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Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-09 20:12:28
August 09 2009 20:06 GMT
#241
Idra is bad mannered, we knew this.
So make rules about what you can and can't say or don't invite him at all.
He turned up to the tournament and gave up his time late at night to play assuming he would get a decent standard of officiating.

What happened was appalling.
[image loading]

You don't goad a player mid-game just because of the way he says leave?!

You should be ashamed of yourself. Utterly pathetic.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
August 09 2009 20:10 GMT
#242
On August 10 2009 02:26 lakrismamma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2009 23:55 Liquid`Drone wrote:
i think the biggest mistake inc made was to invite idra in the first place

seriously, in the past year, has idra lost against foreigners in any tournament without acting like a ridiculous 9 year old even once? I realize there was a thread dedicated to whether idra should be allowed to keep playing in nonkorean tourneys because he is "professional" recently but man
I think that thread missed the point entirely
I think idra shouldnt be allowed to play in any nonkorean tournaments because he is actually the least professional player out there. pretty much every single sport out there requires competitors to respect the referees - in football it's pretty fucking common for players to be yellow carded for disrespecting the referee, and idra sure as hell wouldve been considered guilty of this.. on several occasions actually.

that being said, inc also acted extremely unprofessional and his conduct sure as hell wasn't proper for a tourney moderator.. but I'm actually left with the impression that he is more aware of this than idra, although they both seem to think what they did wasn't "wrong" and just part of their personalities or whatever.
it is incs tourney tho so whatever, but it doesn't look good. ;p


How come that everytime liquid drone write something, it just seems to make sence?


First of all, it's "sense"
And second of all:

On August 10 2009 04:07 Hot_Bid wrote:
I understand that this is Inc's tourney but it doesn't mean he has the right to do whatever he wants. There are still standards to be met and had TL known the shit was going to go down like this we would've never let it be front-paged.

An Admin should never be threatening a player with DQs and bans in the middle of a game. If he's a dick to you, fine. I understand Idra has a history of being BM (why did you invite him in the first place?) but the comment "k get out" clearly doesn't rise to the level of "extreme BM" that warranted what Inc said to Idra in that chat log. Players say there is lag. Admin leaves. It's not really that hard. There's no need for the rest of that conversation to take place, just swallow the pride and ego and JLIG (yes thats the first time I've ever used that).

Also, an Admin should never say that his decision on whether a game counts or not is influenced largely by "someone being a dick." I couldn't believe what I was reading when the TL Front Page said "if Idra had been nicer, game would've been replayed." Seriously?? Players and games should decide who advances, not the tone of a statement when someone asks you to leave. The fact that Idra could have advanced if he had said "please oh great Incontrol, may we have the honor of playing without you in this game" is ridiculous. Wins and losses should decide who advances, not manner.

Again, I am in no way justifying Idra's actions because he acted like a dick and was BM to Inc... but come on. What did you expect? As the admin its your job to act mature, professional, and not flip out at people. It's to let the players decide who advances through wins and losses. It's not to make things personal and take offense to stuff that frustrated players say. Admins should be above that.


Hot_Bid - the true voice of wisdom
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
August 09 2009 20:10 GMT
#243
On August 10 2009 04:57 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
Hahahaha. That pic is pretty funny. ^^


No, it really isn't.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
mcgriddle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States253 Posts
August 09 2009 20:43 GMT
#244
On August 09 2009 17:59 stafu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2009 16:14 mcgriddle wrote:
wow now i see why idra is bm. People are totally dicks to him.

"yea ill leave if it lags"

"k get out"

"ah ah ah . . . you didnt say the magic word"


LOL, you seriously believe that's why he's bm? Hilarious.



no... ready what I said- this is an example of idra being fucked with. I would get pissed off too. I am in a 1k tournament where the admin is acting childish.

