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Did you play Broodwar passionately, with the intent to get better?
Y/N
Were you a member of Teamliquid long before Starcraft 2 was ever rumored to in development?
Y/N
Did you answer yes to both these questions? You did? Well my name is -_-, and despite what that name would suggest, I'm much more than just a pretty face. I'm a prescient prognosticator of prodigous proportions. You don't believe me? I can prove it! I predict that you'll answer yes to question below in spoiler tags.
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Do you have serious problems with Starcraft 2?
Y/N
Pshhaw you say? Big deal? Well, it might not take John the Baptist to see that Broodwar veterans aren't Pollyannish about Starcraft 2, but I can do a little more. I'll tell you why, and I'll do it succinctly:
MONEY
*Why are so many more games in Starcraft 2 being decided by all-ins than were in Broodwar? Money. The big prizes available incentivize winning NOW, so professionals don't worry about improving. While you're laughing at the person who 4 gates to a 1000win-1000loss record, you don't realize your favorite pro is laughing at you while doing the same thing on a subtler level; a two base collosus timing attack.
*Why was watching Chill's stream once a week more fun than watching the professional streams we can now watch 24-7? Money. Chill was playing because he loved to, not because he wanted to sell you coaching lessons, get you to make a paypal donation, or have you visit his website.
*Why were the few, small-scale foriegn tournaments we had back in the day more important to the players and spectators involved, than the huge 128-man productions we have now which are loaded with every good foriegn player and watched by thousands? Money. Money devalues. Why should a player care about winning a particular tournament for 5k? All he needs to do is place in the money at a few smaller tourneys, coach a few lessons, and voila! He's up to 5k! Winning does not matter. Getting an equivalent amount of money is what matters.
*What's the problem with the community today? All the newbs spamming and flaming? Too much moderation? Too little? None of the above. It's money. Why did people help the community during the Broodwar era? Because they wanted to help the community out, and because they wanted the community's respect. Period. That's where it stopped. Nothing more. Why do people do things for the community today? Because they want the community's respect ... ... ... so they can become a name and coach.
What can you do? How can you save SC2?
Honestly, I don't know.
Anybody ever think about those insane filicide mothers who say they loved their children so, So, SO! much they just had to drown them all in meticulous fashion.
You know, first they kill the oldest child. If they didn't, then the oldest kid might catch on. It might catch on, and try to escape. The mom can't blame the oldest kid; it doesn't know better, but all the same, she's got to drown him first. So the mother gives her first-born the priority that is its birthright and then goes down the line. By the time the mom gets down the last little baby, even though she doesn't like killing her kid, she can't help but be pleased that even though she's already killed 6 kids, the 7th is none the wiser.
Man, those moms are crazy. What could they possibly be thinking? How can somebody love something and just slaughter it?
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YNY
to answer your questions
-_-"
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From what I understand you're saying that SC2 will never reach the heights of glory that BW reached because of a general lack of passion, an incentive for money rather than a love for the game.
I heavily disagree. I play a good amount of SC2, and I watch a decent amount of BW. And I say I love both games so much. I play to improve, I play to get better. And yes right now there are a whole bunch of all in's and that may throw you off, but you have to keep in mind that time needs to develop before we are able to stabilize the game and enter the period where macro and micro determine the game rather than luck.
And yes some people say that SC2 is developing much faster, and that is true, but there still needs to be time to figure it out, and its noticable in that yes many builds that were all in have been figured out(korean 4 warpgate, all in thor, at least somewhat.)
I have faith in SC2, and I have faith that it can reach heights which no one thought possible.
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So I cant play SC2 cause BW was better but I cant play BW cause Im to use to SC2...
Im gonna go play WoW Cata. 
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'Why Brood War was better than starcraft 2'? Clearly you're using the wrong tense, it should be 'Why Brood War is better than starcraft 2' =P
Also to answer your questions, NN (for the last question, in what way?)
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YNY. But I don't think it all boils down to greed (although the actions of Activillian might).
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NN?
still too early to judge SC2
from a spectator standpoint its still boring to watch
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Can we get a subforum for bw players whining about sc2?
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On December 14 2010 01:19 Zrana wrote:
Can we get a subforum for bw players whining about sc2?
Only if we get occasional showmatches between the whiniest bw players and the whiniest sc2 players.
