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Actionshoe
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany4 Posts
August 30 2010 01:43 GMT
#1

In one of the last scenes of "All in", when the timer is at about 99%, some girls portrait
pops up and says: Raynor don't give up or something.

I wonder if thats Nova - because, if I remember correctly, she that girl has blond hair, but kerrigan has red hair?

So why is Nova talking to me? She was not even in my team?

Any ideas u guys?
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
August 30 2010 01:46 GMT
#2
That's kerrigan talking to you in human form. Obviously she's reaching out to raynor for salvation of some kind.
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Actionshoe
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany4 Posts
August 30 2010 01:55 GMT
#3
but she doesnt resemble kerrigan...
TealLurker
Profile Joined June 2008
United States791 Posts
August 30 2010 01:55 GMT
#4
If you turn on the subtitles, it specifically says it's Sarah telling Jim to not give up.
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
August 30 2010 01:58 GMT
#5
its red hair lol
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Nub4ever
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1981 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 02:59:33
August 30 2010 02:02 GMT
#6
On August 30 2010 10:58 aimaimaim wrote:
its red hair lol

Really? I thought it was blonde O.O

Edit: NVM redid the last mission and turns out it is red
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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
August 30 2010 02:26 GMT
#7
On August 30 2010 10:55 Actionshoe wrote:
but she doesnt resemble kerrigan...


Are you kidding? The two unlockable portraits (Nova and Kerrigan) are exactly the same, just different hair colors. They could be twins.
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DminusTerran
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1337 Posts
August 30 2010 02:39 GMT
#8
On August 30 2010 11:26 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 10:55 Actionshoe wrote:
but she doesnt resemble kerrigan...


Are you kidding? The two unlockable portraits (Nova and Kerrigan) are exactly the same, just different hair colors. They could be twins.


With the way Blizzard treats lore they'll probably end up being sisters or some other bullshit.
Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 02:47:19
August 30 2010 02:45 GMT
#9
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ven
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany332 Posts
August 30 2010 02:57 GMT
#10
It's Kerrigan but for whatever reason they're using a slightly altered version of Nova's portrait. Different perspective and obviously recolored. They did the same for the multiplayer portraits. Dunno if they just got lazy or whatever because she clearly looks different from the cinematic.

Nova, fake Kerrigan, actual Kerrigan:
[image loading]
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
August 30 2010 03:04 GMT
#11
Well hopefully we'll get an updated portrait for whatever Kerrigan is in Hots, bad bad Blizzard for making a major character look like a minor character.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
August 30 2010 03:21 GMT
#12
Yah I thought it was Nova too when I first did it
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sikyon
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1045 Posts
August 30 2010 03:23 GMT
#13
On August 30 2010 11:57 ven wrote:
It's Kerrigan but for whatever reason they're using a slightly altered version of Nova's portrait. Different perspective and obviously recolored. They did the same for the multiplayer portraits. Dunno if they just got lazy or whatever because she clearly looks different from the cinematic.

Nova, fake Kerrigan, actual Kerrigan:
[image loading]


I was probably just different artists.
Aldair
Profile Joined May 2010
United States78 Posts
August 30 2010 03:26 GMT
#14
$10-20 portrait, $10-20 portrait, multi-thousand dollar cinimatic

there's your difference
mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
August 30 2010 03:28 GMT
#15
On August 30 2010 11:57 ven wrote:
It's Kerrigan but for whatever reason they're using a slightly altered version of Nova's portrait. Different perspective and obviously recolored. They did the same for the multiplayer portraits. Dunno if they just got lazy or whatever because she clearly looks different from the cinematic.

Nova, fake Kerrigan, actual Kerrigan:
[image loading]

This is my worst pet peeve from SC2 - the fact that Nova and Kerrigan portrait look almost like one. Blizzard could have fired that lazy ass artist from doing copy paste and ruining one of the most desirable reward portraits from Single Player mode.
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aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
August 30 2010 03:57 GMT
#16
On August 30 2010 12:04 BlackMagister wrote:
Well hopefully we'll get an updated portrait for whatever Kerrigan is in Hots, bad bad Blizzard for making a major character look like a minor character.


if you followed blizzards comments regarding kerrigan years back .. in SC:original, she was suppose to be a minor character .. like aldaris ..
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 30 2010 03:58 GMT
#17
On August 30 2010 10:55 TealLurker wrote:
If you turn on the subtitles, it specifically says it's Sarah telling Jim to not give up.

^ This man wins the thread. The subtitles specifying it's a message from "Sarah" clear up any possible doubts (not that I ever had any).
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TheGrimace
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States929 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 04:22:34
August 30 2010 04:21 GMT
#18
On August 30 2010 11:57 ven wrote:
It's Kerrigan but for whatever reason they're using a slightly altered version of Nova's portrait. Different perspective and obviously recolored. They did the same for the multiplayer portraits. Dunno if they just got lazy or whatever because she clearly looks different from the cinematic.

