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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
February 28 2010 15:07 GMT
#181
wow just finished catching up on this thread and there is a LOT of whining

it's like a 12 hour delay on a YOUTUBE VIDEO

some people act like we didn't have a 9 month delay of beta. where's the patience?
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
February 28 2010 15:13 GMT
#182
On March 01 2010 00:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
where's the patience?


Nowhere - and that's exactly the problem. ^^'

Maybe some ritalin will help... or heroin. xD
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Signus
Profile Joined February 2009
United States269 Posts
February 28 2010 15:24 GMT
#183
On February 28 2010 23:53 Jazriel wrote:
MLG is a horrible company, people are only now realizing that?

Don't even get me started on their ridiculous rule-sets for the games they play. I wouldn't be surprised if they ban cheeses or rush strats or something equally lame if they decide to take on SC2.


What do you mean ridiculous rule-sets? The rules for Halo 3 are only because Bungie messed up on the game a bit and they limit the weapons to the ones that are actually used at a competitive level. I can't think of any other games where they tinker with things, so I doubt Starcraft 2 will have anything like that.
Jazriel
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada404 Posts
February 28 2010 16:05 GMT
#184
On March 01 2010 00:24 Signus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2010 23:53 Jazriel wrote:
MLG is a horrible company, people are only now realizing that?

Don't even get me started on their ridiculous rule-sets for the games they play. I wouldn't be surprised if they ban cheeses or rush strats or something equally lame if they decide to take on SC2.


What do you mean ridiculous rule-sets? The rules for Halo 3 are only because Bungie messed up on the game a bit and they limit the weapons to the ones that are actually used at a competitive level. I can't think of any other games where they tinker with things, so I doubt Starcraft 2 will have anything like that.


The Halo 2 rules were garbage. It's been so long I barely remember but they banned the sword? They had some really retarded variants only snipers on colossus?

Oh and what was it, starting weapon was SMG? On coag? LOL

Halo 3 I don't know anything about 'cause that game is garbage and watching "MLG Pro's" play make me cringe at wasted shots and poor play. Way too many bugs/exploits/glitches/problems to take that game seriously. I am aware though that MLG has been getting better, but the company is still pretty pathetic from my point of view (as uneducated and outdated as it is).
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-Frog-
Profile Joined February 2009
United States514 Posts
February 28 2010 16:09 GMT
#185
The Halo 2 rules were garbage. It's been so long I barely remember but they banned the sword? They had some really retarded variants only snipers on colossus?

Oh and what was it, starting weapon was SMG? On coag? LOL

Halo 3 I don't know anything about 'cause that game is garbage and watching "MLG Pro's" play make me cringe at wasted shots and poor play. Way too many bugs/exploits/glitches/problems to take that game seriously. I am aware though that MLG has been getting better, but the company is still pretty pathetic from my point of view (as uneducated and outdated as it is).


banned sword? snipers only? SMG start? this must have been in like 04 or something because those were most definitely NOT the rules during the height of halo 2's popularity. i don't see how you can think a company is pathetic when you have already admitted you are uneducated on it's policies.

simply ridiculous
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Jazriel
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada404 Posts
February 28 2010 16:24 GMT
#186
On March 01 2010 01:09 frog HERO wrote:
Show nested quote +
The Halo 2 rules were garbage. It's been so long I barely remember but they banned the sword? They had some really retarded variants only snipers on colossus?

Oh and what was it, starting weapon was SMG? On coag? LOL

Halo 3 I don't know anything about 'cause that game is garbage and watching "MLG Pro's" play make me cringe at wasted shots and poor play. Way too many bugs/exploits/glitches/problems to take that game seriously. I am aware though that MLG has been getting better, but the company is still pretty pathetic from my point of view (as uneducated and outdated as it is).


banned sword? snipers only? SMG start? this must have been in like 04 or something because those were most definitely NOT the rules during the height of halo 2's popularity. i don't see how you can think a company is pathetic when you have already admitted you are uneducated on it's policies.

simply ridiculous


A company that starts poorly and even today allows cheats like BXR couldn't possibly have a good/positive track record.
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-Frog-
Profile Joined February 2009
United States514 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-28 16:45:48
February 28 2010 16:45 GMT
#187
On March 01 2010 01:24 Jazriel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2010 01:09 frog HERO wrote:
The Halo 2 rules were garbage. It's been so long I barely remember but they banned the sword? They had some really retarded variants only snipers on colossus?

