EPTWell, my major is Material Science and Engineering.
Hobbies include E-Sports in resume.
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bonedriven
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Well, my major is Material Science and Engineering. | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
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eLiE
Canada1039 Posts
On October 24 2010 14:07 Bosu wrote: If it is relevant to the job then probably. If it isn't relevant the the job then why would you put it on your resume. resumes and applications often have spots where you include personal hobbies/interests | ||
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bonedriven
258 Posts
On October 24 2010 14:07 Bosu wrote: If it is relevant to the job then probably. If it isn't relevant the the job then why would you put it on your resume. But most hobbies are irrelevant to the job. I think it kinda shows personality etc. | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
I wouldn't put it on any resume except if it is actually for a video game company, simply because a lot of people don't think favorably of video games | ||
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SoLaR[i.C]
United States2969 Posts
I'd leave it out. | ||
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NadaSound
United States227 Posts
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AeroGear
Canada652 Posts
Sports, outdoors, travel, etc. Its a bit different for people who work in arts, game design and such, they are a lot more laid back. | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36379 Posts
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ragnasaur
United States804 Posts
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KaRnaGe[cF]
United States355 Posts
Unless it pertains specifically to your job i would leave it out since this is a career you are talking about and keep with more generally accepted hobbies. Thats just what i would do though  Good Luck! | ||
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bonedriven
258 Posts
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Autobeat
United States53 Posts
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IsKas
Canada23 Posts
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Autobeat
United States53 Posts
just be safe and leave it out, you dont want to risk anything. Sums it up perfectly. I type too much...... | ||
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Ludrik
Australia523 Posts
I wouldn't include e-sports unless it is for a job where you are either selling games or doing something IT related. | ||
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SchAmToo
United States1141 Posts
If anything, but like..."Reading, swimming, rubicks cube" or something | ||
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chaokel
Australia535 Posts
On a more serious note i don't think that it would hurt in most cases, as games are becoming more and more acceptable as of late. | ||
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hazelynut
United States2195 Posts
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rredtooth
5461 Posts
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NIIINO
Slovakia1320 Posts
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Simplistik
2093 Posts
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jodogohoo
Canada2533 Posts
On October 24 2010 15:13 chaokel wrote: Don't forget to put down your point rating. On a more serious note i don't think that it would hurt in most cases, as games are becoming more and more acceptable as of late. i put my iccup rank on EVERYTHING. You know where it says date? i put my iccup rank there. people are like, "wtf does D- mean?" | ||
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rredtooth
5461 Posts
On October 24 2010 15:20 NIIINO wrote: considering korea's super-conservative culture (especially regarding middle-aged people and the business world), i don't think it's a good idea to put in "gaming" as a hobby.in china yea, in korea Hell YEA ! in another countries dont think so | ||
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
claim you're christian if you know the interviewer is a gentile... | ||
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toadstool
Australia421 Posts
On October 24 2010 14:09 eLiE wrote: probably better suited for blogs. idk about what videogames look like in china, but a lot of people consider them a childish waste of time. depending on the employer, they may look down on it. i personally wouldn't. resumes and applications often have spots where you include personal hobbies/interests The purpose of a resume is to get you a job. Your whole resume should be manufactured and engineered to land you that crucial first interview. So I guess it depends on the position you're applying for. Even the hobbies/interests section is supposed to show you in a favorable light according to the job. I mean, I wouldn't put "Eating 3 hotdogs in 2 minutes" in my Hobbies/Interests (unless I'm applying for a job as a competitive eater, I'd put 6 lines about it or something). | ||
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seppolevne
Canada1681 Posts
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nennx
United States310 Posts
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dudeman001
United States2412 Posts
If adding ESPORTS can someone highlight one of your strengths or something you can contribute to the company, go right on ahead. Include it under activities if you're involved in it or interests if its just an interest. An interviewer will probably ask you about it, and then you get so talk about something you're really passionate about and the interviewer will see that. I myself include Starcraft under interests because its something I love, and I can relate that to having to make quick split second decisions and multitasking. Yeah it's a video game, but I can still showcase traits a company might really be looking for. So like I said, if it somehow showcases one of your stronger qualities or skills, go for it. And yeah, it lets your employer know more about you and who you are. | ||
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dignity
Canada908 Posts
If the employer already knows you play video games as a hobby, put it down. It will show that you are honest. Do not, however, just put video games as it will make you seem kind of one dimensional. If not, check if the employer himself plays video games. If possible, ask employees on how the boss views video games and his mentality behind it. Choose accordingly from there. On a side note, I think people avoiding putting gaming as a hobby is part of the reason why people have an aversion to it in the business world. If more people are open about their gaming hobbies, people will start to accept it over time. Just to be safe though, if you do not want to look like a martyr for the gaming society, leave it out of your resumes. | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
On October 24 2010 15:34 seppolevne wrote: Interests: "Professional Gaming" That could mean gambling in some texts... | ||
