anyone who watched it disagrees.

I know some of you will say that we should just wait, eventually new maps will come out and all will be good. But the crowd won't wait, it'll be way harder to get all the people back once they've gotten tired of the game than to actually keep them interested while they are still watching, this is why i want something to happen as soon as possible.

So yeah, since blizzard obviously won't do anything anytime soon the tournament organizers will have to do it themselves, yes i know ladder is great for convenient practice but that's just something we'll have to give up to improve the competitive aspect of the game.


I agree, though I think part of the reason the reddit tournament was so damn entertaining was because the players are just that much more evenly matched. We have build order wins/losses going on in the GSL, and it's not just one of every ten or so games. The Korean playstyle is just not as entertaining right now, and I think part of the blame can be placed on players that focus so much on all-ins and early game rushes. We'll see if the maps alleviate some of those shenanigans and force the players to be more macro-oriented, but so far the level of play has not impressed me this season. No matter how good the players are, I'm not seeing epic games turn out.

Great point, although the all in aspect and bad map pool are the problem now that is good to hear because those "kinks" will be worked out over time and when they are (Sooner the better) The entire world will be wanting a piece of sc2 action as much as possible. You cannot expect the game to be perfect 6 months after release when bw took many years to get where it is today. Give it time gents.
Practice and dedication reveals the greatness within a player
Ronald_McD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada807 Posts
January 10 2011 14:27 GMT
#1277
I think it's a little earlier to be sounding the alarms
If GSL is going to take off it will take some time for the taboo against it to go away and for big stars to be made
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frozt_
Profile Joined January 2011
United States234 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 14:28:39
January 10 2011 14:27 GMT
#1278
On January 10 2011 23:24 Niick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 22:49 frozt_ wrote:
On January 07 2011 08:04 rift wrote:
On January 07 2011 08:03 Boblhead wrote:
If i'm correct GSL is broadcast through tv's so many koreans must prefer to watch from the comfort of their own home. Finals are around 5-7pm and i would assume most ppl are eating dinner.


GomTV is online.

GSL is on TV in korea.


source? I was always under the impression it was online only.

My source is Tasteless and Artosis, They have said many times they do the player interviews during breaks in which the commercials are on during the korean TV broadcast, listen when they talk.
Edit: They also said while they were explaining Code S format that it is not a round robin tournament "setting" or "system" because when you are on TV you dont have an option to extend your time.
Practice and dedication reveals the greatness within a player
pezit
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden302 Posts
January 10 2011 14:32 GMT
#1279
On January 10 2011 23:27 frozt_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 23:24 Niick wrote:
On January 10 2011 22:49 frozt_ wrote:
On January 07 2011 08:04 rift wrote:
On January 07 2011 08:03 Boblhead wrote:
If i'm correct GSL is broadcast through tv's so many koreans must prefer to watch from the comfort of their own home. Finals are around 5-7pm and i would assume most ppl are eating dinner.


GomTV is online.

GSL is on TV in korea.


source? I was always under the impression it was online only.

My source is Tasteless and Artosis, They have said many times they do the player interviews during breaks in which the commercials are on during the korean TV broadcast, listen when they talk.
Edit: They also said while they were explaining Code S format that it is not a round robin tournament "setting" or "system" because when you are on TV you dont have an option to extend your time.


They have commercials on their stream, it's not on TV. And it's not like they can control for how long games will play anyway, most sports that is shown on TV can extend past the expected time and delay upcoming shows, happens all the time in soccer with overtime etc.
Niick
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia426 Posts
January 10 2011 14:34 GMT
#1280
On January 10 2011 23:27 frozt_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 23:24 Niick wrote:
On January 10 2011 22:49 frozt_ wrote:
On January 07 2011 08:04 rift wrote:
On January 07 2011 08:03 Boblhead wrote:
If i'm correct GSL is broadcast through tv's so many koreans must prefer to watch from the comfort of their own home. Finals are around 5-7pm and i would assume most ppl are eating dinner.


GomTV is online.

GSL is on TV in korea.


source? I was always under the impression it was online only.

My source is Tasteless and Artosis, They have said many times they do the player interviews during breaks in which the commercials are on during the korean TV broadcast, listen when they talk.
Edit: They also said while they were explaining Code S format that it is not a round robin tournament "setting" or "system" because when you are on TV you dont have an option to extend your time.


I know they say Commercials during the korean broadcast... but I don't recall them saying TV. I'll watch a few more casts later
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