• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:14
CEST 06:14
KST 13:14
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7
Community News
Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles2GSTL Returns in 2026!45Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0
StarCraft 2
General
Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away GSTL Returns in 2026! SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall 2026 GSTL Announcement Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome Mutation # 538 Media Blackout Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 ASL22 General Discussion Pros React To: First 'Fastest' Map in ASL History BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Toronto invitational lan 22 august [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro24 Group B [ASL22] Ro24 Group A
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Dating: How's your luck? Artificial Intelligence Thread The Letting Off Steam Thread
Fan Clubs
The Creator Fan Club MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Young Players Exit Esports E…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4310 users

GSL Popularity - Page 64

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 62 63 64 65 66 Next
XiPSoLo
Profile Joined January 2011
United States21 Posts
January 10 2011 08:27 GMT
#1261
I completely agreed with Artosis on this one. It's not the games fault at all, but the "location, location, location."
Of course there are advertisements all over S. Korea; (if you haven't seen them then just goggle SC2 ads) but if the actual game play and tournament(s) are not in a proper spot (i.e. a mall) and with comfortable arrangements (the GSL participants/audience members are freezing constantly in the current stadium setups) then there will be no audience wanting to attend.
"Nothing exists except atoms and empty space; everything else is opinion." Democritus
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
January 10 2011 09:41 GMT
#1262
I think we can all conclude that the games in the GSL are getting better, we already seen that with BitByBit.Prime vs FOXMoon in the GSL today

+ Show Spoiler +
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
suejak
Profile Joined March 2010
Japan545 Posts
January 10 2011 11:43 GMT
#1263
On January 10 2011 18:41 SmoKim wrote:
I think we can all conclude that the games in the GSL are getting better, we already seen that with BitByBit.Prime vs FOXMoon in the GSL today

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A

Hey man, it's like evolution. Go easy on Code A for now. :D
Are you human?
YerknYass
Profile Joined January 2011
United States33 Posts
January 10 2011 12:34 GMT
#1264
Sick last game XD

I thought foxy McKing was a goner!
I'm blowin' up like you thought I would, Call the crib, same numba' same hood, it's all good- B.I.G.
Xyik
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada728 Posts
January 10 2011 12:52 GMT
#1265
I'm not that surprised to be honest, how many GSL games are there in a year? You can't really expect large attendance for all of them. Even I myself have been losing interest in watching the early rounds as there is a new tournament every month ... It doesn't matter who's playing or how big the prize pool is, when you see the same thing day after day, you naturally begin to lose interest and only absolutely have to watch the most important games like the finals.
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
January 10 2011 12:55 GMT
#1266
On January 10 2011 18:41 SmoKim wrote:
I think we can all conclude that the games in the GSL are getting better, we already seen that with BitByBit.Prime vs FOXMoon in the GSL today

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A



I think its getting better, considering that BitByBit actually lost the series, instead of winning and going to the RO16 (unlike GSL 3).

And people trashing on skill level of Moon need to consider the fact that BitByBit actually beat our very own HayPro 2-0 in GSL 3. Make of that what you will.
Envy fan since NTH.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
January 10 2011 13:35 GMT
#1267
its way too early for doomsday reports but i gotta say that its quite dissapointing when you hear like one person go "x fighting".

But then again as others have mentioned. there are a loooot of games so you can't expect attendance to all of them.

Knutzi
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway664 Posts
January 10 2011 13:42 GMT
#1268
i think once the maps are fixed and they weed out the rest of the horrible players who somehow got into code s its gonna get really good
frozt_
Profile Joined January 2011
United States234 Posts
January 10 2011 13:45 GMT
#1269
On January 07 2011 08:12 Shizuru~ wrote:
only 50 people showed up for Boxer's match? thats pretty unbelievable actually, but then again its not like regular proleague matches have over 100-200 live audience right?


how far away is Gom studio from the city? is it way out of reach from the city center or something?

That's in the gomtv studio, boxer's match was not in the stadium. Gomtv Studio probably can only fit a dozen more than 60 plus staff and camera equipment, I trust Artosis and Tasteless however when they say they are getting more and more hits on TV and the stream everyday. And as some people have said, how can you expect it to take down BW in the first 6 months when the game hasn't even been balanced 100%? Sc2 will dominate bw as soon as people like Flash, Jaedong, Stork, and Bisu retire. If just one of them retires it will hurt BW in korea. Then I imagine full support will go to sc2.
Practice and dedication reveals the greatness within a player
frozt_
Profile Joined January 2011
United States234 Posts
January 10 2011 13:49 GMT
#1270
On January 07 2011 08:04 rift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2011 08:03 Boblhead wrote:
If i'm correct GSL is broadcast through tv's so many koreans must prefer to watch from the comfort of their own home. Finals are around 5-7pm and i would assume most ppl are eating dinner.


GomTV is online.

