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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
August 21 2010 14:51 GMT
#81
use your resources properly before you complain about anything. You have no right to whine when you have built up so much resources and you haven't maxed out.
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
August 21 2010 15:02 GMT
#82
Why dont you just do what every other zerg player does, Mass 50 banelings, and A move. If you upgrade their speed you will crush marine/marauder nearly every time.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
aznhockeyboy16
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States558 Posts
August 21 2010 15:19 GMT
#83
1) apparently you are awful. people have no right to complain about imbalance when you aren't even close to a top tier player really.

2) fungal growth banelings, or broodlords, or just banelings. ultralisks actually sound like a bad idea, since you were behind on upgrades.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
August 21 2010 15:50 GMT
#84
If you actually upgraded and then got the Ultra upgrade, Ultra/Baneling/Ling woulda tore through that army. And by upgraded, I mean the Ultra's have 5 armor and at least 2 attack.
Mayerling
Profile Joined July 2010
United States34 Posts
August 21 2010 15:55 GMT
#85
It's just simply that he was a better player than you. And I'm not saying that to flame you. I am saying that so you don't smash your face into the rocks of "that race is overpowered and unfair against my race" mentality. Everyone has those games with the frustration and confusion. I play terran and I have played matches vs zerg and felt exactly how you did in this game. Same for TvP and TvT. The races are balanced. Each one is just better suited to certain styles of play. Sometimes you just get outplayed, it happens to all of us. So you get up, dust yourself off, and learn from WHY it happened instead of complaining about it.
Heh...
fishball232
Profile Joined May 2010
United States90 Posts
August 21 2010 15:59 GMT
#86
yep i quit zerg and played terran. now i have become the dick that goes all in marines on zerg, when i used to lose to it
"You really have to detach yourself and accept that you suck at StarCraft. Like I suck at StarCraft and it's all I've done for 15 years"-Artosis 2013
Mayerling
Profile Joined July 2010
United States34 Posts
August 21 2010 15:59 GMT
#87
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=146114
I mean look at this. There are people that have problems as terran against zerg. It's all subjective. I notice a few people here posted great advice for you. Instead of worrying so much about your complaining being justifiable, take what they have said and use it to better your playstyle. They are trying to help.
Heh...
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 16:47:37
August 21 2010 16:47 GMT
#88
You really need to work on your macro, I was wincing your gas was stacking so high. The only time you should save up money is if you're taking a huge tech leap to a high tier unit, such as going into ultra's out of nowhere and need to afford the +2 armor upgrade and like 6 ultras.
moosh
Profile Joined May 2009
United States118 Posts
August 21 2010 19:58 GMT
#89
On August 22 2010 00:02 Darpa wrote:
Why dont you just do what every other zerg player does, Mass 50 banelings, and A move. If you upgrade their speed you will crush marine/marauder nearly every time.


pretty much what i did... awful idea
moosh
Profile Joined May 2009
United States118 Posts
August 21 2010 20:01 GMT
#90
On August 22 2010 00:19 aznhockeyboy16 wrote:
1) apparently you are awful. people have no right to complain about imbalance when you aren't even close to a top tier player really.

2) fungal growth banelings, or broodlords, or just banelings. ultralisks actually sound like a bad idea, since you were behind on upgrades.


funny cuz top tier players are also complaining about zvt... and you have to be a to tier player to complain? wow thats super great thinking...

broodlords against mass stimmed marines? do you even play this game?

your advice, like most others are whack... teching to tier 3.5 shouldnt be your only answer to mass marines

fungal growth plus banelings is probably the best bet... but believe i went LOTS of banelings
moosh
Profile Joined May 2009
United States118 Posts
August 21 2010 20:02 GMT
#91
On August 22 2010 00:59 Mayerling wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=146114
I mean look at this. There are people that have problems as terran against zerg. It's all subjective. I notice a few people here posted great advice for you. Instead of worrying so much about your complaining being justifiable, take what they have said and use it to better your playstyle. They are trying to help.