Bo19 all matchups across both games, ACE match in war2
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YY
I think SC2 is great. A lot of people just don't play well enough.
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
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YYN.
I still find myself standing up and pulling on my hair and screaming like a little fan boy when I watch players I like in the GSL. Watching Fruitdealer go 14 hatch vs a 2 rax is exciting for me, maybe I am just a masochist, though.
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YYN
1) your prediction failed
2) i dug broodwar, but found playing online a hassle to set up
3) i really like sc2 although it's not as finetuned as broodwar
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Sorta / No / Sorta
My friends and I ran tons of BGH, UMS, and random Blizzard made maps like Chain Lightning. We played to win but not passionately in the iCCup laddering sense.
I agree with some of your post though, the sheer volume of SC2 tournaments waters down my enthusiasm. It's the same reason I can't get into the NBA or MLB: there's simply too many games in a season. Who cares if your team wins or loses tonight, they've got another 3 to play this week alone :|
With college football, on the other hand... every game matters.
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YYY
it's so much easier for me to teach friends how to play SC2, but i have almost 0 passion for this game. it's frustrating for me to hardly ever play, but it's that pink elephant in the room for me.
money is defiantly something i've noticed, just never put 2 and 2 together i suppose.
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Sweden33719 Posts
Fill in the blank:
The BW professionals played to make _______?
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On December 14 2010 01:19 Zrana wrote:
Can we get a subforum for bw players whining about sc2?
good idea
On December 14 2010 01:22 seRapH wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 01:19 Zrana wrote:
Can we get a subforum for bw players whining about sc2? Only if we get occasional showmatches between the whiniest bw players and the whiniest sc2 players. Bo19 all matchups across both games, ACE match in war2
even better
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On December 14 2010 01:38 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Fill in the blank:
The BW professionals played to make _______?
there was little money in the game (only family shame! how could have they known?) back when SC1 first started, but the OP hasn't pointed this out
it's all changed now though
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Do agree that BW is better, but I do not agree with your reasons.
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YYY
I don't think money is the root of my problems with SC2 though. And of course I'll still play the goddamn game despite its serious problems, like I've done for other terrible games in the past.
That said, SC2 is still really fun, and really, really hard and is basically a better gaming experience than any other out there save BW.
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YNY
I agree that the money grabbing is quite off putting in SC2. I'm all for playing for prize pools and even sponsorships but all the side ways for players to make money (coaching, commentating etc.) bugs me. I guess it's not really fair, but I just enjoyed sharing a hobby with people rather than feeling like a consumer of their product.
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YYN
I have some problems with sc2, but they aren't serious. I also don't think money is the reason why most sc2 pros are pros. Even with the increase in prize pool and coaching opportunities, being an sc2 pro probably gives you one of the worst hourly wages unless you are best of the best and are lucky enough to place extremely well in multiple GSLs. I don't think it is really conceivable to become pro at this game without immense passion.
i also agree BW is a better game.
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ohh yes i see. The game is shit, because there are tourneys offering a lot of money for playing it.
wait, how is that the games fault?
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Bad logic imo. So you disagree with the increased money involved in SC2?! Then what do you say about the Korean BW scene where Flash Jaedong and even the Bonjwa's were earning 6-digit incomes... Nada earned approx 500,000 - 600,000$ / year.
Please keep things real!!
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YYN
Both games are fun to play and fun to watch. They're different games. Sure I'll agree with anyone that SC2 has its problems, and that BW is a more fine-tuned game at this point, but there's nothing that can't be fixed with a few expansions and patches.
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On December 14 2010 01:38 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Fill in the blank:
The BW professionals played to make _______?
bunnies and lollipops
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On December 14 2010 01:38 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Fill in the blank:
The BW professionals played to make _______?
Me happy? 
I actually liked this blog. I don't think Blizz or other tourneys injecting so much money so early on into the game's life is bad for it. It will probably develop e-sports/pro-gaming/etc in the long run.
What does piss me off is seeing all these people with featured streams, calling themselves pros, and coaching for 25$ an hour and asking for donations.
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Why are people so insistent in proving BW was better?
First of all it doesn't matter, BW is on it's way out and SC2 is looking to fill the void and hopefully some eSports importance around the world.
Secondly, why do people expect the same depth in a new game as a 12 year old game has? The game is still being figured out, patches still change gameplay on a monthly basis and that's not even considering the two expansions that are on their way. There isn't even standard builds yet.