Nova, fake Kerrigan, actual Kerrigan:
[image loading]


Wow man. That's just terrible. I don't care whether it was two artists, they could have done a better job. Hell, like the post I just quoted, they could have screen capped the cinematic and given us a woman with at least the right nose shape. Lazy.

Edit: Nose and forehead. Face for that matter. My god.
han.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States51 Posts
August 30 2010 04:24 GMT
#19
There was in-game dialogue during the All-in mission? I don't ever remember seeing that... could someone post a picture/screencap?
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
August 30 2010 04:45 GMT
#20
On August 30 2010 12:57 aimaimaim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 12:04 BlackMagister wrote:
Well hopefully we'll get an updated portrait for whatever Kerrigan is in Hots, bad bad Blizzard for making a major character look like a minor character.


if you followed blizzards comments regarding kerrigan years back .. in SC:original, she was suppose to be a minor character .. like aldaris ..

Aldaris was no minor character lol
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MouseyPounds
Profile Joined August 2010
United States28 Posts
August 30 2010 04:46 GMT
#21
On August 30 2010 13:24 han. wrote:
There was in-game dialogue during the All-in mission? I don't ever remember seeing that... could someone post a picture/screencap?

It's at the very end of the mission. Take a look at
; the relevant dialogue starts at 2:56 and goes about 10 seconds.
Thoreezhea1
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States532 Posts
August 30 2010 05:55 GMT
#22
On August 30 2010 11:57 ven wrote:
It's Kerrigan but for whatever reason they're using a slightly altered version of Nova's portrait. Different perspective and obviously recolored. They did the same for the multiplayer portraits. Dunno if they just got lazy or whatever because she clearly looks different from the cinematic.

Nova, fake Kerrigan, actual Kerrigan:
[image loading]


Thats kerrigan, looking sweet ass in her spiffed out uniform, and being overrun and exhausted to death emotionally betrayed kerrigan.
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9562 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 06:09:19
August 30 2010 06:08 GMT
#23
Woah I didn't notice ghost Kerii talking to Raynor in the last seconds of All-In. Thanks for showing it to me O.o Guess I was a little busy trying to survive on Brutal.

Edit: And I agree. I was so disappointed when my Kerri avatar turned out to be a carbon copy of Nova just with reskinned hair ;/. Felt like such a rip off for playing brutal just to get that portrait T.T
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Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
August 30 2010 06:23 GMT
#24
On August 30 2010 13:46 MouseyPounds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 13:24 han. wrote:
There was in-game dialogue during the All-in mission? I don't ever remember seeing that... could someone post a picture/screencap?

It's at the very end of the mission. Take a look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRPk0JkJyeo#t=2m56s; the relevant dialogue starts at 2:56 and goes about 10 seconds.

WTF? I TOTALLY did NOT get this dialogue when I did the mission. Would it have been something to do with the difficulty maybe? (I did all missions on hard not brutal)
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TriniMasta
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1323 Posts
August 30 2010 06:26 GMT
#25
I wonder if thats Nova - because, if I remember correctly, she that girl has blond hair, but kerrigan has red hair?

On August 30 2010 13:24 han. wrote:
There was in-game dialogue during the All-in mission? I don't ever remember seeing that... could someone post a picture/screencap?

Obvious is obviously obvious.

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airen
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden82 Posts
August 30 2010 07:32 GMT
#26
Minor spoiler here regarding Nova:

+ Show Spoiler +
After you have completed her mission, she stays on Raynors ship (and thus is probably on his side). Just read the text about ghosts in the armory long enough. Surely someone else must have seen this?
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 07:39:11
August 30 2010 07:38 GMT
#27
On August 30 2010 16:32 airen wrote:
Minor spoiler here regarding Nova:

+ Show Spoiler +
After you have completed her mission, she stays on Raynors ship (and thus is probably on his side). Just read the text about ghosts in the armory long enough. Surely someone else must have seen this?

+ Show Spoiler +
or shes keeping tabs on raynor and will kill him when mengsk gets kerrigan dead. or shes watching over tychus.
Mortis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States217 Posts
August 30 2010 07:45 GMT
#28
I don't ever remember getting that dialogue.
ohN
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1075 Posts
August 30 2010 07:59 GMT
#29
I dont think that dialogue always comes up though.
I remember losing at 99.8% and I didn't get it.
When I beat it, it showed up at around 98-99%.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
August 30 2010 08:09 GMT
#30
On August 30 2010 16:32 airen wrote:
Minor spoiler here regarding Nova:

+ Show Spoiler +
After you have completed her mission, she stays on Raynors ship (and thus is probably on his side). Just read the text about ghosts in the armory long enough. Surely someone else must have seen this?


you did watch that cinematic right? shes about 6 light years away
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georgir
Profile Joined May 2009
Bulgaria253 Posts
August 30 2010 08:13 GMT
#31
The one that you call "fake kerrigan" is actually the one that I like better, and it somehow matches better with my memories from SC1.
The "real kerrigan", from the cinematic, has a too weird face, too rounded, even fat, not sexy at all, not at all like it should be. That, or they messed up something about showing the cinematic on a wide-screen resolution
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9562 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 08:34:36
August 30 2010 08:32 GMT
#32
On August 30 2010 17:09 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 16:32 airen wrote:
Minor spoiler here regarding Nova:

