EPTOn November 04 2010 14:37 toadstool wrote:
The only SC legends right now in sc2 are Nada and Boxer.
The only SC legends right now in sc2 are Nada and Boxer.
Legends ? Hardly.
Most hyped ? Sure are.
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TeamSoliduss
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Legends ? Hardly. Most hyped ? Sure are. | ||
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KaoReal
Canada340 Posts
On November 04 2010 14:40 TeamSoliduss wrote: Legends ? Hardly. Most hyped ? Sure are. You obviously showed up to the BW scene late... or you're a troll. Boxer pretty much invented BW | ||
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
On November 04 2010 14:24 TeamSoliduss wrote: All you guys talk about is sentries being used defensively. You have the most cost-effective units in the game for chrissakes. Use sentries OFFENSIVELY. For instance, 4 sentries & a few zealots vs a bunkering terran = GG. One guardian shield and a few forcefield behind his wall will prevent him from attacking you, giving you ample time to trash whatever building he used to wall and have a free-for-all killfest a few seconds later. Haven't seen many people use that ? Why ? It's almost a sure-fire way of winning even against a competent opponent since they can't do jack to prevent you from doing it. Sentries were used as an offensive unit until patch 11 changed that. | ||
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Slakter
Sweden1947 Posts
On November 04 2010 14:40 TeamSoliduss wrote: Legends ? Hardly. Most hyped ? Sure are. Are you trolling? | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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KaoReal
Canada340 Posts
On November 04 2010 14:30 0mar wrote: You don't outright lose the game if you mis-stim or miss an injection. Protoss outright loses if their FF is half a second late or improperly placed. There's a big difference. You can theoretically make up a mis-stim or miss an injection through different mechanisms (eg retreating in the case of a mis-stim, make more hatches for more macro). This "theoretically" doesn't work against good opponents. They will punish your wounded infantry, and you can either fight without stim or stim yourself to near death. Same goes for a missed inject; there will be a window where you just won't have the units that you should, and you will get punished. Protoss doesn't lose outright on a botched forcefield either, it must be punished. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On November 04 2010 14:37 toadstool wrote: I was referring to an earlier post saying that Protoss in SC2 sucked because the top Protoss pros weren't good and that Terrans had the best Pros because it was full of legends and champions. The only SC legends right now in sc2 are Nada and Boxer. JulyZerg is fixin' to eat you for breakfast, bro. | ||
Piledriver
United States1697 Posts
On November 04 2010 14:40 TeamSoliduss wrote: Legends ? Hardly. Most hyped ? Sure are. You sir, win the award for the most retarded post of the century. Nada and BoXeR not SC legends? LOL.. Whats next? Mohammad Ali is not a boxing legend? Carl Lewis not an athletics legend? GTFO these forums...seriously I think toss early game can't be outright buffed without messing with PvZ balance. PvZ is perfectly balanced now IMHO, but any buff to gateway units will once again lead to 4 gate dominance vs zerg. IMHO if any buff has to come, it has to be more in the form of a robot buff (maybe immortal slightly buffed vs light units?), or gas cost reduction of stalker. Reducing gas cost of stalker would indirectly help toss by allowing them to open their tech paths much more quickly. Just a wierd idea :/. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On November 04 2010 14:49 Piledriver wrote: You sir, win the award for the most retarded post of the century. Nada and BoXeR not SC legends? LOL.. Whats next? Mohammad Ali is not a boxing legend? Carl Lewis not an athletics legend? GTFO these forums...seriously I think toss early game can't be outright buffed without messing with PvZ balance. PvZ is perfectly balanced now IMHO, but any buff to gateway units will once again lead to 4 gate dominance vs zerg. IMHO if any buff has to come, it has to be more in the form of a robot buff (maybe immortal slightly buffed?), or gas cost reduction of stalker. Reducing gas cost of stalker would indirectly help toss by allowing them to open their tech paths much more quickly. Just a wierd idea :/. Maybe he meant that they were hardly the only legends in SC2 from SC, but out of all the legends they are the most hyped. I hope that's what he means. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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Moragon