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Electric.Jesus
Germany755 Posts
Bottom line is, the skill set you require to be a good starcraft player is one that you will benefit from in real life decision making, too, so it might not be that bad for a resume. Also, if a company does not invite you to an interview because you hobby is playing starcraft, you probabyl would not want to work for that compnay, aynway. | ||
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Siffer
United States467 Posts
Usually that always gets brought up in interviews. I explain that my decisions could impact the success of the team, and I often had to make decisive decisions on the fly. It shows leadership and team work. 5 years ago, I think putting gaming related achievements/interests could negatively impact a resume; however, I think in 2010 it could help if displayed the correct way. | ||
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
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cronican
Canada424 Posts
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rredtooth
5461 Posts
On October 24 2010 16:25 nalgene wrote: That could mean gambling in some texts...  professional gaming | ||
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Herculix
United States946 Posts
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dinmsab
Malaysia2246 Posts
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RA
Latvia791 Posts
If you want to position yourself openly and can rationally explain that if asked - do it. If you don't want to risk it thinking that someone might ignore your CV just because of that - then don't. I usually wrote - sports, music and videos. Had many people judge my CV and everyone said - do not go into details, ever. I remember I was once in a Swedish bank at job interview and the two female bosses really asked alot of my WC3 WCG thing. | ||
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Aegeis
United States1619 Posts
On October 24 2010 16:52 Siffer wrote: Put it on your resume if you can paint it to make you look good. For example, for 2 years I was a strat caller for a CS 1.6 team which performed well. On my resume I have "Former leader and strategy caller for a successful counter-strike team." Usually that always gets brought up in interviews. I explain that my decisions could impact the success of the team, and I often had to make decisive decisions on the fly. It shows leadership and team work. 5 years ago, I think putting gaming related achievements/interests could negatively impact a resume; however, I think in 2010 it could help if displayed the correct way. That is a great way to phrase it | ||
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sCuMBaG
United Kingdom1144 Posts
for a manager it just shows, that you are great in wasting tim (at least in his eyes) | ||
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Stropheum
United States1124 Posts
I guess my response is this: If you want to get a job in MA, tell everyone you love the patriots. That's obviously an exaggeration, but appealing to the job description is what you really want to do. Do this: develop a core resume that you can refer to whenever you need a job. Then, based on the job, tweak the wordings of each part to reflect the job you want. You'll find at that point, what you say in it matters not so much as how you say it, because it's how you say it taht will peak the interest of the interviewer | ||
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
Also, if youre talking about SC, it wont be as good as that CS example that other poster brought up. In a CS team, you organize a group of real people and can really show great leadership qualities. In SC, even though youre commanding "armies", youre still just playing by yourself. If youre just playing a game by yourself, I cant see there being much that you could draw from there that would be relevant in a work environment. | ||
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caelym
United States6421 Posts
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Blix
Netherlands873 Posts
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KillyKyll
United States267 Posts
On October 24 2010 16:52 Siffer wrote: Put it on your resume if you can paint it to make you look good. For example, for 2 years I was a strat caller for a CS 1.6 team which performed well. On my resume I have "Former leader and strategy caller for a successful counter-strike team." Usually that always gets brought up in interviews. I explain that my decisions could impact the success of the team, and I often had to make decisive decisions on the fly. It shows leadership and team work. 5 years ago, I think putting gaming related achievements/interests could negatively impact a resume; however, I think in 2010 it could help if displayed the correct way. This is the perfect way to bring it up, if possible. Try to compare it to more common work-like skills that may relate to the job. If not possible, I wouldn't bring it up. | ||
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iEchoic
United States1776 Posts
2) If you do have to put hobbies for some reason, don't put anything about gaming, and especially don't call it e-sports. Hiring is still done by human beings and most human beings consider someone calling playing videogames an e-sport incredibly geeky. The only place I can see video games going on a resume is if you supported yourself financially using gaming, and you can put that under employment. Edit: I suppose it also depends where you're applying. If you're applying to gamestop, go ahead. If you're applying for a professional job, though, don't put it on there. | ||
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1711 Posts
On October 24 2010 15:21 Simplistik wrote: Having a unique interest can make you stand out. An account at or company said he once get an interview because on of his hobbies was "drinking beer". yeah! this is true! during an interview, i was asked on things i do in my free time. i told him i sleep a lot and love playing PS2 (i am not yet playing sc that time). anyway, after getting the job, he and his team still remembers me for that particular q&a and one of them told me that it was really interesting. but i don't know, if that's the first question in an interview, i wouldn't probably say it. i told him those things because it seems that the interview is about to finish and he just asked it randomly before he officially ended the interview. (or may be it was a trap question). | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
