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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
September 29 2009 13:38 GMT
#61
I predict more suicides.
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
September 29 2009 13:46 GMT
#62
I'm I the only one that's looking forward to real life Highlander? I'll be training while you fools try out SC2.
yooh
Profile Joined March 2009
China223 Posts
September 29 2009 13:51 GMT
#63
i wanna be 19 forever...
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
September 29 2009 13:54 GMT
#64
As long as we let the close minded baby boomers die off first.
georgir
Profile Joined May 2009
Bulgaria253 Posts
September 29 2009 13:54 GMT
#65
there are also other possible kinds of "living forever" that tech progress may soon give us. well perhaps not in 20 years, but seems inevitable to me eventually.

increasingly more powerful computers, brain-computer interfaces, ai research and nanotechnology might allow us to precisely measure and emulate single neuron activity for all the neurons in a brain at once. this could mean "mind upload" into mechanical replacements of the brain and/or the rest of our body for continued interaction with the physical world, or even an existence in a purely virtual world.
this also brings very interesting possibilities like copying minds - for backup purposes, for increased productivity, or just because we can. as computers get faster and faster, it also brings the possibility to get our minds work faster than real-time, but at the same time with the possible infinite expansion of the "human" population, it might also be the case that we will never have enough computing power... if multiple minds are emulated on a single computer or network, computing power for one's own mind might turn out to be a resource that we work for or compete against each other for and trade with instead of money... who knows.
there's some even crazier ideas like developing some kind of collective consciousness or whatnot.

yeah, i'm a dreamer. i'm stopping now before people figure out where i live and round me up in a nuthouse.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
September 29 2009 13:58 GMT
#66
If u were immortal and u knew it .. life would make no sense, but even worse : Would be a horrible disaster..

[ immortal in my understanding = to live forever ]

if u can kill yourself still.. its something different..
hatred outlives the hateful
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
September 29 2009 14:01 GMT
#67
Have we learned nothing from Metal Gear Solid?!?
♞
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
September 29 2009 14:09 GMT
#68
On September 29 2009 17:42 Scorch wrote:
Is immortality even desirable?

yeah

you can definitely hit olympic rank on iccup at that rate
POGGERS
Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
September 29 2009 14:10 GMT
#69
I think two decades is way too soon for us to achieve biological immortality.

I would imagine a few hundred years, probably longer than that, and that's assuming we have sufficient resources on Earth to continue doing the research that we are doing now.

One thing that a lot of people overlook, is that scientific research is always limited by the amount of resources available to do the research.
#1 KawaiiRice fan :D
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-29 14:11:39
September 29 2009 14:11 GMT
#70
boxer could be the first 300 yr old progamer if this were to happen! :O
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
September 29 2009 14:19 GMT
#71
Whoever discovers the gene of immortality of actually how to live 150-200 years should be killed asap imo. Today there are already TOO many people on the Earth and it's just gets more and more even without prolonged life. Green revolution or not, millions of people are starving at the moment too and the pension system..well let's just not talk about it.
ggaemo fan
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
September 29 2009 14:21 GMT
#72
On September 29 2009 23:10 Kyo Yuy wrote:
I think two decades is way too soon for us to achieve biological immortality.

I would imagine a few hundred years, probably longer than that, and that's assuming we have sufficient resources on Earth to continue doing the research that we are doing now.

One thing that a lot of people overlook, is that scientific research is always limited by the amount of resources available to do the research.

Another thing people overlook is the rate at which information technology advances. Humans in general have a hard time understanding the concept of exponential growth. Even if they do understand it in theory it is still very unintuitive for us. We tend to think of things in a linear manner.

We look at the technological advances that have happened during the last 30 years and project that the same amount will happen in the next thirty when in fact following the same exponential rate, many thousands of times more could happen in the next 30 years.
zwitter
Profile Joined July 2008
United States6 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-29 15:27:17
September 29 2009 15:24 GMT
#73
Not adding much to a pretty reasonable conversation going on here (though I have to say I do fall in the, practically speaking, if available to everyone on a large scale, "living forever" would have some major planetary implications ecologically... And, if not available to everyone, than internationally it could also get pretty politically "interesting"-- see the current state of who is and isn't a nuclear power, but magnify the animosity times a 1000).

All that doom and gloom out of the way, it does make a great science fiction plot (Kurzweil's contributed a few of these-- and don't get me wrong, I love thinking about this stuff)... But seriously folks, how has no one brought this up yet:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/04/Highlander.jpg

There can be only one!
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
September 29 2009 15:25 GMT
#74
On September 29 2009 19:53 phosphorylation wrote:
Perhaps the poll should be worded: Is your desired lifespan beyond what would be without intervention?


Wouldn't everyone have answered yes, then?
Unless everyone has a DNR.
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
September 29 2009 15:27 GMT
#75
On September 29 2009 23:09 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2009 17:42 Scorch wrote:
Is immortality even desirable?

yeah

you can definitely hit olympic rank on iccup at that rate


not really, because if everyone was immortal, it would be relative. I suppose you could argue some sort of absolute plateau effect, in which case, why would people play?
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
September 29 2009 15:30 GMT
#76
If people live to be 150 will they still take social security at 65? It'd mess up the system.
doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1319 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-29 15:37:40
September 29 2009 15:36 GMT
#77
On September 30 2009 00:30 Jonoman92 wrote:
If people live to be 150 will they still take social security at 65? It'd mess up the system.


Well I assume if they are using nanobots to completely counteract senescence then there would be no reason to offer social security at 65 a your body would still be physically 'young'. If it just kept us alive for longer while the repair/aging equilibrium was reached at a physically 'old' age I'm not sure it would even be worth taking up the offer.

For me at least being physically old for 90 years is no thx.
MSL, 2003-2011, RIP. OSL, 2000-2012, RIP. Proleague, 2003-2012, RIP. And then there was none... Even good things must come to an end.
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
September 29 2009 15:37 GMT
#78
Personally, I would love to live forever; sure my apm may have dropped abit, when I'm 150, but there's just so many builds and ways to play the game that I haven't tryed yet.
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Mah Buckit!
Profile Joined April 2009
Finland474 Posts
September 29 2009 15:39 GMT
#79
On September 29 2009 20:02 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2009 19:08 Mah Buckit! wrote:
Christians, muslims and all of that sort had this for hundreds of years already, nothing new to them atleast.

For the rest of us yay!


Life after death =/= immortality.

Edit: Besides, I'd rather not get into Heaven after I die. Imagine spending an eternity without booze, cigarettes, more than 1 sex position etc. etc.
Disaster.

Edit2: Yes, I'm a sinner and I like it.


To me continuing existence is the same as immortality. Maybe not in the same form but nonetheless. If you are paralyzed are you alive in different way than you would be otherwise?

The rest of us however will never have been when we die that is we didn´t exist, we do not exist and we will not exist. Unless we of course obtain some sort of immortality, which would be nice.
Starcraft? Epic Grimness.
eNoq
Profile Joined June 2009
Netherlands502 Posts
September 29 2009 15:40 GMT
#80


For open minded people, google John Lear, Bob Lazar, David Icke and Alex Collier.
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