EPTScientist claims immortality in 20 years or so - Page 2
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Loanshark
China3094 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
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so maybe they can keep our bodies living forever, but we are more than our bodies | ||
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
as opposed if he were a developmental biologist or something futurists make all kinds of projections based on trends and the past -- which is a noble and worthy pursuit, but not necessarily accurate | ||
micronesia
United States24680 Posts
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Mah Buckit!
Finland474 Posts
For the rest of us yay! | ||
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Aphelion
United States2720 Posts
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DrainX
Sweden3187 Posts
This is not about increasing the time we spend as "old". If this becomes true we will not have people getting "old" by 60 and then staying old the rest of their lives. The purpose is to increase the purposeful range of our lives. Pushing back aging, not pushing back death. I'm not sure Kurzweil's time frame are right. He has made a lot of very accurate predictions in the past. (He predicted which year a computer would first beat a human in chess, how and when the internet would become big and how long it would take to sequence our genome.) I don't see a reason why we wouldn't be able to reverse aging sooner or later even if the concept seems unfamiliar to us. Remember. We don't need to invent "immortality" all we need is for the rate that our average lifespan increases by to be one year every year and we have effectively outrun aging. That rate has been increasing linearly for a long time now ( i.e. our life expectancy has been increasing exponentially) and I see no reason why it would stop. | ||
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FR4CT4L
Australia697 Posts
http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/aubrey_de_grey_says_we_can_avoid_aging.html Rather interesting. I wouldn't mind a few hundred years life if you don't age either, I'd probably mimic Da Vinci and try to become a master of loads of things. | ||
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PobTheCad
Australia893 Posts
if you live until 150 then how long do you work until? 125? you can't have it that you work until 65 and then like another 85 years after that in retirement... | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
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DrainX
Sweden3187 Posts
On September 29 2009 19:34 SilverSkyLark wrote: Being an immortal would suck though. You could always commit suicide when you got tired of living. | ||
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mmp
United States2130 Posts
The world as a whole produces enough food and wealth to feed and sustain the global population but these are still major problems. | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
On September 29 2009 19:35 DrainX wrote: You could always commit suicide when you got tired of living. Yeah but it's a sin though... who would want to live forever anyway? Poll: Would you want to live forever? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No | ||
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
On September 29 2009 18:53 Oxygen wrote: If you weren't 40 in 20 years you'd understand. you're one year older than me, please enlighten me everything you've ever known comes from being alive, why wouldnt you want to be alive? would you rather nothing? i dont understand these people so keen to die | ||
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DrainX
Sweden3187 Posts
On September 29 2009 19:53 phosphorylation wrote: Perhaps the poll should be worded: Is your desired lifespan beyond what would be without intervention? We already have that though. Without any medical intervention our average lifespans would be half what they are today. The question should be: "Do you want to stop receiving medical treatment if science advances 'too far'?" or "Do you want to be able to decide for yourself when you want to die?" | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17257 Posts
On September 29 2009 19:08 Mah Buckit! wrote: Christians, muslims and all of that sort had this for hundreds of years already, nothing new to them atleast. For the rest of us yay! Life after death =/= immortality. Edit: Besides, I'd rather not get into Heaven after I die. Imagine spending an eternity without booze, cigarettes, more than 1 sex position etc. etc. Disaster. Edit2: Yes, I'm a sinner and I like it. | ||
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
On September 29 2009 18:12 Polis wrote: Yes it is. Brain is plastic, and the cells that it is build from are also in constant repair/exchange like any other part. I'm quite sure this isn't correct. We lose neurons everyday, our brain compensates by creating new connections with existing neurons, it doesn't replace them. If a neuron is destroyed, it's gone forever. If it were the case that brain tissue regenerated, we wouldn't have a problem with Parkinson's disease for example. | ||
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DrainX
Sweden3187 Posts
On September 29 2009 20:02 Salv wrote: I'm quite sure this isn't correct. We lose neurons everyday, our brain compensates by creating new connections with existing neurons, it doesn't replace them. If a neuron is destroyed, it's gone forever. If it were the case that brain tissue regenerated, we wouldn't have a problem with Parkinson's disease for example. Brain cells are commonly thought to remain in the beginning stage of interphase of cell reproduction for their life, and never divide, and instead develop by forming new synapses with other neurons. However, several research studies since 1998 have shown that some brain cells in adult mammals, including humans, can indeed regenerate.[1][2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_cells | ||
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pyrogenetix
China5094 Posts
perhaps the fear that on a long enough time scale the value of everything and enjoyment of everyday occurances drop to or approach zero. however, I disagree and think that most people live out their lives without having enough time or money to experience a LOT of what the world has to offer - all the different cultures, cuisines, lifestyles etc. I would travel the world and learn everything I could about all the countries and their history and culture. I would study human history as we know it and try to make the world a better place. I would study all the musical instruments, all the mediums of art. of course if you desire a shorter life you can always make it so, I really dont see the disadvantage of extending the life of humans except people deciding that longer life is worthless but that is just a self fulfilling prophecy. | ||
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