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TeCh)PsylO
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Thread created by: Commander[SB] United States. March 05 2004 01:15. Posts 2122 Now Property of: Teroru Canada. March 05 2004 15:09. Posts 543 | ||
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Mora
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On March 05 2004 14:27 Ready2[ESC] wrote: lets take a gay couple for example. lets say they adopt a girl. that girl one day has her first period. being that she only has male parents there wont be anyone close to her that knows what she is going through. noone that can truly understand her. sure a gynaecologist could but its not the same as talking about it with her mom is it? and thats just one example there are numerous others. One of her fathers could be a gynaecologist. *or* if they are 2 men, and assuming they have a brain, might adopt a *son*. ::MUTUAL GASP::. | ||
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Mora
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On March 05 2004 14:09 Ready2[ESC] wrote: thats funny. my eyes deteriorated from +1.0 to -1.1 because of watching tv very closely when I was a kid. (or so my eyedoctors said. yep not one) damn I never knew my eye-glasses were just a myth  Well, your professional doctors told you what they did. My professional doctors told me what they did. So whose right? My point still stands. I had a concept underneath the example. u tried to discount the example. Assuming u had discounted the example, u have still the concept to discout. | ||
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Bill and Bill
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TeCh)PsylO
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Terrou, Simple Question: Do you think a kid would be more likely to turn out homosexual if his parents were straight or gay? considering how many people have "turned out" to be gay who were from straight parents, this is a silly question. it also implies, that turning out to be gay is wrong. who cares if they turn out to be gay? as a parent, my job has nothing to do with my childrens sexual orientation, i dont see why gay parents would be any differant. | ||
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Mora
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On March 05 2004 14:47 Ready2[ESC] wrote: because balance between good and evil is very real a bit naive there are we?btw applause for you keeping it cool again If the only flaw u can find in my arguement is that im losing my cool, than u have lost the arguement. im 18, and a victim of much hate. Im young, and struggling to understand why so many people can hate me without ever even knowing my name. They hate me because i am different, and for no other reason. I would argue that i am not losing my cool. I retaliate with agression and precision. The moment i lose my cool is when logic goes out the window, and mindless flaming takes place. Ok, i did lose my cool in a few posts, forgive my homosexual inferiority, i will try to work on it . (note the space-period) | ||
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On March 05 2004 15:06 Bill and Bill wrote: Terrou, Simple Question: Do you think a kid would be more likely to turn out homosexual if his parents were straight or gay? Since every single homosexual i know came from heterosexual parents, i would say it has no fucking effect at all. | ||
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On March 05 2004 15:11 TranCe wrote: "Gay Marriage has come to Portland" @Http://www.Teamliquid.net/ Thread created by: Commander[SB] United States. March 05 2004 01:15. Posts 2122 Now Property of: Teroru Canada. March 05 2004 15:09. Posts 543 Trance <3 | ||
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DV8
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On March 05 2004 14:16 Teroru wrote: in the form of insight and sheer presence? Yeah, thats true. And a professor of philosophy and a professor of physics will by far be able to provide more insight than a garbage man and a welfare mom. Heterosexuals do *not* have more insight than a homosexual simply because of their sexuality. They *may have more insight; but this is because of their experiences in life and what they can share, not because they are attracted to the same sex. No, you have me mistaken, What I ment was, can 2 males provide more insight on their female counterpart than a female can? | ||
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Bill and Bill
United States167 Posts
On March 05 2004 15:17 Teroru wrote: Since every single homosexual i know came from heterosexual parents, i would say it has no fucking effect at all. good logic......  | ||
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Mora
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On March 05 2004 15:14 Bill and Bill wrote: They might adopt a son and raise him to be just like them! *gasp*! Ur right, if i raise a son, i will raise him to be just like me. He will be tolerant, understanding, responsible, educated, honest, compassionate, and most importantly, he will be accepted for whatever fucking seuxality he is. | ||
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TeCh)PsylO
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No, you have me mistaken, What I ment was, can 2 males provide more insight on their female counterpart than a female can? are you saying its a lack of female AND male perspective that is the prob? | ||
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Mora
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On March 05 2004 15:19 DV8 wrote: No, you have me mistaken, What I ment was, can 2 males provide more insight on their female counterpart than a female can? What do u mean by female counterpart? Tell me what a male lacks in teaching his male son, that he cant possibly provide that a female can. And then tell me if every single women in the world has the ability to provide that. And then tell me that that reason is enough to not allow fags to have children. | ||
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DV8
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On March 05 2004 14:24 Teroru wrote: "personally the teen suicide rate will go up". Personally? As in your person? As in ur own suicide rate will go up? Or do u mean 'personally, i think'. Well, sir, what u 'personally think' is flawed. U say that my kid will not be ready for society because i am gay. I argue that my kid will be more equipped to handle society *because* i am gay. I will teach him that people will blindly hate, and that u must defend yourself against such people, but not hate them. I will teach that there are people who surf forums and talk out of their ass without using their brain, but that you can ignore these people. I will teach that u can be stronger than any hate directed towards you, and that u will be better for it. You condemn me for the effects that my sexuality will have on my kid. i condemn you for encouraging those effects by perceiving them in the first place. I have not condemn you, alot or our society has though, I am being a realist, and if you were too than you would understand that not every gay couple wanting children will not raise them the same way as you. Not all gay couples will be great parents, because ::Gasp:: they are human and that makes them fallible, So what happens to the child living with the not so great gay parents growing up in the society we live in? Do I promote the society we live in, No, but I do acknowledge it is what it is. | ||
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DV8
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On March 05 2004 15:11 Teroru wrote: One of her fathers could be a gynaecologist. *or* if they are 2 men, and assuming they have a brain, might adopt a *son*. ::MUTUAL GASP::. Once again you set yourself as some gay icon, not every gay person will be as you, what if the situation describes happens, what than? the child is basically lacking a mother, the only way she would get any insight is if she had a female friend as to whom she trusts and that's where I pity the child for being in the situation they had no choice being in. | ||
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Ryan307 :)
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although he's gotten a litle too graphic at times ;] | ||
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TeCh)PsylO
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baal
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On March 05 2004 15:22 Teroru wrote: What do u mean by female counterpart? Tell me what a male lacks in teaching his male son, that he cant possibly provide that a female can. And then tell me if every single women in the world has the ability to provide that. And then tell me that that reason is enough to not allow fags to have children. Women are different from men, a man can never provide an education a woman can and viceversa... but even so, i dont think that is a strong argument against gay adoption. Ill repeat it, its not fair using this childs as battery rams against the world societ to open up their minds. You must prepare the soil for the seeds, you dont make the seeds prepare the soil got it? | ||
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DV8
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On March 05 2004 15:36 TeCh)PsylO wrote: i hate to break it to you, but many straight parents are horrible parents, and dont provide any meaningful perspective of any kind. so is it necessary to some kind of good parenting licsence? two adults who are activly seeking children and who have planed on parenthood are going to be far better parents than the average young couple who forgot to where a condom one drunken night. if the only real issue is the quality of parenting and the perspective that a parent can offer a child, than the issue is a far greater one than that of just gay couples. You also forget to take society into account, We can't magically change society in one day and as I said it is what it is, So you are more fortunate to be living with good heterosexual parents than with 2 homosexual parents, because the child will not be lacking of wisdom from either sex and they won't be singled out and attacked for having grown up with gay parents, its needless suffering that no matter how hard you try you can't prevent. I mean take a look at black people today I mean conditions have certainly improved since the 1950's but I have yet to meet one black person who hasn't been victimized by racism in one form or another. | ||
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