GSL is on TV in korea.
Practice and dedication reveals the greatness within a player
pezit
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden302 Posts
January 10 2011 14:00 GMT
#1271
The good games will be far in between when Shakuras plateau and metalopolis are the only good maps in the pool, and even those are only good when you get cross position spawns. Just look at the reddit tourney yesterday when we got lucky and had several games where those maps/spawns popped up, it was awesome and i doubt anyone who watched it disagrees.

I know some of you will say that we should just wait, eventually new maps will come out and all will be good. But the crowd won't wait, it'll be way harder to get all the people back once they've gotten tired of the game than to actually keep them interested while they are still watching, this is why i want something to happen as soon as possible.

So yeah, since blizzard obviously won't do anything anytime soon the tournament organizers will have to do it themselves, yes i know ladder is great for convenient practice but that's just something we'll have to give up to improve the competitive aspect of the game.
Poonchow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States56 Posts
January 10 2011 14:07 GMT
#1272
On January 10 2011 23:00 pezit wrote:
The good games will be far in between when Shakuras plateau and metalopolis are the only good maps in the pool, and even those are only good when you get cross position spawns. Just look at the reddit tourney yesterday when we got lucky and had several games where those maps/spawns popped up, it was awesome and i doubt anyone who watched it disagrees.

I know some of you will say that we should just wait, eventually new maps will come out and all will be good. But the crowd won't wait, it'll be way harder to get all the people back once they've gotten tired of the game than to actually keep them interested while they are still watching, this is why i want something to happen as soon as possible.

So yeah, since blizzard obviously won't do anything anytime soon the tournament organizers will have to do it themselves, yes i know ladder is great for convenient practice but that's just something we'll have to give up to improve the competitive aspect of the game.


I agree, though I think part of the reason the reddit tournament was so damn entertaining was because the players are just that much more evenly matched. We have build order wins/losses going on in the GSL, and it's not just one of every ten or so games. The Korean playstyle is just not as entertaining right now, and I think part of the blame can be placed on players that focus so much on all-ins and early game rushes. We'll see if the maps alleviate some of those shenanigans and force the players to be more macro-oriented, but so far the level of play has not impressed me this season. No matter how good the players are, I'm not seeing epic games turn out.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
January 10 2011 14:14 GMT
#1273
On January 10 2011 22:45 frozt_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2011 08:12 Shizuru~ wrote:
only 50 people showed up for Boxer's match? thats pretty unbelievable actually, but then again its not like regular proleague matches have over 100-200 live audience right?


how far away is Gom studio from the city? is it way out of reach from the city center or something?

Sc2 will dominate bw as soon as people like Flash, Jaedong, Stork, and Bisu retire. If just one of them retires it will hurt BW in korea. Then I imagine full support will go to sc2.

If you actually think so, then you understand nothing about the BW scene in Korea.

영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Niick
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia426 Posts
January 10 2011 14:24 GMT
#1274
On January 10 2011 22:49 frozt_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2011 08:04 rift wrote:
On January 07 2011 08:03 Boblhead wrote:
If i'm correct GSL is broadcast through tv's so many koreans must prefer to watch from the comfort of their own home. Finals are around 5-7pm and i would assume most ppl are eating dinner.


GomTV is online.

GSL is on TV in korea.


source? I was always under the impression it was online only.
You'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel.
pezit
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden302 Posts
January 10 2011 14:25 GMT
#1275
On January 10 2011 23:24 Niick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 22:49 frozt_ wrote:
On January 07 2011 08:04 rift wrote:
On January 07 2011 08:03 Boblhead wrote:
If i'm correct GSL is broadcast through tv's so many koreans must prefer to watch from the comfort of their own home. Finals are around 5-7pm and i would assume most ppl are eating dinner.


GomTV is online.

GSL is on TV in korea.


source? I was always under the impression it was online only.


It's not on TV, they watch the stream just as we do.
frozt_
Profile Joined January 2011
United States234 Posts
January 10 2011 14:26 GMT
#1276
On January 10 2011 23:07 Poonchow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 23:00 pezit wrote:
The good games will be far in between when Shakuras plateau and metalopolis are the only good maps in the pool, and even those are only good when you get cross position spawns. Just look at the reddit tourney yesterday when we got lucky and had several games where those maps/spawns popped up, it was awesome and i doubt anyone who watched it disagrees.

I know some of you will say that we should just wait, eventually new maps will come out and all will be good. But the crowd won't wait, it'll be way harder to get all the people back once they've gotten tired of the game than to actually keep them interested while they are still watching, this is why i want something to happen as soon as possible.

So yeah, since blizzard obviously won't do anything anytime soon the tournament organizers will have to do it themselves, yes i know ladder is great for convenient practice but that's just something we'll have to give up to improve the competitive aspect of the game.


