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On October 27 2010 23:41 junemermaid wrote:
Shitty decision, but its the right one by law and so it had to be enforced. Also, I don't think it is in the girls best interest to attend the same events of her rapist. That's just not healthy. She shouldn't have put herself in that situation because now she has a constant reminder of what happened (she would mentally attach not being on the cheerleading squad to her rapist). If she was really passionate about cheerleading, this can be pretty damaging to her self-esteem
This has already been mentioned, but why does the girl have to change the way she lived while the rapist gets let off the hook? I'm not nearly as bothered by her being kicked off the cheerleading squad as I am by the school letting the rapist back in with no punishment. It's mind boggling that the girl has to make special accommodations for being raped. It's like the school's saying "Hey, I know you got raped, but we'd really appreciate it if you went through the trouble of moving away from here, cuz we really need this rapist on our team to win some games and your presence doesn't really help our team."
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On October 27 2010 16:44 Phaint wrote:Show nested quote +
Bolton had been allowed back on campus during a brief period when one grand jury withdrew the charges before another grand jury reinstated them. During a basketball game, H.S. cheered for the entire team but refused to cheer “Rakheem” during his free-throws, so she was off the squad.
i actually worried here that i was misreading the OP with so many people talking about a convicted felon in schools...
shall i break it down for you?
Bolton had been allowed back on campus
read: Bolton had been banned from the campus, why? because there were legal charges against him.. he hadn't even been convicted at this point.
one grand jury withdrew the charges
and as far as the school might have known, that could have been the end of it. this guy might have been innocent
before another grand jury reinstated them
looking back.. what was before the charges were reinstated? Bolton being allowed on campus. so when the charges were reinstated.. he was again banned from the campus...
for anyone who read this far and feels outraged at the injustice of him being allowed in school while neither proven guilty nor indeed charged with anything..
In September 2010, Bolton pled guilty to a lesser charge of Class A Assault and was sentenced to one year in prison, a sentence that was suspended by the judge in lieu of two years probation, a $2,500 fine, community service and an anger management course.
he get's what's legally coming to him in the end.
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On October 27 2010 17:36 Microlisk wrote:
Could be worse, we could have invented hentai tentacle porn.
And how is that bad? It's just cartoons...
Just not to be off-topic, I think every rapist should either get chemicaly castrated forever and jailed for some time, or just be jailed forever.
Now, before I get accused of human rights infringement thinking, let me say I support rehabilitation and giving second chances except to rapists and murders. Both crimes display such a huge lack of empathy that I can't believe in such a person living properly in society. Crimes are a huge deal, but those two crimes are not an attempt on virtual property or social reputation, but on physical integrity. The only thing that makes us different to animals is that we don't rely on direct physical aggression to survive or make our way.
And now I just went off-topic. I apologize. However, I think she wouldn't mind supporting a virtual eunuch.
And if we talk in real terms, yes obviously that guy should not be even allowed to be in the area she lives in the first place. This is just outrageous.
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On October 27 2010 16:56 Sephy69 wrote:
LOL another reason for me to hate sports.
LOL YAEH
Idiots just running around in circles...
Sports is so dumb LOL!
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On October 27 2010 23:50 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 23:48 kerpal wrote:On October 27 2010 23:44 Ferrose wrote:On October 27 2010 23:41 junemermaid wrote:
Shitty decision, but its the right one by law and so it had to be enforced. Also, I don't think it is in the girls best interest to attend the same events of her rapist. That's just not healthy. She shouldn't have put herself in that situation because now she has a constant reminder of what happened (she would mentally attach not being on the cheerleading squad to her rapist). If she was really passionate about cheerleading, this can be pretty damaging to her self-esteem You're okay with a convicted felon playing for a high school football team? at the point he was playing, he hadn't been convicted, it had gone to court and been thrown out. (source: the OP!) basically, this is one of the unfortunate byproducts of a legal system where people are assumed innocent until proven guilty.. what if it had turned out that she had made it up? should schools expel all accused rapists as soon as anything is said? obviously, once proven guilty i hope there were serious consequences. "In September 2010, Bolton pled guilty to a lesser charge of Class A Assault and was sentenced to one year in prison, a sentence that was suspended by the judge in lieu of two years probation, a $2,500 fine, community service and an anger management course." That was from the OP too. A year prison sentence is definitely a felony. Rape or no, that kid should not be playing high school sports.