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I agree that watching SCBW is more entertaininng than watching SC2 for now ( I insist on FOR NOW ). But I don't really get your point. Basicly SC2 players are all sellouts, money whores, while SCBW players play for the love of the game, for the art, and only live with bread, water and a computer?
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and another Blizz-Blizz situation for the win!
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I'm sorry if I'm off here, or if I'm not making the point that the OP is trying to make, but just to clarify:
(One of) The problem(s) with the involvement of money in SC2 is that at the beginning of the game's development it immediately became viable as a full-time job. People focus all their practice and efforts on all-ins will have more success in tournaments with monetary prizes. They will therefore be able to support themselves and focus full-time on the game. Those who try find defenses to these all-ins while remaining economically ahead will never be able to do so, since at least for the time being they will not place well tournaments and be unable to support themselves and dedicate all their time to SC2 (Jinro proved an exception, but is certainly not the rule. Congratulations!)
The reason this did not happen with BW was because at the beginning of the game's development, everyone played for fun. It was definitely not possible to support yourself just playing BW for a while, and so those who chose to find defenses to all-ins were on even footing with the people who constantly all-in'd.
As for my personal opinion, I'm not sure. It's definitely an interesting point that I hadn't considered before. I probably don't know enough about the history of BW to make a definitive statement.
But I do think there are other reasons that SC2 is so all-in based (Well first of all, I think BW was a lot more all-in based than a lot of people realize, but that's another topic completely). Like Idra said in his interview, there are certain aspects that cause it to be more favorable. The protoss warp-in mechanic completely eliminates any reinforcement time, a key aspect in the defender's advantage. The maps are tiny, but messing with the maps might require a whole new re-balancing of the game. Who knows, really. It's really impossible to attribute one reason to these kinds of trends ... but I do think money has played a larger role than most people, including myself, realized.
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On December 14 2010 01:48 Firereaver wrote:
Bad logic imo. So you disagree with the increased money involved in SC2?! Then what do you say about the Korean BW scene where Flash Jaedong and even the Bonjwa's were earning 6-digit incomes... Nada earned approx 500,000 - 600,000$ / year.
Please keep things real!!
You hit on an important point I realize I should clarify.
When I was talking about Broodwar players not having money, I meant foriegn BW players had no money. Not that there was no money in BW in Korea or China.
The foriegn communities status of an outsider looking in on all that money worked very well for foriegners. I'm not sure it worked that well for the fans, gamers, and professionals in Korea. I've heard about a lot of problems, but I could not say for sure.
All I know is that things worked well for us in the foriegn community. We had everything we have now with none of the drawbacks. Huge tourneys. Great players who can sustain themselves gaming. Quality commentary. Just none of the money-grubbing.
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
wait wat
why is it past tense in the title?
maybe it "IS" not "WAS", i think?
answers are "Yes" - "No" - "Whadaya mean? O_o"
edit: Completely agreed with Base on the reasons.
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Yes
No (I was more of a lurker, never really thought about registering)
No
Just let the game develop and I'm sure you will be very surprised in the long run.
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On December 14 2010 01:48 Firereaver wrote:
Bad logic imo. So you disagree with the increased money involved in SC2?! Then what do you say about the Korean BW scene where Flash Jaedong and even the Bonjwa's were earning 6-digit incomes... Nada earned approx 500,000 - 600,000$ / year.
Please keep things real!!
You really should read up about the early days of professional Starcraft. Simply naming a few top names in the Korean scene does not mean the majority of people are doing that well off. Compare to the number of B-teamers and courage participants, the number of top players making decent earning is quite small. Yet there is still a large pool of players following the game. In the early days of Starcraft, Boxer did not earn these flashy 500 000 - 600 000$; only small prizes from the few tournaments they were able to win from. If I remember correctly, most progamers lived on ramen 2 meals a day. Why did they not give up? Because they loved the game passionately and cared about their fans. After all, why continue doing something if no one cares about what you do?
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very nice blog - i enjoyed reading it
As far as the content is concerned - I might say that it's also pretty too early to judge the game by now. I mean, indeed SCII isn't flawless at all and maybe not balanced yet, but imo BW wasn't so good and balanced like it is today, when it was released.
I didnt play BW competitive, so I can't say how it actually was and is by now - except for some streams I watch (greetings to npnl.fed0r :D ).