I agree, though I think part of the reason the reddit tournament was so damn entertaining was because the players are just that much more evenly matched. We have build order wins/losses going on in the GSL, and it's not just one of every ten or so games. The Korean playstyle is just not as entertaining right now, and I think part of the blame can be placed on players that focus so much on all-ins and early game rushes. We'll see if the maps alleviate some of those shenanigans and force the players to be more macro-oriented, but so far the level of play has not impressed me this season. No matter how good the players are, I'm not seeing epic games turn out.

Great point, although the all in aspect and bad map pool are the problem now that is good to hear because those "kinks" will be worked out over time and when they are (Sooner the better) The entire world will be wanting a piece of sc2 action as much as possible. You cannot expect the game to be perfect 6 months after release when bw took many years to get where it is today. Give it time gents.
Practice and dedication reveals the greatness within a player
Ronald_McD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada807 Posts
January 10 2011 14:27 GMT
#1277
I think it's a little earlier to be sounding the alarms
If GSL is going to take off it will take some time for the taboo against it to go away and for big stars to be made
FUCKING GAY LAGS
frozt_
Profile Joined January 2011
United States234 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 14:28:39
January 10 2011 14:27 GMT
#1278
On January 10 2011 23:24 Niick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 22:49 frozt_ wrote:
On January 07 2011 08:04 rift wrote:
On January 07 2011 08:03 Boblhead wrote:
If i'm correct GSL is broadcast through tv's so many koreans must prefer to watch from the comfort of their own home. Finals are around 5-7pm and i would assume most ppl are eating dinner.


GomTV is online.

GSL is on TV in korea.


source? I was always under the impression it was online only.

My source is Tasteless and Artosis, They have said many times they do the player interviews during breaks in which the commercials are on during the korean TV broadcast, listen when they talk.
Edit: They also said while they were explaining Code S format that it is not a round robin tournament "setting" or "system" because when you are on TV you dont have an option to extend your time.
Practice and dedication reveals the greatness within a player
pezit
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden302 Posts
January 10 2011 14:32 GMT
#1279
On January 10 2011 23:27 frozt_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 23:24 Niick wrote:
On January 10 2011 22:49 frozt_ wrote:
On January 07 2011 08:04 rift wrote:
On January 07 2011 08:03 Boblhead wrote:
If i'm correct GSL is broadcast through tv's so many koreans must prefer to watch from the comfort of their own home. Finals are around 5-7pm and i would assume most ppl are eating dinner.


GomTV is online.

GSL is on TV in korea.


source? I was always under the impression it was online only.

My source is Tasteless and Artosis, They have said many times they do the player interviews during breaks in which the commercials are on during the korean TV broadcast, listen when they talk.
Edit: They also said while they were explaining Code S format that it is not a round robin tournament "setting" or "system" because when you are on TV you dont have an option to extend your time.


They have commercials on their stream, it's not on TV. And it's not like they can control for how long games will play anyway, most sports that is shown on TV can extend past the expected time and delay upcoming shows, happens all the time in soccer with overtime etc.
Niick
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia426 Posts
January 10 2011 14:34 GMT
#1280
On January 10 2011 23:27 frozt_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 23:24 Niick wrote:
On January 10 2011 22:49 frozt_ wrote:
On January 07 2011 08:04 rift wrote:
On January 07 2011 08:03 Boblhead wrote:
If i'm correct GSL is broadcast through tv's so many koreans must prefer to watch from the comfort of their own home. Finals are around 5-7pm and i would assume most ppl are eating dinner.


GomTV is online.

GSL is on TV in korea.


source? I was always under the impression it was online only.

My source is Tasteless and Artosis, They have said many times they do the player interviews during breaks in which the commercials are on during the korean TV broadcast, listen when they talk.
Edit: They also said while they were explaining Code S format that it is not a round robin tournament "setting" or "system" because when you are on TV you dont have an option to extend your time.


I know they say Commercials during the korean broadcast... but I don't recall them saying TV. I'll watch a few more casts later
You'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel.
Prev 1 62 63 64 65 66 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
23:00
FSL s11 - code S championships
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft389
RuFF_SC2 189
ProTech135
Nina 34
StarCraft: Brood War
Sharp 624
Noble 21
Icarus 10
Dota 2
The International91033
NeuroSwarm147
LuMiX0
League of Legends
JimRising 737
Counter-Strike
taco 558
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox637
Other Games
summit1g12125
C9.Mang0295
ViBE160
ROOTCatZ51
Trikslyr51
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick790
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 65
• davetesta33
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Light_VIP 5
• iopq 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• Noizen25
League of Legends
• Rush1044
• Lourlo933
• Stunt232
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
5h 46m
PiG Sty Festival
7h 46m
Zoun vs Solar
SHIN vs Maru
Patches Events
11h 46m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 5h
PiG Sty Festival
1d 7h
TBD vs Reynor
Serral vs TBD
OSC
1d 11h
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
hero vs ggaemo
Larva vs Mong
The Patches Monday
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Soulkey vs PianO
JyJ vs sSak
GSL
3 days
[ Show More ]
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Mini vs Calm
Queen vs EffOrt
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W8
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 1
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.