On October 25 2010 07:40 iEchoic wrote: 1) Don't put any hobbies on your resume. Putting hobbies on your resume is basically an indication that you can't fill up your resume with legitimate experience. 2) If you do have to put hobbies for some reason, don't put anything about gaming, and especially don't call it e-sports. Hiring is still done by human beings and most human beings consider someone calling playing videogames an e-sport incredibly geeky. The only place I can see video games going on a resume is if you supported yourself financially using gaming, and you can put that under employment. Edit: I suppose it also depends where you're applying. If you're applying to gamestop, go ahead. If you're applying for a professional job, though, don't put it on there. I've had "hobbies" like badminton, being a scout and arrangeing canoing trips and guitar playing on my resume and so far it has NEVER been a problem, actually I've only been complimented for it and by several people have I been told that it was a good touch. So whilst some hobbies might not be a good plan to put on (ESPORTS are sadly one of them), going so far as to say that you should never put them on is imo simply wrong/bad advice. | ||
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iEchoic
United States1776 Posts
On October 25 2010 07:53 Ghostcom wrote: I've had "hobbies" like badminton, being a scout and arrangeing canoing trips and guitar playing on my resume and so far it has NEVER been a problem, actually I've only been complimented for it and by several people have I been told that it was a good touch. So whilst some hobbies might not be a good plan to put on (ESPORTS are sadly one of them), going so far as to say that you should never put them on is imo simply wrong/bad advice. You can have hobbies on your resume, it won't kill you or leave you homeless, it's just not recommended by most people. If you have stuff to fill your resume, it's better to leave hobbies out. | ||
Chill
Calgary25988 Posts
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laste
Bulgaria242 Posts
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volders
Australia26 Posts
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
On October 25 2010 08:03 iEchoic wrote: You can have hobbies on your resume, it won't kill you or leave you homeless, it's just not recommended by most people. If you have stuff to fill your resume, it's better to leave hobbies out. What exactly do you mean by "fill your resume"? It's not like it is limited - though you should obviously not fill it with random stuff. Showcasing as many (positive) aspects of yourself should be pretty self-explanatory. And meaningful (to the reader) hobbies will showcase a lot of positive aspects if you can explain it properly: i.e. I would write something like that having during my highschool trained 6 hours of badminton, played tournaments 2 times a month, been the leader of some scouts, been in charge of the schools homework "cafe", played guitar whilst still managing to get good grades would showcase that I'm good at planning, prioritizing many different tasks and making sure to never miss a deadline. I would also write something about the individual qualities each hobby has given me: i.e. badminton has taught me to always strive for perfection and to go into each assignment with 100% focus on the task at hand. Furthermore badminton has taught me great disciplin even when performing mundane tasks. I could go on - the entire point is that even though you can probably find jobs which showcase some of the same stuff hobbies do this VERY well and the combination will typically make your resume stronger, not weaker. Heck, the times my sister or my father have been hiring people (all 3 for larger companies - Carlsberg and Novozymes) they take a pretty good look at what people have been doing BESIDES just their proffesional life - especially when looking to hire young people, so in the end it is probably up to personal preferences, but to say to never include it isn't very good advice... | ||
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NIJ
1012 Posts
If you're gonna mention competitive gaming, remember not everyone might understand what you are talking about, so you have to explain in a way that anyone with zero knowledge can get what you are saying. Point out things like critical thinking, teamwork and all that stuff when asked. At worst youre gonna do a bad job explaining it and it might sound like you're a weirdo if they didnt get it. then just dont put it at all. | ||
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danbel1005
United States1319 Posts
On October 24 2010 14:18 Hot_Bid wrote: If you put it on your resume please use the correct spelling and punctuation - "ESPORTS." I'll go with an example: KeSPA.- Korean e-Sports Players Association. Electronic Sports, also abbreviated e-Sports is commonly used as a general term to describe the play of video games competitively. | ||
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mmp
United States2130 Posts
If you're falling short of filling one page such that you need to mention this, then you probably won't get the job anyway. | ||
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iEchoic
United States1776 Posts
On October 25 2010 08:32 Ghostcom wrote: What exactly do you mean by "fill your resume"? It's not like it is limited - though you should obviously not fill it with random stuff. You should keep your resume to one page, unless you have multiple degrees or a LOT of relevant experience. A rule of thumb I've heard a lot is "you get one page for each degree you have". If you don't have multiple degrees or a ton of relevant experience that needs to be included, you are (or should be) limited to one page. Employers take an average of 30 seconds to look at your resume and they don't want to sort through more than one page of kung fu skills, your starcraft rank, and your favorite foods. | ||
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Mato
Australia412 Posts
I mean I play soccer and always put that down - its amazing how they love the fact I can work in a team, lead etc on the field... But if I put counter-strike, which takes alot of team-coordination as well, its a completely different thing in the eyes of an employer. Unfortunate, but reality. | ||
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cskalias.pbe
United States293 Posts
I think it would generally be more favorable to include more "traditional" games like poker, chess, go, just because of the social stigma of being a hardcore gamer. That said, I have a friend that was at one point #1 on the WAR3 US EAST 1v1 ladder, included it in his resume, and now he's doing really well at Goldman Sachs. | ||
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rredtooth
5461 Posts
On October 25 2010 08:38 danbel1005 wrote: it is and always has been abbreviated ESPORTSI'll go with an example: KeSPA.- Korean e-Sports Players Association. Electronic Sports, also abbreviated e-Sports is commonly used as a general term to describe the play of video games competitively. | ||
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Wartortle
Australia504 Posts
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bellweather
United States404 Posts
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Half
United States2554 Posts
It may not increase your chances of finding employment substantially, but I'd imagine ti would substantially increase your chances of finding employment you enjoy ^_^. | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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