oh i have, from the people who had real advice... most didn't thoug
moosh
Profile Joined May 2009
United States118 Posts
August 21 2010 20:03 GMT
#92
On August 22 2010 01:47 Fruscainte wrote:
You really need to work on your macro, I was wincing your gas was stacking so high. The only time you should save up money is if you're taking a huge tech leap to a high tier unit, such as going into ultra's out of nowhere and need to afford the +2 armor upgrade and like 6 ultras.


i really really debated going ultra when i saw my money go up... but you've seen how marauder just make butter out of ultras right? i didnt think they'd be affective against the marines either
moosh
Profile Joined May 2009
United States118 Posts
August 21 2010 20:04 GMT
#93
On August 21 2010 20:19 Dead9 wrote:
[image loading]


Your using the unit editer in which the marines have nowhere to run. Totally out of context.

But I too expected it turn out this way. It was frustrating when I found it wasn't.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
August 21 2010 20:06 GMT
#94
It didn't because he micro'd whereas you didn't.

Banelings are a fine counter to marines - when you flank them.

If you can't flank them because it's too hard, then just make infestors.

Also, if you had spent your minerals/gas on roaches + hydras and upgrades, and fought on creep, I doubt you would've lost.
moosh
Profile Joined May 2009
United States118 Posts
August 21 2010 20:09 GMT
#95
On August 21 2010 20:26 Cade)Flayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 20:19 Dead9 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Seriously... That Zerg in the replay was just beyond awful with his unit control. Keep your units in a ball and attack move, it's not hard. The problem with the Zerg in that game is that every fight he streamed his units in in a big conga line.

Embarrassing.


Keep your units in a ball and attack move? You don't play Zerg do you...
moosh
Profile Joined May 2009
United States118 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 20:25:36
August 21 2010 20:11 GMT
#96
On August 22 2010 05:06 Azarkon wrote:
It didn't because he micro'd whereas you didn't.

Banelings are a fine counter to marines - when you flank them.

If you can't flank them because it's too hard, then just make infestors.

Also, if you had spent your minerals/gas on roaches + hydras and upgrades, and fought on creep, I doubt you would've lost.


Yea, I should have gone infestors and roaches. I mean honestly once I had banelings out. I thought, oh this is over, the banelings will kill and my left over roaches and hydras will end game. Hence why, I may have gotten lazy with my tech. But the mariens come out SO fast to refortify. Especially with all the minerals you get with mules. I was NOT expecting that. Terran is the new swarm.
eth3n
Profile Joined August 2010
718 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 20:34:21
August 21 2010 20:28 GMT
#97
Idra Potter: I don't use avada kedavra because i have self-respect.
moosh
Profile Joined May 2009
United States118 Posts
August 21 2010 20:31 GMT
#98
uhh how come i get a warning from tl.bot when one of the mods came on here with the single most unconstructive and insulting posts... is this just how it's done in this community?
Treeplant
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States214 Posts
August 21 2010 20:48 GMT
#99
On August 22 2010 05:31 moosh wrote:
uhh how come i get a warning from tl.bot when one of the mods came on here with the single most unconstructive and insulting posts... is this just how it's done in this community?


Because you keep ignoring the posts explaining why you lost, which is just that you are plain bad and have terrible macro. Instead of acknowledging this, you continue to selectively respond to posts that discuss balance and unit compositions, as if you were actually at a level of play where that matters. You have bad macro. He could of massed ghosts and 1a'd into you for an easy win. Stop talking about balance and units when you don't even understand how to create units properly.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 21 2010 20:57 GMT
#100
On August 22 2010 05:01 moosh wrote:
funny cuz top tier players are also complaining about zvt... and you have to be a to tier player to complain? wow thats super great thinking...

Top tier players also never complain about bio. As far as I'm aware, any diamond zerg would jump for joy if they saw a Terran stupid enough to go pure bio in TvZ.
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