+ Show Spoiler +
After you have completed her mission, she stays on Raynors ship (and thus is probably on his side). Just read the text about ghosts in the armory long enough. Surely someone else must have seen this?


you did watch that cinematic right? shes about 6 light years away


Did you click on the sniper rifle in the armoury long enough? She's definitely on the ship with Raynor.
But it sucks major ass that you can't have her in the Cantina and talk to her after and before every mission like you could with Tosh.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 30 2010 08:38 GMT
#33
On August 30 2010 16:59 ohN wrote:
I dont think that dialogue always comes up though.
I remember losing at 99.8% and I didn't get it.
When I beat it, it showed up at around 98-99%.

Afaik you only get it if you "kill" Kerrigan during her last attack. You can still beat the mission while she knocks at your front door, but then then you won't get that transmission.
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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 30 2010 08:57 GMT
#34
O_O didn't know some people didnt get that dialogue.
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9562 Posts
August 30 2010 09:14 GMT
#35
On August 30 2010 17:38 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 16:59 ohN wrote:
I dont think that dialogue always comes up though.
I remember losing at 99.8% and I didn't get it.
When I beat it, it showed up at around 98-99%.

Afaik you only get it if you "kill" Kerrigan during her last attack. You can still beat the mission while she knocks at your front door, but then then you won't get that transmission.


Yeah I think that's what happened to me. My defences were compromised anyway, and I was just stalling so they wouldn't get to the artifact in time. I wasn't in any postion to kill her or even think about it.
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esReveR
Profile Joined February 2010
United States567 Posts
August 30 2010 09:18 GMT
#36
I want to know why the Sarah Kerrigan in the betrayal cut scene looks vastly different (facial structure) than the Kerrigan in the final cut scene when she is human again.
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Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
August 30 2010 10:02 GMT
#37
On August 30 2010 18:14 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 17:38 spinesheath wrote:
On August 30 2010 16:59 ohN wrote:
I dont think that dialogue always comes up though.
I remember losing at 99.8% and I didn't get it.
When I beat it, it showed up at around 98-99%.

Afaik you only get it if you "kill" Kerrigan during her last attack. You can still beat the mission while she knocks at your front door, but then then you won't get that transmission.


Yeah I think that's what happened to me. My defences were compromised anyway, and I was just stalling so they wouldn't get to the artifact in time. I wasn't in any postion to kill her or even think about it.

I highly doubt that was the reason for me, as I was completely owning face for the entire mission. Those mind control towers gave me an army of like 40 mutas, 12 guardians, and several ultras and hydras. like I did say though, I wasn't playing on brutal.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
August 30 2010 10:20 GMT
#38
nova's ghost appearance in the armory is more of an hidden easter treat
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Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
August 30 2010 11:08 GMT
#39
It specifically says when you're choosing between Tosh's mission and Nova's mission that Nova would not be staying with you, but that she would teach you how to train Ghosts. She's not on the ship -_-
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MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
August 30 2010 11:10 GMT
#40
On August 30 2010 17:13 georgir wrote:
The one that you call "fake kerrigan" is actually the one that I like better, and it somehow matches better with my memories from SC1.
The "real kerrigan", from the cinematic, has a too weird face, too rounded, even fat, not sexy at all, not at all like it should be. That, or they messed up something about showing the cinematic on a wide-screen resolution

eyes too far apart is what bothers me [image loading]
ven
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany332 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 12:55:16
August 30 2010 12:48 GMT
#41
On August 30 2010 20:08 Nightmarjoo wrote:
It specifically says when you're choosing between Tosh's mission and Nova's mission that Nova would not be staying with you, but that she would teach you how to train Ghosts. She's not on the ship -_-

Ya, not really, but if you look at the ghost equipment in the armory long enough she uncloaks sitting ontop of the weapon crates for a few seconds and then recloaks again. I doubt it means she's actually with him. It's more of an easter egg.
Video for anyone who chose Tosh or can't be bothered to look for themselves: + Show Spoiler +
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aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
August 30 2010 12:57 GMT
#42
shes on the ship .. lol
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Flight
Profile Joined August 2010
Brazil163 Posts
August 30 2010 13:12 GMT
#43
putrio
Profile Joined May 2010
United States35 Posts
August 30 2010 13:19 GMT
#44
I remember a month or so ago getting placed against someone with the kerrigan portrait, and thinking it was the 1000 terran wins reward and crapping my pants...Then after winning the game I looked and realized the 1k reward was nova...They do look annoyingly similar, especially if you aren't expecting it. I went through all the campaign missions on brutal after that so I could do the same thing to other people.
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
August 30 2010 13:42 GMT
#45
On August 30 2010 12:57 aimaimaim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 12:04 BlackMagister wrote:
Well hopefully we'll get an updated portrait for whatever Kerrigan is in Hots, bad bad Blizzard for making a major character look like a minor character.


if you followed blizzards comments regarding kerrigan years back .. in SC:original, she was suppose to be a minor character .. like aldaris ..