Give Blizzard and SC II some time, I'd suggest, um maybe one or two more years and the Add-Ons, maybe it will turn the tables for BW-Players like you, who really want the old feeling and balance back, as it is right now in BW. And maybe they can transition SCII into BW II, u know.
sorry for bad english, im tired
Kind regards, insta__ =)
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I agree BW is better but I don't think it's beacuse of the money... I just don't like to play the game
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They don't want to get better because they want money? Lmfao!
Do you honestly believe yourself?
This blog is so wrong it's hard to even start somewhere. Go work at McDonalds, you'll make more money than some 'pros' do. If people want money why don't they work?
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On December 14 2010 01:38 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Fill in the blank:
The BW professionals played to make _______?
Epic face rapes.
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On December 14 2010 01:10 Pandain wrote:
I heavily disagree. I play a good amount of SC2, and I watch a decent amount of BW.
Wait, you only watched BW, never played it (good amount), and say that SC2 will exceed BW in due time?
I understand SC2 a bit because I watch it. However, I still can't tell if its going to succeed because I haven't played it to a good amount yet.
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On December 14 2010 02:49 News wrote:
They don't want to get better because they want money? Lmfao!
Do you honestly believe yourself?
This blog is so wrong it's hard to even start somewhere. Go work at McDonalds, you'll make more money than some 'pros' do. If people want money why don't they work?
Good job at an argument. Clearly just saying someone's opinion is wrong without evidence shows you are right
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i feel bad for playing more SC2 than BW nowadays, even though I used to love BW and hate anything that had to do with SC2.... I do hate how most SC2 games are decided by one attack though
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N/Y/meh. I think SC2 will develop. I don't think it's doing particularly good or bad considering the circumstances,. I don't think it will hit the highs that BW did, but I don't think that's set in stone either.
The more money = more all-ins = less enjoyment thing is just so ridiculous I don't know where to start. No one that is truly competitive will play an inferior style whether there is a ton of money on the line or not. The ones that all-in feel it's the best way to win, the ones that don't believe in a different style. You're fooling yourself if you think BW developed the way it did because of some sort of altruistic honor based love of the game crap. It developed the way it did because it was a deep game and it had a bunch of people dedicated to winning. If SC2 proves to be deep it will evolve in a similar way regardless of how much money is thrown around.
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On December 14 2010 02:57 Lightswarm wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 02:49 News wrote:
They don't want to get better because they want money? Lmfao!
Do you honestly believe yourself?
This blog is so wrong it's hard to even start somewhere. Go work at McDonalds, you'll make more money than some 'pros' do. If people want money why don't they work? Good job at an argument. Clearly just saying someone's opinion is wrong without evidence shows you are right
It isn't like the opinion he is responding to was backed with evidence either. This is a very poorly written blog The only thing I see in the OP is a stereotypical "it's not cool now that it's not underground" argument. The guy gives zero evidence for all of his claims, and in doing so asks the reader to create his/her own evidence to fill the gap.
I can think of reasons why I would consider BW a better game to watch and/or play, but I would at least do the justice of backing them up.
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I think you have an interesting point since it is wellknown that overcompensation leads to poorer performance. But seriously, I am not too worried.
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On December 14 2010 03:21 Frozenhelfire wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 02:57 Lightswarm wrote:On December 14 2010 02:49 News wrote:
They don't want to get better because they want money? Lmfao!
Do you honestly believe yourself?
This blog is so wrong it's hard to even start somewhere. Go work at McDonalds, you'll make more money than some 'pros' do. If people want money why don't they work? Good job at an argument. Clearly just saying someone's opinion is wrong without evidence shows you are right It isn't like the opinion he is responding to was backed with evidence either. This is a very poorly written blog The only thing I see in the OP is a stereotypical "it's not cool now that it's not underground" argument. The guy gives zero evidence for all of his claims, and in doing so asks the reader to create his/her own evidence to fill the gap. I can think of reasons why I would consider BW a better game to watch and/or play, but I would at least do the justice of backing them up.
I think you're making a very, very fair criticism. At the same time, I meant to write the way I did.
I made an observation, tossed it out, and wanted to see if resonated with other people. I could have named specific names, and given out precise situations, but then honestly nobody would even read what I said. If they were for the person I called out, they'd say I was dumbass and move on. If they were against the person, I'd be genius.
