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Buddhist
Profile Joined April 2010
United States658 Posts
October 27 2010 11:44 GMT
#61
On October 27 2010 16:54 Dooba wrote:
While i completely agree with the girl and her reasoning, i fail to see why the fuck this should get any attention at all. Alright, you got kicked out of the cheer leading team. The school is an asshole. Nothing really bad happened to you this time, nothing life changing (like rape definitely is). So just go on with your life... Not like cheer leading is going to make you a living.

No reason for the media to blow this thing out of proportion. My 2 cents.

This
On October 27 2010 16:56 CurLy[] wrote:
Yeah that lawsuit had no grounds and was correct.

It is pretty ridiculous that the kid wasn't expelled from school though, and even more so that he was allowed back on the team. He better be the next lebron james or something is real messed up

And this.

No one seems to understand what freedom of speech actually means.

You don't have a right to be part of a school's cheerleading team. No one is violating your rights by kicking you out of a cheerleading team for any reason.
SC2Syndicate
Profile Joined September 2010
United States134 Posts
October 27 2010 11:49 GMT
#62
With this type of publicism the administration will probably be knocked hard.
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Hans-Titan
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Denmark1711 Posts
October 27 2010 12:00 GMT
#63
As liberal as I am with regards to punishment, I still don't see how you can rape someone and not do time, let alone return to the school at which your victim is a student.

Messed up, just messed up. Hopefully this media attention will help justice be served.
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Number41
Profile Joined August 2008
United States130 Posts
October 27 2010 12:05 GMT
#64
I'd add something more substantive, however I don't have enough time to comment.

http://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/unpub/09/09-41075.0.wpd.pdf
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
October 27 2010 13:38 GMT
#65
The thing is, while cheerleading and homecoming arent the most important things in the world, its the fact that she has to make accomodations and changes to her life, while her assaulter can just keep on living his life like nothing ever happened. The victim gets the social punishment here, not the assailant which is mind boggling and just retarded.

Unfortunately a very common thing even here in Sweden, we hear reports atleast once a month about bullies doing very extreme things borderline assault and the reprecusions for the bullies are 0 while the victim has to move, change school etc. The bottom line is the victim is getting 0 support while the assailant seems to get all the rights of the law, while it should be the other way around.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
October 27 2010 13:41 GMT
#66
Why the hell is that kid still on the team? Criminals don't belong on sports teams, especially high school teams.
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-27 13:47:10
October 27 2010 13:44 GMT
#67
as sad as this is the headline made me laugh, like c'mon, just read it out loud, it's more ridiculous then upsetting.
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Rawenkeke
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway350 Posts
October 27 2010 13:48 GMT
#68
That's 'MERICA right there for you
johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
October 27 2010 13:49 GMT
#69
What does it take for him to be put on the sex offender registry?
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
October 27 2010 13:57 GMT
#70
Wow, this is a HS kid as well... I fail to see how he has managed to get out of so much trouble without any jail time. This must be one of those towns that rely on their sport teams for so much... Where the players can do whatever they want and experience no consequences.
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10or10
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden517 Posts
October 27 2010 14:06 GMT
#71
On October 27 2010 22:48 Rawenkeke wrote:
That's 'MERICA right there for you

Basicly the same thing happened in Sweden but there it was a graduation at a church were the rapist were saluted, whilst the girl had to move because the whole community supported the rapist (despite him being convicted twice (tingsrätt and hovrätt) for child rape, they thought he was innocent). And after the event he raped another girl.
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junemermaid
Profile Joined September 2006
United States981 Posts
October 27 2010 14:41 GMT
#72
Shitty decision, but its the right one by law and so it had to be enforced. Also, I don't think it is in the girls best interest to attend the same events of her rapist. That's just not healthy. She shouldn't have put herself in that situation because now she has a constant reminder of what happened (she would mentally attach not being on the cheerleading squad to her rapist). If she was really passionate about cheerleading, this can be pretty damaging to her self-esteem
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cowpies
Profile Joined April 2010
United States43 Posts
October 27 2010 14:41 GMT
#73
So much derp in this thread. He was charged with Class A assault. Unfortunately, they were unable to prove he raped her (STOP ASSUMING HE DID) and so the school should not treat him as if he raped her. While it is unfortunate if he did, there is no logical reason to punish someone simply because of something they were not proven to have done. The only problem I see here is that he isn't on some type of social suspension or something for the assault he was proven guilty of. I understand why the girl would not want to cheer for him, but unfortunately she is going to have to when she is participating in an organization that is supposed to cheer for the team. If you refuse to play your sport when you are on a sports team, they are gonna kick you off the team.
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
October 27 2010 14:44 GMT
#74
On October 27 2010 19:45 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2010 19:43 jacen wrote:
What? The felon got back on the team?
WHAT?
He better throw many 3pts the next season to justify this ...