So Kerrigan was planned to be a minor character in SC2? And yes I do know what you're talking about, though I think they said it was more along the lines of Kerrigan was thrown into the game rather late than she was planned to be a minor character. Before they even started making SC2 Kerrigan obviously wasn't meant to be a minor character, they should have had art planned for her looks early on, which I suppose means it's likely Nova being a look alike came second.
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 14:08:46
August 30 2010 14:07 GMT
#46
Weird ... I totally did not get that dialogue. Maybe it's because the game thought I was going to fail lol. I only had 1 or 2 tanks (no buildings or anything else) left when I hit 100%. Or maybe it was because Kerrigan was still active when I hit 100% ... maybe the dialogue is triggered by bringing her down the last time.

On August 30 2010 22:42 BlackMagister wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2010 12:57 aimaimaim wrote:
On August 30 2010 12:04 BlackMagister wrote:
Well hopefully we'll get an updated portrait for whatever Kerrigan is in Hots, bad bad Blizzard for making a major character look like a minor character.


if you followed blizzards comments regarding kerrigan years back .. in SC:original, she was suppose to be a minor character .. like aldaris ..

So Kerrigan was planned to be a minor character in SC2? And yes I do know what you're talking about, though I think they said it was more along the lines of Kerrigan was thrown into the game rather late than she was planned to be a minor character. Before they even started making SC2 Kerrigan obviously wasn't meant to be a minor character, they should have had art planned for her looks early on, which I suppose means it's likely Nova being a look alike came second.


She was planned to be a minor throw away character originally in sc1. She was originally supposed to just die when she got left behind.
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Dugrok
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada377 Posts
August 30 2010 14:37 GMT
#47
Yeah, a friend of mine was saying : I find it funny that Mohandar, Urun, etc... who are in a single mission all get their own custom portraits... but Kerrigan, who's arguably the most important character in SC in general, doesn't.

Blizzard logic at its finest!
Knightlax
Profile Joined July 2010
United States150 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 15:16:49
August 30 2010 15:15 GMT
#48
On August 30 2010 23:37 Dugrok wrote:
Yeah, a friend of mine was saying : I find it funny that Mohandar, Urun, etc... who are in a single mission all get their own custom portraits... but Kerrigan, who's arguably the most important character in SC in general, doesn't.

Blizzard logic at its finest!


MAYBE THEY ARE UNIQUE! Possible spoilers!

Incoming soap-opera style story line where Nova is ... DUN DUN DUN ... Kerrigan's twin sister! They were separated at birth and due to the experiments during ghost training, Nova's hair turned blond!

OR

Incoming soap-opera style story line where Nova is ... DUN DUN DUN ... Kerrigan's younger sister! They were separated when Kerrigan was taken from her parents for ghost training. Nova was just a new born baby! But in the expansion, they are gonna team up and form the first FEMALE HUMAN ARCHON. OH YEAH, BABY!

OR

Incoming soap-opera style story line where Nova is ... DUN DUN DUN ... JIM AND KERRGIAN's DAUGHTER FROM THE FUTURE! She was sent back in time by Zeratul to save Jim and Kerrigan so that their unborn daughter would survive and be able to lead the resistance against the machines! Wait, I think that's been done somehow.
ReTr0[p.S]
Profile Joined March 2005
Argentina1590 Posts
August 30 2010 15:22 GMT
#49
On August 31 2010 00:15 Knightlax wrote:

Incoming soap-opera style story line where Nova is ... DUN DUN DUN ... JIM AND KERRGIAN's DAUGHTER FROM THE FUTURE! She was sent back in time by Zeratul to save Jim and Kerrigan so that their unborn daughter would survive and be able to lead the resistance against the machines! Wait, I think that's been done somehow.


I like that one best :p
Thoreezhea1
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States532 Posts
August 30 2010 15:25 GMT
#50
On August 30 2010 13:24 han. wrote:
There was in-game dialogue during the All-in mission? I don't ever remember seeing that... could someone post a picture/screencap?


I don't have a picture, but kerrigan says, i'll scour you ALL from my world... I am tired of working through others, time to meet your demise! everytime she comes out to get you.

horner says: go nova, use the artifact.

warfield and tychus say hold the line and shes gone underground, keep the pressure on!

the adjutant warns you when air, nydus, or kerrigan is inbound.
What the Fu- REAPERS?!
Vinnesta
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Singapore285 Posts
August 30 2010 15:42 GMT
#51
On August 31 2010 00:15 Knightlax wrote:
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On August 30 2010 23:37 Dugrok wrote:
Yeah, a friend of mine was saying : I find it funny that Mohandar, Urun, etc... who are in a single mission all get their own custom portraits... but Kerrigan, who's arguably the most important character in SC in general, doesn't.

Blizzard logic at its finest!


MAYBE THEY ARE UNIQUE! Possible spoilers!

