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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
October 01 2009 23:41 GMT
#181
On October 02 2009 06:30 PH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2009 03:31 shidonu wrote:
On October 02 2009 03:24 PH wrote:
English is dominated by vernacular...which in this case allows for it to be either two or four depending on the context.

Get over it.

Nope it can only be two.

On whose authority?



people can interpret it anyway they want, but that doesn't mean they're right.
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
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Engineer
Profile Joined September 2009
22 Posts
October 01 2009 23:48 GMT
#182
hahaha potheads at their finest...
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
October 01 2009 23:52 GMT
#183
4
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Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-02 00:03:56
October 02 2009 00:00 GMT
#184
Edit: Nevermind like 30 people already said it.
Masamune
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada3401 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-02 00:54:00
October 02 2009 00:52 GMT
#185
On October 02 2009 08:41 Divinek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2009 06:30 PH wrote:
On October 02 2009 03:31 shidonu wrote:
On October 02 2009 03:24 PH wrote:
English is dominated by vernacular...which in this case allows for it to be either two or four depending on the context.

Get over it.

Nope it can only be two.

On whose authority?



people can interpret it anyway they want, but that doesn't mean they're right.

Actually, I spoke to a Professor with their PhD in English and they said that it does depend on the context, however, it is more correct to refer to two siblings born on the same day as a pair of twins.

Yeah, I clicked on four people on inpulse today as well, but I guess it can be either/or, but two people is more correct, I think.
sith
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2474 Posts
October 02 2009 01:06 GMT
#186
wow this thread really generated some sweet reponses. on a related note, i had a great birthday and my friends gave up the argument because they are pussys. hurrah!
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
October 02 2009 01:08 GMT
#187
It's prescriptive grammar vs descriptive grammar and it's really stupid to say it can only be one or teh other
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Varn
Profile Joined December 2008
United States33 Posts
October 02 2009 02:16 GMT
#188
Did no one else find it ironic that a topic posing a grammatical question began as such:

On October 01 2009 10:29 sith wrote:
Me and my friends


On topic, my vote was for 4, simply because it is never necessary to use the syntax "a pair of" when referring to two individuals who are twins.

The phrase a pair of twins could be seen as a "pair of twin(s)," where twin is pluralized out of necessity because two are present, or as "a pair of twins," where the word twins itself is used as a collective noun referring to two people.
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Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
October 02 2009 02:20 GMT
#189
A twin is someone who is part of a set of twins. So a single twin is one person, and therefore a pair of twins is two. Duh.

4 would be "2 sets of twins"
aka Moletrap
shidonu
Profile Joined June 2009
United States50 Posts
October 02 2009 02:22 GMT
#190
The context does not matter! You will not find the word "twins" in a dictionary, just like you wont find "trucks", "trees", or "cows", rather you will find "twin" the plural being twins. Twins does not inherently mean two, it means more than one twin!

The only way you could take it to mean 4 people is if you, incorrectly, define twins as a singular noun meaning two people, which has nothing to do with context.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
October 02 2009 02:24 GMT
#191
4. How is this a debatable question? You need a plural noun to go with "pair". When do you ever say a pair of a singular noun?
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Varn
Profile Joined December 2008
United States33 Posts
October 02 2009 02:31 GMT
#192
On October 02 2009 11:22 shidonu wrote:
The context does not matter! You will not find the word "twins" in a dictionary, just like you wont find "trucks", "trees", or "cows", rather you will find "twin" the plural being twins. Twins does not inherently mean two, it means more than one twin!

The only way you could take it to mean 4 people is if you, incorrectly, define twins as a singular noun meaning two people, which has nothing to do with context.


If I say "trucks," "trees," or "cows," what number do you associate with them? If I say "twins," what number do you associate with that? Most plural nouns do not natively imply their existence in groups of a specific size. This is not the case with twins. That is why a pair of twins is ambiguous, while a pair of trucks is not. There is no circumstance in which you can pluralize the word truck and inherently refer to two trucks. There are overwhelming circumstances in which you can do this with twin.
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