EPTor is there no such thing as marriage by the state and its just called civil union? sort of confused here :O
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pyogenes
Brazil1401 Posts
or is there no such thing as marriage by the state and its just called civil union? sort of confused here :O | ||
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TigG
Spain369 Posts
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ObsoleteLogic
United States3676 Posts
Its not as though there is anything governmentally different between a civil union and a civil marriage. However, the reason there are tax cuts/benefits etc for married couples is because they have children asdfklajs;dflkasgdflaskh !!!!!!!! sigh. | ||
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pyogenes
Brazil1401 Posts
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DooMeR
United States1519 Posts
 ) is smart enough to know whats right.Personnally, i HATE the lifestyle, but if i met a gay person, i would treat them the exact same way as anyone else, cuz what they do dont affect me. so dont start with the homophobia shit Honestly. what will they think of next, WOMEN WITH JOBS? --; | ||
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Vietnam_Oi
Vietnam120 Posts
I believe it's proven that from many gay men the brain is more siding to the female functioning then from hetero men. have they experimented with 'true' transvestites or people who are completely of another sex in another sex and seen 99.9% functioning like the other gender siding to female function would mean they like men...ok, but how does that make two people who side with women attract when they wanted 'real men' or do they prefer men who function more like women. do lesbians also lean towards male functioning... | ||
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TigG
Spain369 Posts
On March 05 2004 10:40 ObsoleteLogic wrote: Excal I love you. How many times have homosexual males gotten each other pregnant? I ask because I know of cases in which "infertile" couples have conceived. If there is only a .0001% chance of a heterosexual couple conceiving, thats a) still justifiable for marriage and b) a much higher chance than a pair of homosexuals have. As far as impotent/post-menopausal couples, well, they already did that song and dance, and I don't think they'll be doing it anymore, eh? Drop your anti-Biblical bias for a second and consider the term "One flesh". Keeping that in mind, try for once to assume a purely logical position and consider the human anatomy. Male + Male = excess! Female + Female = lack! Male + Female = I think we have a winner! C'mon, now. It isn't that hard to see that there is a way the world is supposed to work, is it? There are many things needless in this world, but fortunatley some of us (most of us do, as long as we have internet) do have them. Why do you need to play video games, travel around the world, or having sex with condom? In most cases it takes you nowhere, but we do it because, in my opinion, it helps us reach happiness, which in the end should be everyones goal (for many ppl surviving is still their major and most difficult goal :-/ ). And happines, being materialistic, makes people work harder & better (this is a fact). What i mean is that a marriage can be the way to reach happiness for two persons, and by doing this they harm nobody, so why should we deny it? just because it's unmoral for you? Think about how you would act if they banned BW, or your biggest hobbie, from your country. And for that guy who said "gays aren't born like that, they can change". That's wrong as far i as am concerned. I too was atonished becouse a guy didn't feel sexual atraction to a woman, but a simple example made me changed my point of view. Do you find a man sexually atractive? if you are hetero you'll say NO!. Same for gays. They are just born different from us. Of course i think hetero is the-way-we-should-be, but hey, mother nature made some mistakes when defining their sexuality, and we should be enough civiliced to accept them. Anyway, in a world where leisure is something very important (as i said, it's very important in the first world, i think it doesn't matter if a small percentage decides not to have children. | ||
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Sky101
United States1758 Posts
Edit: directed to Vietnam_Oi | ||
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
On March 05 2004 01:43 Beyonder wrote: The point that it is proven to be very important for a child to have both a father and a mother. so single parents shouldn't be allowed to adopt, right? | ||
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TigG
Spain369 Posts
There are cases in which male or female anymals try to fuck with anymals of their same sex. A saw a chicken trying to fuck another chicken. That was so fcking hilarious, she keeped on trying, not realising she didn't have dick. And i was told she did that continuosly, not only once in a while. She also tried to fight against the roosters trying to fuck her. What i do doubt is the amount of gays there seems to be. I don't think nature makes SO many mistakes (as a gay person is a mistake for nature). This is something i'll also like to discuss about. | ||
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rplant
United States1178 Posts