Incoming soap-opera style story line where Nova is ... DUN DUN DUN ... Kerrigan's twin sister! They were separated at birth and due to the experiments during ghost training, Nova's hair turned blond!


I won't be surprised! They are both Ghosts, and I don't think any random human could be one, so it is possible that they are part of a family with Ghost powers. What difference that makes for the SC2 lore, I don't know, because Nova seemed more than willing to defect to Raynor's side even without a blood relation to Kerrigan.
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
August 30 2010 16:29 GMT
#52
On August 30 2010 23:07 789 wrote:
Weird ... I totally did not get that dialogue. Maybe it's because the game thought I was going to fail lol. I only had 1 or 2 tanks (no buildings or anything else) left when I hit 100%. Or maybe it was because Kerrigan was still active when I hit 100% ... maybe the dialogue is triggered by bringing her down the last time.

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On August 30 2010 22:42 BlackMagister wrote:
On August 30 2010 12:57 aimaimaim wrote:
On August 30 2010 12:04 BlackMagister wrote:
Well hopefully we'll get an updated portrait for whatever Kerrigan is in Hots, bad bad Blizzard for making a major character look like a minor character.


if you followed blizzards comments regarding kerrigan years back .. in SC:original, she was suppose to be a minor character .. like aldaris ..

So Kerrigan was planned to be a minor character in SC2? And yes I do know what you're talking about, though I think they said it was more along the lines of Kerrigan was thrown into the game rather late than she was planned to be a minor character. Before they even started making SC2 Kerrigan obviously wasn't meant to be a minor character, they should have had art planned for her looks early on, which I suppose means it's likely Nova being a look alike came second.


She was planned to be a minor throw away character originally in sc1. She was originally supposed to just die when she got left behind.

Yes you need to kill Kerrigan in order to get the ending dialogue. Also my point was that Kerrigan was going to be a major character before they even began planning SC2 she shouldn't look like a minor character expect for some of the crazy theories already mentioned.

Kerrigan and Nova both have stories explaining what happened to their families so I don't see them being blood related though Blizzard could easily make some ridiculous way for them to still be related but it would probably need to involve some conspiracy. They're both extremely powerful psychics so they definitely have that in common and if they are somehow related it might mean Nova also has the potential to control the Zerg as even before being infested Kerrigan showed signs it was possible during the Confederate experiments. I seriously hope they're not related and doubt it, but the storytelling of WoL makes me afraid of what might be in store.
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
August 30 2010 16:35 GMT
#53
Can't we just get the pic on the right as our profile pic for beating brutal? looks so much better...
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 16:52:22
August 30 2010 16:52 GMT
#54
On August 30 2010 17:32 Latham wrote:
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On August 30 2010 17:09 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On August 30 2010 16:32 airen wrote:
Minor spoiler here regarding Nova:

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After you have completed her mission, she stays on Raynors ship (and thus is probably on his side). Just read the text about ghosts in the armory long enough. Surely someone else must have seen this?


you did watch that cinematic right? shes about 6 light years away


Did you click on the sniper rifle in the armoury long enough? She's definitely on the ship with Raynor.
But it sucks major ass that you can't have her in the Cantina and talk to her after and before every mission like you could with Tosh.


Yeah, a fucking easter egg means she's definitely on the ship. What's next... Tauren and Murloc marines are for real? I can already imagine the plot - Terran, Protoss, Zerg, Murlocs and Tauren unite to defeat the Dark Voice!
I'll call Nada.
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
August 30 2010 17:09 GMT
#55
Its kerrigan - Check the hair color
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FraCuS
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1072 Posts
August 30 2010 17:15 GMT
#56
Nova looks like she has been doing crystal meth.
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Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
August 30 2010 17:25 GMT
#57
yeah nova looks pretty butch
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s[O]rry
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada398 Posts
August 30 2010 17:35 GMT
#58
Doesn't Raynor say "I hear Sarah"..?
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Dagon
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania264 Posts
August 30 2010 17:53 GMT
#59
On August 30 2010 23:37 Dugrok wrote:
Yeah, a friend of mine was saying : I find it funny that Mohandar, Urun, etc... who are in a single mission all get their own custom portraits... but Kerrigan, who's arguably the most important character in SC in general, doesn't.

Blizzard logic at its finest!



You do realize that there are still 2 whole campaigns left, right? I'm sure the protoss heroes still have a part to play in the future against the hybrid.. I think the campaign will just get better in the next installments.. Kind of like the LotR movies.. The terran missions were just a long tutorial..
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
August 30 2010 18:05 GMT
#60
The real travesty here is that Nova is the 1000 solo win icon for Terran. Every other race has something bad ass and Terran gets a prematurely graying girl who has appeared in one of the campaign missions...
10or10
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden517 Posts
August 30 2010 18:27 GMT
#61
On August 30 2010 23:07 789 wrote:
Weird ... I totally did not get that dialogue. Maybe it's because the game thought I was going to fail lol. I only had 1 or 2 tanks (no buildings or anything else) left when I hit 100%. Or maybe it was because Kerrigan was still active when I hit 100% ... maybe the dialogue is triggered by bringing her down the last time.

