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brn4meplz
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada98 Posts
February 28 2010 10:12 GMT
#161
So no go until later.

Asshats
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ven
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany332 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-28 10:14:02
February 28 2010 10:12 GMT
#162
On February 28 2010 19:09 kickinhead wrote:
Is this MLG this US-League which was also televised and have those hilarious team-names like football-teams and stuff? Like "The Oklahoma Mexican Staring Frog's of souther Sri-Lanka?".


I think you're referring to the CGS. They had team names like Carolina Core or LA Complexity.
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aikepah
Profile Joined November 2009
United States115 Posts
February 28 2010 10:15 GMT
#163
On February 28 2010 19:05 zerglingsfolife wrote:
I'm glad I stayed up 2 more hours to watch the video,,, then I got the result spoiled on Psyonics stream. Then I found out the video isn't coming out tonight.

Also, those articles on the MLG don't exactly paint them in the best light either.


Sorry you had to waste 2 hours.

I don't know anything about MLG really so I wont say anything good or bad about them, but those articles don't look too bad. The rules are being taken out of context I think. When it says no sponsor names, I don't think it means "EG" or "Pandemic" I think it means the actuall sponsors of EG, such as Steelseries. So I think your CS team can be called "EvilGeniuses" but not "SteelSeriesOwners" or something like that. MLG isn't that bad, at least they aren't like the CPL who owe progamers hundreds of thousands of dollars. You guys remember back in the early days of starcraft in korea where they wore space suits and stuff on TV? That's because the TV Network told them that's what they should wear, the problem is the TV station wouldn't air it if they didn't make money, and it's hard to make money if all the advertising money goes just to the players and not to the network. Why buy ad time when you can just pay a gamer to put on your shirt? But then as esports grew in korea they started letting players wear sponsor's uniforms because the network had enough viewers to support what they needed.

MLG has been around for a while and I haven't heard anything too bad about them, so I wouldn't go calling them a bad thing for esports.

I don't know how they will do with SC2, but I think the way they do things we will have a lot of newer players to the scene, and not just the same 10 americans we always hear about.
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-28 10:22:06
February 28 2010 10:21 GMT
#164
On February 28 2010 19:12 ven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2010 19:09 kickinhead wrote:
Is this MLG this US-League which was also televised and have those hilarious team-names like football-teams and stuff? Like "The Oklahoma Mexican Staring Frog's of souther Sri-Lanka?".


I think you're referring to the CGS. They had team names like Carolina Core or LA Complexity.


haha, yeah, I think it was that one then. ^^'

But: On this MLG-Site, I pretty much only see Halo3 and WoW-Videos, I think that's kinda sad, because WoW suxx apparantly and even harder in PvP and even harder when watching it (when ur not a WoW-uber-nerd at least) and Halo3 may be a big thing in the US, but the rest of Pro-Gamers or SemiPro's or whatever don't really give 2 cents about it.

Thats a good thing about SC2 I guess: It just reaches everywhere were gaming is a Topic. That was the only good thing about WoW-Broadcasting: Shows could get sponsoring when televising WoW, because of the huge amount of players. Just sad that this audience is playing WoW all day and doesn't care about "PvP-Pro's" and because it's so confusing and not really interesting to watch, nobody else watched either. xD
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Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
February 28 2010 10:26 GMT
#165
ahahah my sincerest apologies to all here. I actually credit myself for the bulk of everyone's disappointment. I promoted my little heart out because I was pumped for the event! However, I misunderstood and thought the stream was going to be live. Then, it turned out it was going to be recorded and I said they'd be posted earlier. Then, I find this out! My bad!

It's a good thing this was the first test run, getting all this junk out of the way. As we found out, there were quite a few technical hiccups due to the B.net 2.0 and party systems. Still a fun event so look forward to the videos when they arrive 8]
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D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
February 28 2010 11:10 GMT
#166
I should have gone to sleep hours ago but stayed up to watch his ... such disapointment.
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thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-28 11:30:35
February 28 2010 11:30 GMT
#167
On February 28 2010 19:26 Day[9] wrote:
ahahah my sincerest apologies to all here. I actually credit myself for the bulk of everyone's disappointment. I promoted my little heart out because I was pumped for the event! However, I misunderstood and thought the stream was going to be live. Then, it turned out it was going to be recorded and I said they'd be posted earlier. Then, I find this out! My bad!

It's a good thing this was the first test run, getting all this junk out of the way. As we found out, there were quite a few technical hiccups due to the B.net 2.0 and party systems. Still a fun event so look forward to the videos when they arrive 8]

It's not your fault. The VODs are on youtube, just not publicly, as I understand this. That means that it wasn't the fault of anyone on the production side, but the "higher ups" or whatever at MLG.

EDIT: Seriously, FUCK, I wanted to watch this so badly. I suppose tomorrow will have to do.
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4341 Posts
February 28 2010 11:34 GMT
#168
Sorry for those that were spoiled on my stream. LzGamer just couldn't keep the mouth shut. --
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
February 28 2010 12:08 GMT
#169
I don't really understand why big gaming organizations like ESL and MLG rely on YouTube for their videos (some kind of contract maybe?), unless they're going to be uploading in HD. Then it's nice to let YouTube foot the bandwidth bill, I guess.

Take a site like HoNcast (http://www.honcast.com). A small, independent site, but they're able to upload their movies as soon as the match concludes (though they rarely do it that quickly) without having to worry about a long "processing" time.