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On December 14 2010 03:21 Frozenhelfire wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 02:57 Lightswarm wrote:On December 14 2010 02:49 News wrote:
They don't want to get better because they want money? Lmfao!
Do you honestly believe yourself?
This blog is so wrong it's hard to even start somewhere. Go work at McDonalds, you'll make more money than some 'pros' do. If people want money why don't they work? Good job at an argument. Clearly just saying someone's opinion is wrong without evidence shows you are right It isn't like the opinion he is responding to was backed with evidence either. This is a very poorly written blog The only thing I see in the OP is a stereotypical "it's not cool now that it's not underground" argument. The guy gives zero evidence for all of his claims, and in doing so asks the reader to create his/her own evidence to fill the gap. I can think of reasons why I would consider BW a better game to watch and/or play, but I would at least do the justice of backing them up.
Never said OP had great arguments either, but simply saying someone is wrong in that fashion definitely does not help. If you read my earlier post, I did talk slightly about early days of competitive Starcraft.
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How can you say what is better when SC2 is not here even an year ? BW is a big boy, now we have to take care about his sister SC2 to have a beautiful family. God i hate when someone doesnt give a chance to something and is narrow minded. lets see where SC2 will be in 2-3 years. Even BW needed time to became our sweetie. and BW needed a lot of time too.
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I played and watched thousands of hours of BW over the past 8 or so years. That game was almost perfect in my eyes. The strategies, the skill cap, the storylines among the players. About seven or eight months ago I started feeling very lethargic when I reasoned that BW is probably going to die someday, and probably sooner rather than later. But then SC2 came out... and I stopped watching most pro BW and stopped playing BW, and now even though that remorse is still there at least something somewhat decent is going to fill the gap.
Would I have wanted SC2 to be forever postponed to enjoy BW for the rest of my life? I might have been happy with that. Sure, SC2 is a more accessible game with a lower skill cap and more emphasis on build order wins and unit control. It's more fun to play (for me) because I can do almost every action I want to without exerting myself.
But all of those things make it a very abysmal spectating experience compared to BW. I watched soulkey vs sea from a few weeks back and was simply amazed (as always) by the level of play in that game. It's fucking amazing to watch. Especially compared to SC2, and the GSL in particular, where every round we see 80% cheese/1basing nonsense. 80% of the time at least the game ends after a single climactic battle. How is it enjoyable to sit around for 15 minutes to watch two giant armies clash and the loser to tap out? Where is harassment, multiple expansions, dynamic army movement? I miss that shit. Those were staple nail-biting situations in almost every game of pro BW and they're a rarity in SC2.
I've always hoped that eventually SC2 would live up to BW's legacy and be a spectacular watching and playing experience after the game is "figured out". I guess I still hope that. But we'll just have to wait and see.
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Y/Y/Y
and i'm ready to start off with the first bo19 match.
Who wants some?
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On December 14 2010 03:31 -_- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 03:21 Frozenhelfire wrote:On December 14 2010 02:57 Lightswarm wrote:On December 14 2010 02:49 News wrote:
They don't want to get better because they want money? Lmfao!
Do you honestly believe yourself?
This blog is so wrong it's hard to even start somewhere. Go work at McDonalds, you'll make more money than some 'pros' do. If people want money why don't they work? Good job at an argument. Clearly just saying someone's opinion is wrong without evidence shows you are right It isn't like the opinion he is responding to was backed with evidence either. This is a very poorly written blog The only thing I see in the OP is a stereotypical "it's not cool now that it's not underground" argument. The guy gives zero evidence for all of his claims, and in doing so asks the reader to create his/her own evidence to fill the gap. I can think of reasons why I would consider BW a better game to watch and/or play, but I would at least do the justice of backing them up. I think you're making a very, very fair criticism. At the same time, I meant to write the way I did. I made an observation, tossed it out, and wanted to see if resonated with other people. I could have named specific names, and given out precise situations, but then honestly nobody would even read what I said. If they were for the person I called out, they'd say I was dumbass and move on. If they were against the person, I'd be genius.
While I can see reasons for tossing an idea out (not as in throw away), I personally don't like doing this. You can toss incorrect ideas out and people will agree with you. Furthermore, a well thought out and supported idea can make the overall discussion much deeper. Some of the people that this blog resonate with don't even believe it, "they have a hunch, but can't really put a reason on it". I don't speak for everyone, but I would have loved to see some names. Some coaches are in it to do what they love to make a living, others probably don't share such "high/good" intentions. In the process of pointing this out, just don't forget that BW had its combat-ex's too.
