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jackrandomsx
Profile Joined October 2010
United States24 Posts
January 10 2011 18:14 GMT
#1301
On January 11 2011 03:08 DominicxD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 03:00 jackrandomsx wrote:
I'm not looking to purely blame Blizz for this, but their actions in restricting the use of SC2 in Korea has resulted in serious damage to the game's growth. There's zero TV presence and entirely too many restrictions in comparison to what the market there is willing to deal with. The gamble they made was, "our brand is so strong that we can do whatever we want," but i think they might have overestimated things.

Blizzard's bid at short term profit could be causing long term damage

They've made their money. They probably don't give a fuck anymore and just want to focus on WoW.

Nah, SC2 underperformed overall, particularly in korea, they misplayed it. They clearly had a long term plan, and if their estimation of the Korean market were accurate, they would have cleaned up.
Nutrilait
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada15 Posts
January 10 2011 18:14 GMT
#1302
On January 10 2011 23:59 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 23:47 frozt_ wrote:
On January 10 2011 21:52 Xyik wrote:
I'm not that surprised to be honest, how many GSL games are there in a year? You can't really expect large attendance for all of them. Even I myself have been losing interest in watching the early rounds as there is a new tournament every month ... It doesn't matter who's playing or how big the prize pool is, when you see the same thing day after day, you naturally begin to lose interest and only absolutely have to watch the most important games like the finals.

You sir aren't a starcraft fan! And with time when greats of sc2 arise you will want to see them day after day, That's like saying If you could see Flash, Jaedong, Stork, And bisu play for a shit ton of money every month you would lose interest? Just doesn't make any sense, The game is 6 months old and needs some more adjustments no doubt.


What does not liking gsl have to do with not being a StarCraft fan? OSL, MSL and PL are StarCraft leagues. Gsl is an sc2 league. StarCraft 2 =/= StarCraft.

And what he said makes perfect sense. The reason why events like the World Cup or Champions League are so hyped and people enjoy them so much is because they are so rare.


I don't understand why people compare the GSL to the World Cup... the GSL is a LEAGUE. Look at the NHL or the NFL (which are both leagues aswell), they broadcast games almost seven days a week for most of the year. There needs to be ALOT of SC2 broadcasted in order to keep the interest up.

--

On the topic of cheeses and all-ins.

What was fun from yesterday's GSL is that, eventhough games were pretty one-sided and to some extent "boring", almost no all-in suceeded. They all got crushed. People will eventually become so good at defending those that it's not even gonna matter anymore, I'm sure... and hopeful.
jackrandomsx
Profile Joined October 2010
United States24 Posts
January 10 2011 18:15 GMT
#1303
On January 11 2011 03:13 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 03:08 DominicxD wrote:
On January 11 2011 03:00 jackrandomsx wrote:
I'm not looking to purely blame Blizz for this, but their actions in restricting the use of SC2 in Korea has resulted in serious damage to the game's growth. There's zero TV presence and entirely too many restrictions in comparison to what the market there is willing to deal with. The gamble they made was, "our brand is so strong that we can do whatever we want," but i think they might have overestimated things.

Blizzard's bid at short term profit could be causing long term damage

They've made their money. They probably don't give a fuck anymore and just want to focus on WoW.


No they haven't there are 2 more expansions coming up and think about the money they get if they get sc2 broadcasted since it's their IP ( if they win the case v OGN and MBC that is ).


And what restrictions are you talking about jackrandomsx??

broadcasting restrictions mostly.
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
January 10 2011 19:50 GMT
#1304
Can a mod lock this? I really didn't think it would get this ridiculous when I made the OP.
1Lamb1Rice
Profile Joined August 2010
United States435 Posts
January 10 2011 20:04 GMT
#1305
They need a korean tastosis
twitch.tv/lambnrice @LambNRice
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5536 Posts
January 10 2011 20:27 GMT
#1306
On January 11 2011 03:14 Nutrilait wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 23:59 maybenexttime wrote:
On January 10 2011 23:47 frozt_ wrote:
On January 10 2011 21:52 Xyik wrote:
I'm not that surprised to be honest, how many GSL games are there in a year? You can't really expect large attendance for all of them. Even I myself have been losing interest in watching the early rounds as there is a new tournament every month ... It doesn't matter who's playing or how big the prize pool is, when you see the same thing day after day, you naturally begin to lose interest and only absolutely have to watch the most important games like the finals.

You sir aren't a starcraft fan! And with time when greats of sc2 arise you will want to see them day after day, That's like saying If you could see Flash, Jaedong, Stork, And bisu play for a shit ton of money every month you would lose interest? Just doesn't make any sense, The game is 6 months old and needs some more adjustments no doubt.


What does not liking gsl have to do with not being a StarCraft fan? OSL, MSL and PL are StarCraft leagues. Gsl is an sc2 league. StarCraft 2 =/= StarCraft.

And what he said makes perfect sense. The reason why events like the World Cup or Champions League are so hyped and people enjoy them so much is because they are so rare.


I don't understand why people compare the GSL to the World Cup... the GSL is a LEAGUE. Look at the NHL or the NFL (which are both leagues aswell), they broadcast games almost seven days a week for most of the year. There needs to be ALOT of SC2 broadcasted in order to keep the interest up.

--

On the topic of cheeses and all-ins.

What was fun from yesterday's GSL is that, eventhough games were pretty one-sided and to some extent "boring", almost no all-in suceeded. They all got crushed. People will eventually become so good at defending those that it's not even gonna matter anymore, I'm sure... and hopeful.


Gsl is like Champions League, ProLeague is like NHL, etc., I assume.

The reason why people say gsl should take notes from events like Champions League or World Cup (no one's comparing gsl to them, let's be real) is because their organisers understand that hype needs time to build up. Oversaturating the viewers with a shitton of crappy matches will not keep up the interest, quite the opposite. You can tell that by the amount of people complaining about the quality of the games.
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
January 10 2011 20:55 GMT
#1307
This thread has gotten out of hand and no longer generating any useful discussion. Closing this as requested by the OP.
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
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