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On August 30 2010 22:42 BlackMagister wrote:
On August 30 2010 12:57 aimaimaim wrote:
On August 30 2010 12:04 BlackMagister wrote:
Well hopefully we'll get an updated portrait for whatever Kerrigan is in Hots, bad bad Blizzard for making a major character look like a minor character.


if you followed blizzards comments regarding kerrigan years back .. in SC:original, she was suppose to be a minor character .. like aldaris ..

So Kerrigan was planned to be a minor character in SC2? And yes I do know what you're talking about, though I think they said it was more along the lines of Kerrigan was thrown into the game rather late than she was planned to be a minor character. Before they even started making SC2 Kerrigan obviously wasn't meant to be a minor character, they should have had art planned for her looks early on, which I suppose means it's likely Nova being a look alike came second.


She was planned to be a minor throw away character originally in sc1. She was originally supposed to just die when she got left behind.

So the intricate story of SC1 was just a fluke? That explains the SC2 story and storytelling...
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MashuOni
Profile Joined July 2010
United States9 Posts
August 30 2010 18:56 GMT
#62
Maybe, they both might go to a same ghost academy or it's probably me speculating.
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GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
September 02 2010 23:07 GMT
#63
Nice catch! Fake Kerrigan oversight is a shame =[
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Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 23:56:34
September 02 2010 23:56 GMT
#64
i guess all the ghosts at that academy get the same pimped up lips and faces and thats why they look like twins. 26th century plastic surgery, baby!
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SageFantasma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States383 Posts
September 03 2010 00:51 GMT
#65
One reason why the portrait of Kerrigan and the CG version of Kerrigan is so different is in what I said.

The portrait is 2D, the CG version is 3D. Now, that being said, they are SEVERELY different even considering that. But the picture that Raynor has of Kerrigan is quite different as well. So who knows.

To anyone who is saying Kerrigan is a late addition: What the fuck? Kerrigan is HUGELY important in every single campaign. I don't know what you guys are talking about. Blizzard is damn good, but I don't think they are so good to add a "late addition" into the campaign so flawlessly and with such great importance in the story.
afirlortwo
Profile Joined April 2010
United States161 Posts
September 03 2010 01:53 GMT
#66
On August 31 2010 03:05 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
The real travesty here is that Nova is the 1000 solo win icon for Terran. Every other race has something bad ass and Terran gets a prematurely graying girl who has appeared in one of the campaign missions...


Thats most likely because getting 1000 solo wins as terran is so easy
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gamecrazy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States421 Posts
September 03 2010 02:00 GMT
#67
On September 03 2010 09:51 SageFantasma wrote:
One reason why the portrait of Kerrigan and the CG version of Kerrigan is so different is in what I said.

The portrait is 2D, the CG version is 3D. Now, that being said, they are SEVERELY different even considering that. But the picture that Raynor has of Kerrigan is quite different as well. So who knows.

To anyone who is saying Kerrigan is a late addition: What the fuck? Kerrigan is HUGELY important in every single campaign. I don't know what you guys are talking about. Blizzard is damn good, but I don't think they are so good to add a "late addition" into the campaign so flawlessly and with such great importance in the story.


In an interview on Sclegacy, Chris Metzen admits that Kerrigan's role in the original SC1 campaign was only added during the later stages of development. But, yeah they still did a good job with it. You can note that Kerrigan is quite absent in the Protoss campaign of vanilla SC. She really was supposed to be a minor character at first.
Ordained
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
September 03 2010 02:02 GMT
#68
On August 30 2010 11:57 ven wrote:
It's Kerrigan but for whatever reason they're using a slightly altered version of Nova's portrait. Different perspective and obviously recolored. They did the same for the multiplayer portraits. Dunno if they just got lazy or whatever because she clearly looks different from the cinematic.

Nova, fake Kerrigan, actual Kerrigan:
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I think the middle image is Kerrigan's portrait in Heart of the Swarm
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ayababa
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia347 Posts
September 03 2010 02:22 GMT
#69
nova portrait = not attractive
kerrigan portrait = not attractive
cinematic kerrigan portrait = attractive

honestly when i get to 1000 terran games won.. im not even going to use nova's stupid portrait.. both zerg and toss have badass portraits lol.

and this is why i don't use my kerrigan portrait, she is bland and dull. same goes for just about every terran portrait... they need some kind of expression.
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ayababa
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia347 Posts
September 03 2010 02:29 GMT
#70
On September 03 2010 09:51 SageFantasma wrote:
One reason why the portrait of Kerrigan and the CG version of Kerrigan is so different is in what I said.

The portrait is 2D, the CG version is 3D. Now, that being said, they are SEVERELY different even considering that. But the picture that Raynor has of Kerrigan is quite different as well. So who knows.

