EPTIts the casuals who complain the most... It's pretty ironic that they look down on gamers IRL and then when casuals finally pick up a video game they're the first to cry about anonymous people saying mean things about them on the internet
Why are Starcraft fans so obsessed with BM - Page 2
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pens
United States11 Posts
Its the casuals who complain the most... It's pretty ironic that they look down on gamers IRL and then when casuals finally pick up a video game they're the first to cry about anonymous people saying mean things about them on the internet | ||
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TymerA
Netherlands759 Posts
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NukeTheBunnys
United States1004 Posts
On September 17 2010 03:12 awesomoecalypse wrote: At least in America, we *expect* our athletes to talk trash. We like it, and we idolize them for it. Speak for yourself, not for all of us. Honestly I find it disgraceful when people act like this. Its one thing to be confident in your abilities and to say that you think you will do well. Its another thing entirely to say every one else is a scrub. What it all boils down to is you are not the greatest, there are people better then you, you are not a unique special snowflake, you are just another insignificant little speck that really warrants no attention just like everyone else. | ||
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Blackjackbob
Canada164 Posts
On September 17 2010 03:22 natewOw wrote: This is completely wrong. I hate it when people try to pull this "you're not as big as him, so you have no right to talk" bullshit. A pro football player talking trash is NO different than a pro-gamer talking trash. Both are the best at what they do, what gives one of them more right than the other? NOTHING. It's about what would happen if that trash talking became something more, like a fight. Your average football player in a fight would be much more entertaining to watch than your average progamer. | ||
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G2Wolf
United States261 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15661 Posts
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Rabiator
Germany3948 Posts
On September 17 2010 03:12 awesomoecalypse wrote: At least in America, we *expect* our athletes to talk trash. We like it, and we idolize them for it. The fact is, America is not Korea. In Korea, Sooo your way is the right way? The pure fact is that we are all humans and that being bad mannered is simply inacceptable in sports. Sure the beerdrinker faction with an IQ of below 60 will cheer more for violence (trash talking and the WWF), but do not expect the rest of the world to sink to this standard without putting up a fight. Sports celebrities are idols for younger generations and thus they have responsibilities towards the next generation. Kids will behave as their idols show them to do, but without fully understanding the whole picture (i.e. that it is only for show). This will result in them using that BM-bullshit in their daily life and that is where it is NOT WANTED. If you dont recognize why this is bad I would suggest some real hard thinking. | ||
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farseerdk
Canada504 Posts
On September 17 2010 03:25 Tsuroka wrote: I cant disagree with this more... ...i'm canadian not american This is why. | ||
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Gleen
Brazil707 Posts
Meanwhile, in the heat of SC2, you can do whatever you want but trash talk, it would cost you a game =p. Meanwhile, BM before a match start or after is not rare in SC. See Firebathero... =p. TBH, BMing has nothing to do with sportmanship, if you BM you're not a good sportman, you can be a badass, but not a good sportman. | ||
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Deadlyfish
Denmark1980 Posts
I wouldnt compare it to sports, in sports BM is frowned upon aswell, atleast where i come from. I'd turn it around and ask: why do people have a problem saying "gg" and glhf"? Takes you 0,5 seconds to write it, but for some reason you dont? | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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natewOw
United States181 Posts
On September 17 2010 03:27 Blackjackbob wrote: It's about what would happen if that trash talking became something more, like a fight. Your average football player in a fight would be much more entertaining to watch than your average progamer. What? This has nothing to do with anything. | ||
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Slakter
Sweden1947 Posts
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CrunkOwns
United States138 Posts
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Myles
United States5162 Posts
On September 17 2010 03:28 Rabiator wrote: Sooo your way is the right way? The pure fact is that we are all humans and that being bad mannered is simply inacceptable in sports. Sure the beerdrinker faction with an IQ of below 60 will cheer more for violence (trash talking and the WWF), but do not expect the rest of the world to sink to this standard without putting up a fight. Sports celebrities are idols for younger generations and thus they have responsibilities towards the next generation. Kids will behave as their idols show them to do, but without fully understanding the whole picture (i.e. that it is only for show). This will result in them using that BM-bullshit in their daily life and that is where it is NOT WANTED. If you dont recognize why this is bad I would suggest some real hard thinking. I hate this argument so much. How about the parents teach their kids what's acceptable and whats not? If you don't realize personal morals are opinions than you need to do some real hard thinking. | ||
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BasementCat
Canada155 Posts
As to bm in SC2 and IRL. The reason why we find BM in sports entertaining is that it is a two way street. Most of the time when another player is badmouthing someone, the other one is going back at it (our minds justify it as being a fair exchange of BM). If only one player was insulting another, we'd call it harassment or "getting inside their head". Almost all occasions of one-sided BM stop within the first sentence (due to bad sportsmanship rules in every league). Why are we so upset about BM in SC2? It's because it almost always is a one-way exchange. If both players were insulting each other, I wouldn't be so "disappointed in their behavior". | ||
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Rabiator
Germany3948 Posts
On September 17 2010 03:29 Gleen wrote: TBH, BMing has nothing to do with sportmanship, if you BM you're not a good sportman, you can be a badass, but not a good sportman. This is supported by the definition of GOSU from the Liquipedia: Gosu in Korean literally translates to "high hand" and it refers to a player with superior manner and skill. Too many people only focus that term on the "skill" part of the definition, but the behaviour is in it as well. | ||
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gavss
Turkey94 Posts
i have played counter-strike before. everybody was swearing at each other. | ||
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blagoonga123
United States2068 Posts
On September 17 2010 03:32 Myles wrote: I hate this argument so much. How about the parents teach their kids what's acceptable and whats not? If you don't realize personal morals are opinions than you need to do some real hard thinking. Lol have you ever been a kid? As a kid, did you listen to everything your parents said and ignore everything everyone else said? | ||
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ploy
United States416 Posts
On September 17 2010 03:28 Rabiator wrote: Sooo your way is the right way? The pure fact is that we are all humans and that being bad mannered is simply inacceptable in sports. Sure the beerdrinker faction with an IQ of below 60 will cheer more for violence (trash talking and the WWF), but do not expect the rest of the world to sink to this standard without putting up a fight. Sports celebrities are idols for younger generations and thus they have responsibilities towards the next generation. Kids will behave as their idols show them to do, but without fully understanding the whole picture (i.e. that it is only for show). This will result in them using that BM-bullshit in their daily life and that is where it is NOT WANTED. If you dont recognize why this is bad I would suggest some real hard thinking. I don't get how people can say that athletes have a responsibility to kids/the younger generation/etc. They don't get paid to set a good example, they are paid to perform and cause revenue generating activities for their owners (ticket sales). The fact is, professional athletes have no responsibility to set an example for the young people that look up to them. That is just your idealistic viewpoint - the athletes didn't choose or ask for people to look up to them. | ||
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