 I still don't think we understand the issue and am having trouble finding any source that clearly defines the crap everyone's discussing so passionately. What was the Massachusetts Supreme Court ruling? What makes marriage different from civil unions? Reading this article here about the ruling in MA, it seems to me that fags aren't allowed civil unions: http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/11/18/samesex.ruling/, which in my opinion they should be. "Whether and whom to marry, how to express sexual intimacy, and whether and how to establish a family -- these are among the most basic of every individual's liberty and due process rights," the majority opinion said. "And central to personal freedom and security is the assurance that the laws will apply equally to persons in similar situations. | ||
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Ready2[ESC]
Hungary1436 Posts
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Ilintar
Poland794 Posts
) and should be revoked, gay people shouldn't be discriminated in any way because that's simply not fair. But promoting something that is against the human nature just because there's a large lobby group is going a little too far... | ||
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Tolstoy
Canada144 Posts
Many of the people who disagree with gay marriage are those that grew up in a much more conservative age. One where they had responsibilities. They are unwilling to let go of these rules which they followed as children, because they see what their society was like compared to what it is today, and while there may be more freedom there is 1000000x the filth to go along with it. Their is something to be said about traditional values that most of the youth of today pass off as dinosaur talk. Just take a look outside and see the results. And Excalibur_Z -- that was the most moronic post I have ever seen and you are a complete fuckin moron if you believe half the stuff you said. I have a gay brother who has a bachelors in theology, then a dualmajor history/polisci and now is in his masters program for intelligence and a TA for christian history classes at Carlton. He has been a practicing Christian this whole time and knows and believes 100x more in God than you ever will. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28695 Posts
same with gay abortion. if people stopped making fun of people for being gay or having gay parents, that wouldn't be a problem, but people sure as hell won't stop making fun of people for having gay parents when it's incredibly rare. 50 years ago the people against gay people had the same opinions regarding black people. is them being allowed to sit on the white seats on the bus and to go into the white stores a bad thing? I dont think so at least! | ||
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z7-TranCe
Canada3158 Posts
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Tolstoy
Canada144 Posts
On March 05 2004 13:26 Liquid`Drone wrote: 50 years ago the people against gay people had the same opinions regarding black people.  Thats a pretty shallow statement Drone. | ||
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Ready2[ESC]
Hungary1436 Posts
On March 05 2004 13:26 Liquid`Drone wrote: only thing wrong with gay marriage is the people unwilling to accept it. same with gay abortion. if people stopped making fun of people for being gay or having gay parents, that wouldn't be a problem, but people sure as hell won't stop making fun of people for having gay parents when it's incredibly rare. 50 years ago the people against gay people had the same opinions regarding black people. is them being allowed to sit on the white seats on the bus and to go into the white stores a bad thing? I dont think so at least! yeah sure they were the same ppl. plz dont be dumb. you only say that because as a liberal you hate them for discriminating ppl but your comparison is not even remotely good. being black is not a deviance but being gay is. btw you are doing the "Slippery Slope" fallacy acording to the aforementioned site (http://www.intrepidsoftware.com/fallacy/ss.php) you compare ppl against gay marriage to ppl against black ppl and assume that this comparison is right. then you continue with racism which is a totaly different thing and assuming that these ppl are racist too. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28695 Posts
are you offended because you're pro gay people but anti black?  | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
Being that i am only a homosexual, inferior to the 'natural' heterosexuals, i suggest you just skip my posts. Being, however, that most of you 'natural' heteroseuxal's are uneducated, prejudiced, and out-right wrong, i'm annoyed, angered, and hurt, and so feel like i must respond - even if ignored. Be prepared for a long string of posts by TL.net's very own unnatural homosexual. --- On March 05 2004 01:33 DV8 wrote: Only thing I have against gay marriage, is it prolly furthers the chance of them adopting children and that is really my only issue with it, other than that let them do as they please. The only thing i have against the freedom for any person (or couple rather) to have kids, is that they are not tested to do so. This goes for heterosexuals and homosexuals. | ||
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