To anyone who is saying Kerrigan is a late addition: What the fuck? Kerrigan is HUGELY important in every single campaign. I don't know what you guys are talking about. Blizzard is damn good, but I don't think they are so good to add a "late addition" into the campaign so flawlessly and with such great importance in the story.


the 2d portrait is a 3d rendered shot... im just saying, no one sat there and drew a perfectly looking 3d model in 2d with a graphics tab. they would have touched it up after the shot was taking...

so in saying that.. why couldn't they grab the 3d model from the cinematic and use that for their shot..

OR maybe im just waaaaay of?


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Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 02:58:56
September 03 2010 02:58 GMT
#71
Yeahhh they needa take the cinematic version and make it the portrait, she look 500x better.

And what's with the fucking goliath and vulture portraits. WHO WOULD EVER THINK THOSE GOGGLE THINGS are even REMOTELY COOL? So awful.

The goliath got absolute butchered in terms of the unit itself, the portrait, and the voice. =(
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Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
September 03 2010 03:06 GMT
#72
in terms of icon coolness, nothing beats the tassadar icon. but its too hard to get.
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ayababa
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia347 Posts
September 03 2010 05:19 GMT
#73
im purposely going to lose every match as terran after my 999th win so i dont even get the nova port bahahah
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9562 Posts
September 03 2010 05:30 GMT
#74
What the hell is wrong with this world... "when I get 1K T wins, I won't use Nova" ... I'm speechless. I'd kill to have Nova's portrait instead of getting Queen of Blades since I'm Z -.-
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ayababa
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia347 Posts
September 03 2010 06:11 GMT
#75
queen of blades portrait is badd ass... i would take that over nova any day... hell i would take it over the dark voice
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simme123
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Sweden810 Posts
September 03 2010 06:25 GMT
#76
Nova is more of an easter egg she was the lead in starcraft ghost she has nothing to do with kerrigan except for being a ghost.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9562 Posts
September 03 2010 10:00 GMT
#77
On September 03 2010 15:11 ayababa wrote:
queen of blades portrait is badd ass... i would take that over nova any day... hell i would take it over the dark voice


No. She was badass in BW. They killed her character and everything that made her badass in SC2.
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Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
September 03 2010 11:10 GMT
#78
On September 03 2010 19:00 Latham wrote:
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On September 03 2010 15:11 ayababa wrote:
queen of blades portrait is badd ass... i would take that over nova any day... hell i would take it over the dark voice


No. She was badass in BW. They killed her character and everything that made her badass in SC2.


Zerg-Infested Ghost --> Queen of Blades with high-heels? WTF?:D
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Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
September 03 2010 11:26 GMT
#79
Wow those girls are really the same. Sisters 100%. I didn't think the similarity is so strong.
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
September 03 2010 11:35 GMT
#80
Well, nova's a pretty hard portrait to get unlike the fake kerrigan.
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DminusTerran
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1337 Posts
September 03 2010 11:42 GMT
#81
Nova has a pretty serious case of man-jaw, probably has a dick imo.
WLV
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada76 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 15:37:09
September 03 2010 13:20 GMT
#82
I cant believe no1 thought of this:

Poll: Nova or Kerrigan (Human/Infested... whatever floats ur boat)

Kerrigan (41)
 
65%

Nova (22)
 
35%

63 total votes

Your vote: Nova or Kerrigan (Human/Infested... whatever floats ur boat)

(Vote): Nova
(Vote): Kerrigan



TO MOD: can we get this bumped up to the 1st post, if possible? or put this poll in the 1st comment's post. thnx
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ccou
Profile Joined December 2008
United States681 Posts
September 03 2010 14:08 GMT
#83
I liked how Kerrigan used to look: http://starcraft.neoseeker.com/wiki/File:SarahKerrigan_SC1_HeadAnim1.gif

She had a long face and dreads. It was metal as hell. It really fit with the gritty dystopian universe that we saw in SC/BW. Now, where did this wispy-haired, gentle looking human Kerrigan come from. Just another damsel in distress. SC2 just feels like one big retcon to dumb down the starcraft universe.
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ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-04 01:52:10
September 04 2010 01:51 GMT
#84
Yeah wasnt too crazy about the new kerrigan look. It looks generic and different to the point it feels like a different person. That or maybe Raynor's dream recollection sucks! jk

I think Nova looked more feminine in the artwork they released for SC:ghost too. Overall the 3d models looked great, but maybe the artists werent that good with female faces, more specialized in aliens, wrinkled faces and biceps(fucking raynor has been working out) lol
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latan
Profile Joined July 2010
740 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-04 06:00:52
September 04 2010 05:45 GMT
#85
On September 03 2010 23:08 ccou wrote:
I liked how Kerrigan used to look: http://starcraft.neoseeker.com/wiki/File:SarahKerrigan_SC1_HeadAnim1.gif

She had a long face and dreads. It was metal as hell. It really fit with the gritty dystopian universe that we saw in SC/BW. Now, where did this wispy-haired, gentle looking human Kerrigan come from. Just another damsel in distress. SC2 just feels like one big retcon to dumb down the starcraft universe.


this. when i saw the new kerrigan i just thought "hey thath's not right". i mean i barely remembered her portrait in sc1 but i knew that is not what she was suposed to look like back then.