Oh and what was it, starting weapon was SMG? On coag? LOL

Halo 3 I don't know anything about 'cause that game is garbage and watching "MLG Pro's" play make me cringe at wasted shots and poor play. Way too many bugs/exploits/glitches/problems to take that game seriously. I am aware though that MLG has been getting better, but the company is still pretty pathetic from my point of view (as uneducated and outdated as it is).


banned sword? snipers only? SMG start? this must have been in like 04 or something because those were most definitely NOT the rules during the height of halo 2's popularity. i don't see how you can think a company is pathetic when you have already admitted you are uneducated on it's policies.

simply ridiculous


A company that starts poorly and even today allows cheats like BXR couldn't possibly have a good/positive track record.


What do you mean "even today" allows cheats like BXR? Halo 2 isn't played anymore so that argument is completely invalid not to mention the fact that you are calling the BXR a cheat is highly debatable and it definitely brought a skill requirement to playing H2. That would be like saying using hold lurkers shouldn't be allowed because the game developers didn't intend it.

As for your "a company who starts poorly couldn't possibly have a good/positive track record argument," how can you possibly view things in life that way? You don't believe people/organizations can change to make themselves better?

Everything you have said so far has either been 1) incorrect or 2) ridiculously biased. Please take a moment to actually research MLG before you go bashing it because I think MLG picking up SC2 could be really great for the American starcraft scene and there's no reason to blindly hate them.
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Hasire
Profile Joined February 2010
United States125 Posts
February 28 2010 16:45 GMT
#188
Everyone knows the only weapon in Halo is the Battle Rifle.


I did find that what they did with CoD games to be absurd, they took out much of the gameplay to make it 'balanced'.
BladeRunner
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States407 Posts
February 28 2010 16:50 GMT
#189
The idea of having certain units/abilities/strategies banned by an external group because they don't trust Blizzard's ability to balance doesn't sound very appealing to me as a viewer, because I want the game I play to be the same game the pros play.. I've read the book "playing to win" so I'm a hardcore "if it's possible it's legal" type guy heh.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
February 28 2010 16:54 GMT
#190
that's a pretty radical philosophy lol
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
February 28 2010 16:56 GMT
#191
On March 01 2010 01:50 BladeRunner wrote:
I'm a hardcore "if it's possible it's legal" type guy heh.

I hope you mean just in games.

Because it's possible to kill some one.
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hoborg
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States430 Posts
February 28 2010 17:01 GMT
#192
MLG should consider teaming up with this reputable magazine in co-sponsorship:

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BladeRunner
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States407 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-28 17:05:55
February 28 2010 17:02 GMT
#193
Ah that came out wrong I just mean in games yeah, competitive games I can't stand when somebody loses and they're like "oh, that's so overpowered you can't use that, etc etc"

Here's some pages I'm referring to

http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/cheating.html
http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/how-far-should-you-go-to-win.html

Sirlin refers to "tournament legal" a lot and I guess in MLG's case they would set the rule, but I still don't like the idea of having big adjustments or balancing rules. If there are game breaking bugs they can ban those I guess but otherwise I'd be less than overjoyed.
hacpee
Profile Joined November 2007
United States752 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-28 17:06:58
February 28 2010 17:06 GMT
#194
Guys I heard MLG was hosting a tourney, its gonna be NR10. Also, if there's a power outage, Jaedong wins.
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
February 28 2010 17:07 GMT
#195
On March 01 2010 01:56 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2010 01:50 BladeRunner wrote:
I'm a hardcore "if it's possible it's legal" type guy heh.

I hope you mean just in games.

Because it's possible to kill some one.


Of course he's talking about games. The book he's referring to is here http://www.sirlin.net/ptw . It outlines the philosophy of someone trying to win at a game (using the rules of the game, not by cheating and so on). The things in there are mostly obvious, but if you show it to enough people, you'll be shocked how their mindset conflicts entirely.
defire
Profile Joined July 2009
United States7 Posts
February 28 2010 17:19 GMT
#196
On March 01 2010 01:05 Jazriel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2010 00:24 Signus wrote:
On February 28 2010 23:53 Jazriel wrote:
MLG is a horrible company, people are only now realizing that?