the OP tells the story (as far as i can tell) out of chronological order. he was only allowed on campus during the time that he was not charged with anything, so there's no way he could have been playing for the team.
i totally agree. he should not be playing highschool sports.. and he isn't. but when he was it was during a period where he was not charged with anything.
now he's presumably in jail. definitely not playing highschool sports.
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On October 28 2010 00:03 kerpal wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 23:50 Ferrose wrote:On October 27 2010 23:48 kerpal wrote:On October 27 2010 23:44 Ferrose wrote:On October 27 2010 23:41 junemermaid wrote:
Shitty decision, but its the right one by law and so it had to be enforced. Also, I don't think it is in the girls best interest to attend the same events of her rapist. That's just not healthy. She shouldn't have put herself in that situation because now she has a constant reminder of what happened (she would mentally attach not being on the cheerleading squad to her rapist). If she was really passionate about cheerleading, this can be pretty damaging to her self-esteem You're okay with a convicted felon playing for a high school football team? at the point he was playing, he hadn't been convicted, it had gone to court and been thrown out. (source: the OP!) basically, this is one of the unfortunate byproducts of a legal system where people are assumed innocent until proven guilty.. what if it had turned out that she had made it up? should schools expel all accused rapists as soon as anything is said? obviously, once proven guilty i hope there were serious consequences. "In September 2010, Bolton pled guilty to a lesser charge of Class A Assault and was sentenced to one year in prison, a sentence that was suspended by the judge in lieu of two years probation, a $2,500 fine, community service and an anger management course." That was from the OP too. A year prison sentence is definitely a felony. Rape or no, that kid should not be playing high school sports. the OP tells the story (as far as i can tell) out of chronological order. he was only allowed on campus during the time that he was not charged with anything, so there's no way he could have been playing for the team. i totally agree. he should not be playing highschool sports.. and he isn't. but when he was it was during a period where he was not charged with anything. now he's presumably in jail. definitely not playing highschool sports.
I'm pretty sure it means he is on probation for 2 years, and if he screws up he gets one year in jail.
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oh, sorry, my bad. but presumably if the school suspended him just for it going to court he's not playing sport there anymore
EDIT: presumably there are more words out there than just prosumably... not sure why i keep use it as presumably there are even words which fit more precisely the meaning i'm trying to convey
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That's a byproduct of the stupid jock culture infesting many parts of America. Athletes are normally so above the law they can easily plead guilty to joke, lesser charges. This dude essentially got the same sentence Savior did...
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On October 27 2010 16:56 Vz0 wrote:
I agree completely with the judge on te last case. Please tell me why in the FuCK would you stay in the same school as your rapist, never mind cheering for his team... Heck I'd move city or even country.
You'd just pack up your whole life and move? Just like that? Give up all your old friends, home, enroll elsewhere, and hope your parents can find work in your new home so quickly?
Sigh... news like this is all too common. Star athlete assaults someone, and pretty soon people are yelling at the victim. The school telling the VICTIM to lay low and avoid attention is just... mind boggling. Don't come to homecoming, avoid the cafeteria... wow...
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This guy better be really good or something is seriously messed up. i can't see how he got away with that and he was even allowed back into that school.
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On October 28 2010 00:31 BloodDrunK wrote:
This guy better be really good or something is seriously messed up. i can't see how he got away with that and he was even allowed back into that school.
Really? So athletic ability *should* put someone above the law?
I don't care how fucking incredible you are at a game, you and your friend can't assault a 16 year old girl.