I'm not trying to talk shit or anything, just genuinely confused.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7003 Posts
February 28 2010 12:11 GMT
#170
Dyno., most of these big companies (Blizzard included) have contracts with youtube that benefit both parties, they're called "Youtube partners" or something along those lones.

No idea about exact terms but its clear that one of the reasons MLG for example has chosen youtube is simply the amount of visitors the site gets, now if they get a video on the frontpage millions of people will see it and if it gathers to their interests even view the video even if they never came there for MLG videos.
Tartantyco
Profile Joined February 2010
Norway17 Posts
February 28 2010 12:13 GMT
#171
On February 28 2010 21:08 Dyno. wrote:
I don't really understand why big gaming organizations like ESL and MLG rely on YouTube for their videos


Increased exposure. If they pretty much limited everything to their own website they'd have to advertise more, but youtube already has a massive user base and those interested are likely to search for something ESL/MLG provide on youtube. Free advertisement and a service provided free of charge for them, it's a good deal .
member1987
Profile Joined February 2010
141 Posts
February 28 2010 12:32 GMT
#172
So when will the vods be out, if ever?

Its pretty stupid to wait 24 hours for VODS after the game has finished.
Rufio
Profile Joined December 2009
241 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-28 13:49:07
February 28 2010 13:47 GMT
#173
On February 28 2010 20:34 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
Sorry for those that were spoiled on my stream. LzGamer just couldn't keep the mouth shut. --


That's okay. He apologized to the viewers seconds after he realized he spoiled. I'm still going to enjoy the games regardless.
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
February 28 2010 14:24 GMT
#174
i just woke up, is the video up yet?
PerksPlus
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada105 Posts
February 28 2010 14:28 GMT
#175
On February 28 2010 23:24 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
i just woke up, is the video up yet?


Not so much.
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Elec
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada136 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-28 14:32:56
February 28 2010 14:31 GMT
#176
On February 28 2010 18:56 thopol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2010 18:02 Puosu wrote:
Is it true that MLG forbids players from wearing team unfiroms and essentially you have to "sell your soul" to MLG to become a pro in their leagues? Thats what I've been reading about the Halo 3 professional scene.

And if its going to be like that for SC2 I really don't want them to enter the scene.. I guess they really can't do it like that in SC2 though because they don't have the same monopoly they had in Halo.

edit:
http://www.mlgpro.com/content/page/116416/MLG-Naming-Rules-Clarification
this alone is pretty fucking harsh imo.. it reaches the same level of nazism KeSPA does, why interfere with things that wont hurt them in anyway? Why does it matter if a team is called "Team Pandemic" for example or "Evil Gamers" or something..

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/MLG-Turns-Pro-Gaming-Into-Backstabbing-Travesty-14817.html
Does this mean MLG has this kind of control over the Halo 3 teams? Lol thats terrible whattf.

I think you have put down some good words here mate. The problem here is that every fucker is going to be trying to get a piece of SC2 ESPORTS bucks. If the better folks can really compete with the draconian fuckers, then we've got ourselves a situation the market's going to solve. If there isn't a lot of interest and there are only a few parties who are fronting prize money, then we've just gotta go with what works or abandon ESPORTS altogether. Now I want the SC2 scene to be competitive enough that nobody gets a KeSPA style hold over it, but now is early. I think that supporting the pro scene just by making the game competitive in the first few weeks is a good thing, whether or not the folks doing it are the idea human beings.

So, as ESPORTS as a whole goes, I have always felt that MLG is misguided. Not only that, but they have policies, which you have pointed out, that are infuriating and are stunting the growth of ESPORTS (the more sponsors that can get in on the action the better, right?). In the short term, very very short term, depending on how things end up unfolding, MLG can still be a good thing, getting people to practice and play. In the longer term, they will need to change or they will be a very bad thing. That's how I see it.



hmm after reading this ive been thinking

would blizzard entering the Esports scene be the best for everyone then?
blizzard doesn't have the same freedom of doing whatever they want because they have a reputation to life up to... would they really be the best option to be the leading figure of Esports for SC2... should they choose to?
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Elec
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada136 Posts
February 28 2010 14:32 GMT
#177
On February 28 2010 23:24 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
i just woke up, is the video up yet?


lol u beat me to it xD
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BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
February 28 2010 14:32 GMT
#178
On February 28 2010 21:08 Dyno. wrote:
I don't really understand why big gaming organizations like ESL and MLG rely on YouTube for their videos (some kind of contract maybe?), unless they're going to be uploading in HD. Then it's nice to let YouTube foot the bandwidth bill, I guess.

Take a site like HoNcast (http://www.honcast.com). A small, independent site, but they're able to upload their movies as soon as the match concludes (though they rarely do it that quickly) without having to worry about a long "processing" time.

I'm not trying to talk shit or anything, just genuinely confused.



wondered that too. and ust because they deserve it, bigup for honcast. never seen a site get so muchn high quality streams out in such a short time.esp since they started only like 3 months ago. they cast like evryday...
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404.Delirium
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1190 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-28 14:38:23
February 28 2010 14:37 GMT
#179
Can't wait to catch these vods =)

Thanks ya'll
seriously next disrespectful comment in this blog is ip ban. Be happy or get the hell out. // SC2 is like playing with neutral-colored Play-Doh while BW is like colorful Legos.
Jazriel
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada404 Posts
February 28 2010 14:53 GMT
#180
MLG is a horrible company, people are only now realizing that?

Don't even get me started on their ridiculous rule-sets for the games they play. I wouldn't be surprised if they ban cheeses or rush strats or something equally lame if they decide to take on SC2.
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