Don't even get me started on their ridiculous rule-sets for the games they play. I wouldn't be surprised if they ban cheeses or rush strats or something equally lame if they decide to take on SC2.


What do you mean ridiculous rule-sets? The rules for Halo 3 are only because Bungie messed up on the game a bit and they limit the weapons to the ones that are actually used at a competitive level. I can't think of any other games where they tinker with things, so I doubt Starcraft 2 will have anything like that.


The Halo 2 rules were garbage. It's been so long I barely remember but they banned the sword? They had some really retarded variants only snipers on colossus?

Oh and what was it, starting weapon was SMG? On coag? LOL

Halo 3 I don't know anything about 'cause that game is garbage and watching "MLG Pro's" play make me cringe at wasted shots and poor play. Way too many bugs/exploits/glitches/problems to take that game seriously. I am aware though that MLG has been getting better, but the company is still pretty pathetic from my point of view (as uneducated and outdated as it is).


We have a winner here, Coagulation was never an MLG map, every map started with a BR no secondary, and most of MLG's rules are based on the input of the pros. Now you should stop bashing a company unless you either; play under contract for them and know these things, or actually attend an event and see for yourself. Don't blindly try bashing MLG because some youtube video isn't up on their first attempt at doing something like this. At least they are actually showing interest and willing to bring us a show match, because I didn't see any other company jumping the gun.
I hate probes.
StalinRusH
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States734 Posts
February 28 2010 17:24 GMT
#197
gahh where are the vods already >_< all i have to say is it better be up after tsl
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hacpee
Profile Joined November 2007
United States752 Posts
February 28 2010 17:25 GMT
#198
On March 01 2010 02:19 defire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2010 01:05 Jazriel wrote:
On March 01 2010 00:24 Signus wrote:
On February 28 2010 23:53 Jazriel wrote:
MLG is a horrible company, people are only now realizing that?

Don't even get me started on their ridiculous rule-sets for the games they play. I wouldn't be surprised if they ban cheeses or rush strats or something equally lame if they decide to take on SC2.


What do you mean ridiculous rule-sets? The rules for Halo 3 are only because Bungie messed up on the game a bit and they limit the weapons to the ones that are actually used at a competitive level. I can't think of any other games where they tinker with things, so I doubt Starcraft 2 will have anything like that.


The Halo 2 rules were garbage. It's been so long I barely remember but they banned the sword? They had some really retarded variants only snipers on colossus?

Oh and what was it, starting weapon was SMG? On coag? LOL

Halo 3 I don't know anything about 'cause that game is garbage and watching "MLG Pro's" play make me cringe at wasted shots and poor play. Way too many bugs/exploits/glitches/problems to take that game seriously. I am aware though that MLG has been getting better, but the company is still pretty pathetic from my point of view (as uneducated and outdated as it is).


We have a winner here, Coagulation was never an MLG map, every map started with a BR no secondary, and most of MLG's rules are based on the input of the pros. Now you should stop bashing a company unless you either; play under contract for them and know these things, or actually attend an event and see for yourself. Don't blindly try bashing MLG because some youtube video isn't up on their first attempt at doing something like this. At least they are actually showing interest and willing to bring us a show match, because I didn't see any other company jumping the gun.


Didn't Wemade have a showmatch Nada vs Moon?
Rothbardian
Profile Joined January 2010
United States497 Posts
February 28 2010 17:31 GMT
#199
MLG is a reputable E-Sports company. I played Halo a lot, and the rulesets were the most balanced. I also played with guys who went to MLG events all the time, and the community for Halo MLG, is as big or bigger as the community for SC in the foreign scene.

As to that, I'm glad they are picking up SCII. Don't you guys want SCII to take off in NA? Well, through MLG it has a good shot, and not to mention whatever else SCII pops up on. MLG has corporate sponsors so its not like it's some small time know-nothing.

Anyways, looking forward to the matches on YT. This is their first foray into this, so be a little patient and don't bite the hand that feeds :p
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Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
February 28 2010 17:38 GMT
#200
The bitching and moaning in this thread makes me want to puke. In the first post by itmeJP he said they were expecting hiccups as this was the first time they were covering StarCraft 2. He didn't say it would be up very soon and to wait. Chill out.
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