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but there was only one combat ex.
now there are thousands.....
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On December 14 2010 01:38 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Fill in the blank:
The BW professionals played to make _______?
babies?
foreigners sad?
oh... money
To answer questions YN yes, but they'll be resolved.
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On December 14 2010 04:02 Ramiel wrote:
but there was only one combat ex.
now there are thousands.....
lololololololol. So true.
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Ok, so reading through people's answers I'm amazed at how many claim they were here before there was any hint of sc2.
Because many, if not most, of these people have join dates after May 2007, which is when sc2 was announced.
Did yall get banned or just switch usernames or something? =P
Personally, Y/N (lurked)/Y but I think lots of SC2's big problems can be fixed by maps. Also, I have no problem playing a game that isn't perfect as long as it's fun.
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On December 14 2010 04:37 wrestlingfool08 wrote:
Very weak argument imo.
posts like these make my day
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I still play BW. Fuck SC2. WHERE IS DIABLO 3 !?
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On December 14 2010 03:44 NIIINO wrote:
How can you say what is better when SC2 is not here even an year ? BW is a big boy, now we have to take care about his sister SC2 to have a beautiful family. God i hate when someone doesnt give a chance to something and is narrow minded. lets see where SC2 will be in 2-3 years. Even BW needed time to became our sweetie. and BW needed a lot of time too.
idc if sc2 is better to some people, if BW is better to some people, or you have no opinion, but I'm getting sick of these posts more than anything.
just saying, this is my opinion (and the opinion of a few others). SC2 rode on the success of BW. after seven to ten years, brood war became the most structured e-Sports (clarify me if I'm wrong). then blizzard announced SC2. OBVIOUSLY people believed sc2 would be the shit, the successor to BW, etc. TBH, broodwar was fun to watch even in '00 (yes, I watched bw since I was 6 -__-). with the success of bw riding on SC2's shoulders, no wonder people are disappointed at SC2's quality right now.
maybe it is the money, maybe it is the fact that all ins are too powerful right now, but some people can't really agree with the way SC2 is heading right now. why don't YOU stop being "narrow-minded" and actually realize what some of our opinions are. many of us bw advocates, including me, have TRIED and watched sc2. guess what? we didn't like it.
/endrant
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+ Show Spoiler +disclaimer : the only reason i don't like sc2 is because the core units are too... slow...
edit - Y/N/N to OP's questions
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Y/Y/Y
A game catered to casuals specifically for corporate profit will never reach the same height BW once did.
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But I'm ashamed to admit, because all of my friends who used to only play stuff like dota now play sc2, I definitely stopped BW in favor of 2v2/3v3/4v4 in sc2...
:'(
Accessibility and popularity.. just killer man.
On December 14 2010 01:54 Saechiis wrote:
Why are people so insistent in proving BW was better?
First of all it doesn't matter, BW is on it's way out and SC2 is looking to fill the void and hopefully some eSports importance around the world.
Secondly, why do people expect the same depth in a new game as a 12 year old game has? The game is still being figured out, patches still change gameplay on a monthly basis and that's not even considering the two expansions that are on their way. There isn't even standard builds yet.
First of all, it matters a lot because BW wouldn't be on it's way out of people like you just realized that it's stupid to throw away the better game.
Secondly, this is probably the dumbest, and most common statement on teamliquid. In fact, you probably already know how I will respond to this because literally almost every sc2 thread has this argument over and over again
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Do high prizes in tennis make people do 'boring' things like focusing on serving aces all day?
Well, some people do; but only because that's what they're naturally good at.
If the best strategy for winning is to do something really stupid, it's a problem with the medium of competition, not the prize. Federer and Nadal are racking up the millions, not whoever that Slavic guy was that served a billion miles per hour.
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Another stupid bw vs sc2 thread. Enjoy both games. The end.
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I wish there was a way to give negative stars.
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>_>..
1) No for the first because i dont have a strong intent to get better, but to have fun. and by all means is BW more fun than SC2.
2) I joined pretty late but i had a passion to play melee like a real korean!
3) PROBLEM WITH SC2 -> its not as fun..
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Sorry but we're all sick of BW vs SC2 threads.
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