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On October 28 2010 00:24 Haemonculus wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 16:56 Vz0 wrote:
I agree completely with the judge on te last case. Please tell me why in the FuCK would you stay in the same school as your rapist, never mind cheering for his team... Heck I'd move city or even country. You'd just pack up your whole life and move? Just like that? Give up all your old friends, home, enroll elsewhere, and hope your parents can find work in your new home so quickly? Sigh... news like this is all too common. Star athlete assaults someone, and pretty soon people are yelling at the victim. The school telling the VICTIM to lay low and avoid attention is just... mind boggling. Don't come to homecoming, avoid the cafeteria... wow...
Or they say the victim wanted attention. Which is just as bad -_-
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Where I come from, people like that get a 2nd chance with the Yellow Ribbon project. He deserves to be in jail and stay in jail. A probation in lieu of the 1 year sentence is way too light considering he actually sexually assaulted the girl, assaulted people and threatened to kill the homeowners.
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I would really like to see the national news picking up on this. If the story as told on the blog holds then I hope ppl start to rage against that school.
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On October 27 2010 16:47 Disarray wrote:
technically its correct, however I fail to see how the fuck a felon would be allowed back at the same school
100% agree, although that shit is pretty fucked up.
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He was only TEMPORARILY allowed back in school once charges were dropped. Once the 2nd Grand Jury started prosecuting him he wasn't allowed back.
I wish the OP would bold that line. 80% of posters are talking about how he was allowed back into the school.
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Question: When one is convicted of a felony, why should their victim lose their right to lead a self-directed life? The entire purpose of the justice system, in an ideal world, is to punish criminals by limiting their rights and freedom. I cannot possibly understand why in a dispute between a victim and a criminal, the victim is asked to give up their freedom. Essentially, thats the case here, this girl had to give up her right to self-directed life for an individual who already sacrificed this right, both ethically and legally.
If you can state that it was ethically/legally right for her to have stepped down, then I fear the justice system is doomed. Those of you that state she SHOULD have stepped down anyway, just deal with it, are really over-simplifying a more complex issue. If the roles were reversed, you would NEVER give up your rights for those of a criminal, let alone the man who made you a victim.
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I don't think you guys understand. This man plays football. Do you know what that means in Texas? He might as well be wrapped in the flag with the Ten Commandments tattooed onto his forehead. Football athletes contribute so much to our society - football, their dashing good looks, more football. What do rape victims contribute? Nothing. They just cost society money when they think they're entitled to such things as a "trial" and "rape victim counseling" (damn entitlements!).
But seriously, "he had not been convicted of anything yet!" is not a valid argument for why he was still allowed to be on the team, much less even remain at the school. Do you know what happens to, say, a teacher who gets charged with molestation or a doctor who gets charged with rape? Forget if they actually did it or not, they lose their jobs, even if the trial ends in their favor and they get to keep their licenses, their reputation is forever tarnished and they're never going to get a job in that field again. People lose their jobs everyday over false allegations (or even threats of false allegations) and there are countless people who served prison terms or are serving prison terms right now for rape that later DNA evidence exonerates them of. This silly favoritism we have in the US towards athletes is ludicrous and disgusting. And it doesn't even end at leniency towards the perpetrators - now we're punishing the victim? "Don't go to homecoming"? That is just sickening.
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If he isn't convicted doesn't that make him innocent? So basically he may not even raped her and she is mad at him for having sex with her and then dumping her and not wanting to cheer for him.
If there is more information about the legal processes and verdicts I would like to re-examine my view, but really who can tell if she really got raped or not, especially if the court overthrown his charges of rape.
It may not be the most humane thing to do, to throw the girl out of the cheerleading team for not cheering her possible rapist, but its not against the law.
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On October 27 2010 16:47 Disarray wrote:
technically its correct, however I fail to see how the fuck a felon would be allowed back at the same school
Ding Ding.
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