he plays football

finally someone worrying about the real issue! it annoyed me too.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-27 14:45:47
October 27 2010 14:44 GMT
#75
On October 27 2010 23:41 junemermaid wrote:
Shitty decision, but its the right one by law and so it had to be enforced. Also, I don't think it is in the girls best interest to attend the same events of her rapist. That's just not healthy. She shouldn't have put herself in that situation because now she has a constant reminder of what happened (she would mentally attach not being on the cheerleading squad to her rapist). If she was really passionate about cheerleading, this can be pretty damaging to her self-esteem


You're okay with a convicted felon playing for a high school football team?

Edit: Wait, it's football? Then no one should be surprised. Football in Texas is as important as God.
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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10831 Posts
October 27 2010 14:48 GMT
#76
Yes, he was shooting free-throws for the football team.
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
October 27 2010 14:48 GMT
#77
If he didn't rape her, it's only because people interrupted him when they tried to get into the room. Why do you think they jumped out the window naked? They didn't attack a girl in a locked room and take off their clothes to NOT rape her.

The fact that the school is favoring him because he's a star athlete only goes to show how fucked up American culture is with it's sports worship.
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
October 27 2010 14:48 GMT
#78
On October 27 2010 23:44 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2010 23:41 junemermaid wrote:
Shitty decision, but its the right one by law and so it had to be enforced. Also, I don't think it is in the girls best interest to attend the same events of her rapist. That's just not healthy. She shouldn't have put herself in that situation because now she has a constant reminder of what happened (she would mentally attach not being on the cheerleading squad to her rapist). If she was really passionate about cheerleading, this can be pretty damaging to her self-esteem


You're okay with a convicted felon playing for a high school football team?

at the point he was playing, he hadn't been convicted, it had gone to court and been thrown out.
(source: the OP!)

basically, this is one of the unfortunate byproducts of a legal system where people are assumed innocent until proven guilty..

what if it had turned out that she had made it up? should schools expel all accused rapists as soon as anything is said? obviously, once proven guilty i hope there were serious consequences.
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
October 27 2010 14:50 GMT
#79
wow thats just wrong... but a felon allowed back into school? that shouldnt happen
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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
October 27 2010 14:50 GMT
#80
On October 27 2010 23:48 kerpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2010 23:44 Ferrose wrote:
On October 27 2010 23:41 junemermaid wrote:
Shitty decision, but its the right one by law and so it had to be enforced. Also, I don't think it is in the girls best interest to attend the same events of her rapist. That's just not healthy. She shouldn't have put herself in that situation because now she has a constant reminder of what happened (she would mentally attach not being on the cheerleading squad to her rapist). If she was really passionate about cheerleading, this can be pretty damaging to her self-esteem


You're okay with a convicted felon playing for a high school football team?

at the point he was playing, he hadn't been convicted, it had gone to court and been thrown out.
(source: the OP!)

basically, this is one of the unfortunate byproducts of a legal system where people are assumed innocent until proven guilty..

what if it had turned out that she had made it up? should schools expel all accused rapists as soon as anything is said? obviously, once proven guilty i hope there were serious consequences.


"In September 2010, Bolton pled guilty to a lesser charge of Class A Assault and was sentenced to one year in prison, a sentence that was suspended by the judge in lieu of two years probation, a $2,500 fine, community service and an anger management course."

That was from the OP too. A year prison sentence is definitely a felony. Rape or no, that kid should not be playing high school sports.
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