edit:
also what with the replaceng of the ghost's specs with that silly mask
latan
Profile Joined July 2010
740 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-04 06:00:40
September 04 2010 05:47 GMT
#86
error 24
Touch
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada475 Posts
September 04 2010 09:18 GMT
#87
On September 03 2010 22:20 WLV wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I cant believe no1 thought of this:

Poll: Nova or Kerrigan (Human/Infested... whatever floats ur boat)

Kerrigan (41)
 
65%

Nova (22)
 
35%

63 total votes

Your vote: Nova or Kerrigan (Human/Infested... whatever floats ur boat)

(Vote): Nova
(Vote): Kerrigan



TO MOD: can we get this bumped up to the 1st post, if possible? or put this poll in the 1st comment's post. thnx
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Conzeq
Profile Joined April 2010
64 Posts
September 04 2010 09:51 GMT
#88
Wow, I actually hadn't noticed this. This is sloppy Blizzard. Bad blizzard, bad!
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Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
September 04 2010 09:53 GMT
#89
On September 03 2010 23:08 ccou wrote:
I liked how Kerrigan used to look: http://starcraft.neoseeker.com/wiki/File:SarahKerrigan_SC1_HeadAnim1.gif

She had a long face and dreads. It was metal as hell. It really fit with the gritty dystopian universe that we saw in SC/BW. Now, where did this wispy-haired, gentle looking human Kerrigan come from. Just another damsel in distress. SC2 just feels like one big retcon to dumb down the starcraft universe.

between dreads, the skin tone and the above average sized lips it made you think kerrigan was part black. What happened to that. I liked how between that and bold raynor they went with a non-cliche leads.
Instead now we have pretty boy raynor and typical kerrigan look.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
September 04 2010 14:37 GMT
#90
On September 04 2010 14:45 latan wrote:
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On September 03 2010 23:08 ccou wrote:
I liked how Kerrigan used to look: http://starcraft.neoseeker.com/wiki/File:SarahKerrigan_SC1_HeadAnim1.gif

She had a long face and dreads. It was metal as hell. It really fit with the gritty dystopian universe that we saw in SC/BW. Now, where did this wispy-haired, gentle looking human Kerrigan come from. Just another damsel in distress. SC2 just feels like one big retcon to dumb down the starcraft universe.


this. when i saw the new kerrigan i just thought "hey thath's not right". i mean i barely remembered her portrait in sc1 but i knew that is not what she was suposed to look like back then.

Jim Raynor looked like a terminal cancer patient back in SC1, and yet people seem to be okay with his extreme makeover. If anything, I find Kerrigan's transformation a lot less jarring than Jim's.
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
September 04 2010 15:59 GMT
#91
yeah, i was liek WTF is Nova doing here, but then realized it's Sarah. Damn, 2 women and both look the same way. Ok i guess there was Ariele too but she had glasses so it doesnt count
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 04 2010 16:54 GMT
#92
On August 30 2010 13:45 ArvickHero wrote:
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On August 30 2010 12:57 aimaimaim wrote:
On August 30 2010 12:04 BlackMagister wrote:
Well hopefully we'll get an updated portrait for whatever Kerrigan is in Hots, bad bad Blizzard for making a major character look like a minor character.


if you followed blizzards comments regarding kerrigan years back .. in SC:original, she was suppose to be a minor character .. like aldaris ..

Aldaris was no minor character lol

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latan
Profile Joined July 2010
740 Posts
September 04 2010 17:47 GMT
#93
On September 04 2010 23:37 Zato-1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 14:45 latan wrote:
On September 03 2010 23:08 ccou wrote:
I liked how Kerrigan used to look: http://starcraft.neoseeker.com/wiki/File:SarahKerrigan_SC1_HeadAnim1.gif

She had a long face and dreads. It was metal as hell. It really fit with the gritty dystopian universe that we saw in SC/BW. Now, where did this wispy-haired, gentle looking human Kerrigan come from. Just another damsel in distress. SC2 just feels like one big retcon to dumb down the starcraft universe.


this. when i saw the new kerrigan i just thought "hey thath's not right". i mean i barely remembered her portrait in sc1 but i knew that is not what she was suposed to look like back then.

Jim Raynor looked like a terminal cancer patient back in SC1, and yet people seem to be okay with his extreme makeover. If anything, I find Kerrigan's transformation a lot less jarring than Jim's.


but to be fair i thougt the same thing about jim. i'm thinking "hey! that's not how i imagined him at all, okay i understand him groing hair and stuff but how he got so buff?".
ayababa
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia347 Posts
September 06 2010 00:51 GMT
#94
On September 03 2010 19:00 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 15:11 ayababa wrote:
queen of blades portrait is badd ass... i would take that over nova any day... hell i would take it over the dark voice


No. She was badass in BW. They killed her character and everything that made her badass in SC2.



* I said portrait
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Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
September 06 2010 01:34 GMT
#95
Not a good topic, no idea why it has stayed up this long.
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