United States355 Posts
On November 04 2010 13:43 Jibba wrote: How about infusing a hatchery instead of injecting? Or pressing ESC when FEing? Every race can trip up on minor issues, the best Ps have just been tripping over themselves during their big matches. Most of the time, there's a correct decision available and they're simply not taking it. You can only make one tech decision in most games as protoss, you are forced to say I hope this is correct! Its not terran where you go "oh no a colossi, swap starport reactor, pump vikings out 2 at a time", or "oh no mass stalkers, swap tech lab to barracks, pump marauders", or "oh no immortals, swap reactor to rax, start pumping marines". Instead its "lets go warpgates and tech into leg speed or blink, oh crap banshees, just give me 2 minutes to get a robo and observer, and please dont kill the pylons powering it!" or "alright, playing it safe, ive got the robo and observer, oh crap hes going spire, give me 5 minutes to build a stargate and pump enough phoenix to defend, or 3 minutes to build a twilight, research blink, and turtle in my base for the rest of the game!" Sure sometimes as protoss you make the correct decision but if you dont you are screwed. | ||
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john0507
164 Posts
On November 04 2010 14:52 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Obviously Koreans are bad at protoss and when Huk goes to Korea and drags Tyler and his wife with him they will bring the pride back to Auir. I hope you're not serious, cos both of them would find it hard even qualifying, let alone bring pride to anything | ||
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
On November 04 2010 14:24 TeamSoliduss wrote: All you guys talk about is sentries being used defensively. You have the most cost-effective units in the game for chrissakes. Use sentries OFFENSIVELY. For instance, 4 sentries & a few zealots vs a bunkering terran = GG. One guardian shield and a few forcefield behind his wall will prevent him from attacking you, giving you ample time to trash whatever building he used to wall and have a free-for-all killfest a few seconds later. Haven't seen many people use that ? Why ? It's almost a sure-fire way of winning even against a competent opponent since they can't do jack to prevent you from doing it. - | ||
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toadstool
Australia421 Posts
On November 04 2010 14:48 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: JulyZerg is fixin' to eat you for breakfast, bro. Forgot about JulyZerg. So disappointed when he didn't qualify. | ||
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toadstool
Australia421 Posts
Hey guys! OMG we've been playing Protoss wrong! Give this guy a medal! | ||
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Cloak
United States816 Posts
On November 02 2010 03:46 Fym wrote: I think that a new selection of maps would be nice to help everyone get a second opinion if any race is underpowered or overpowered. I think only regular seasons with different maps in each season and the statistics following it would help. Honestly though, what map elements can Protoss exploit that Terran can't exploit even better? | ||
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Hellye
Portugal62 Posts
On November 04 2010 14:47 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Why is protoss doing so well against Idra? Cause he went all in! Listen to state of the game. He took advantage of a good timming attack that idra wasnt aware it existed ( wasnt prepared ). | ||
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AyJay
1515 Posts
On November 04 2010 14:40 TeamSoliduss wrote: Legends ? Hardly. Most hyped ? Sure are. Either your trolling or fucking idiot. Look them up on liquipedia if you have no idea who they are. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
In a recent game against fantasy, Snow made Reavers, DTs, HTs, Arbiters, and Carriers. When was the last time you saw a Protoss make that many T2+ units in SC2? | ||
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dbizzle
United States395 Posts
As for GSL, I watched all the protoss matches, and only a few games where the protoss went standard robo colossi build. Everyone tried doing DT, VR play, which I don't get why people are trying fancy builds as every solid top player are doing standard builds. PvP is a killer too, the main reason i switched from P to Z, I hate pvp with a passion and its pretty lame. Overall I think bigger maps is the key for Protoss for doing better. | ||
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