Regardless of what was said before (which should be handled separately and not interfere with the game), a tournament admin has no excuse to have a hissy fit when he is the one who started the drama.
Reason obeys itself....and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
August 09 2009 20:47 GMT
#245
i don't see how anyone can read the chat log and think idra was out of line in this situation. his requests may have been coarse but justified (not in their coarseness of course)! hosting a tournament doesn't give a person the right to provoke, antagonize, and disturb a player while he is in the middle of a game. i'm sure by now they both realize they were both share part of the blame.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
August 09 2009 20:54 GMT
#246
Don´t see how ´get out´ is in any way harder to write than ´ok please leave it lags´.

Fucking tantrums and that kid just doesn´t get it.
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ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
August 09 2009 20:58 GMT
#247
On August 10 2009 05:54 Twisted wrote:
Don´t see how ´get out´ is in any way harder to write than ´ok please leave it lags´.

Fucking tantrums and that kid just doesn´t get it.



cmon man, hes in a game actively playing.
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
lwstupidus
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States74 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-09 21:10:06
August 09 2009 21:04 GMT
#248
On August 10 2009 05:47 mahnini wrote:
i don't see how anyone can read the chat log and think idra was out of line in this situation. his requests may have been coarse but justified (not in their coarseness of course)! hosting a tournament doesn't give a person the right to provoke, antagonize, and disturb a player while he is in the middle of a game. i'm sure by now they both realize they were both share part of the blame.


You're missing the fact that after Idra lost his second game (or whenever it was) he refused to let Lzgamer stream or any obs at all. Isn't the point of promoting this tourney so other players can actually watch it? To be honest it's pathetic that all of TL bends backwards for this nerd (letting a professional play in foreigner tourneys just because he can't win in korea is ridiculous), and it's good to see InControl put his foot down, he probably didn't go about it the right way but still. Next time just say he's disqualified before the 3rd game even starts and be done with it.

cmon man, hes in a game actively playing.


Then he can stfu and play and not type anything at all? If he was lagging why wouldn't he pause and ask him to leave in all the other games they played?
a penne saved is a penne earned
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-09 21:13:00
August 09 2009 21:11 GMT
#249
didnt he say no obs due to lag? you can always stream the replays later anyway.

the problem with this is people are using this as a way to get back at idra for all the bm he does. this isnt the issue.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
psion0011
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada720 Posts
August 09 2009 21:14 GMT
#250
On August 10 2009 05:47 mahnini wrote:
hosting a tournament doesn't give a person the right to

Hahaha what are the hell are you talking about, he has the right to do whatever he wants, it's his tournament.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
August 09 2009 21:15 GMT
#251
screw everyone of you

i just won the internet

bye idra
why so 진지해?
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
August 09 2009 21:16 GMT
#252
i see alot of people saying that idra has a right to be mad because inc is acting childish?? WHY DO YOU THINK inc is acting childish in the first place??? Cause Idra probably started it and kept bashing him, when hes the one running the tourney..

If a NFL player calls a referee, or even worse, the commissioner a faggot, he will get ejected from the game. Same goes for every sport. Why is SC any different?
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
August 09 2009 21:17 GMT
#253
On August 10 2009 06:14 psion0011 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2009 05:47 mahnini wrote:
hosting a tournament doesn't give a person the right to

Hahaha what are the hell are you talking about, he has the right to do whatever he wants, it's his tournament.

it's his tournament insofar as making pivotal decisions and establishing rules go. simply because it is his tournament doesnt mean he can do whatever he wants with no repercussion. thinking in this manner is detrimental to himself, the players, and the community.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
psion0011
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada720 Posts
August 09 2009 21:19 GMT
#254
On August 10 2009 06:17 mahnini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2009 06:14 psion0011 wrote:
On August 10 2009 05:47 mahnini wrote:
hosting a tournament doesn't give a person the right to

Hahaha what are the hell are you talking about, he has the right to do whatever he wants, it's his tournament.

it's his tournament insofar as making pivotal decisions and establishing rules go. simply because it is his tournament doesnt mean he can do whatever he wants with no repercussion. thinking in this manner is detrimental to himself, the players, and the community.

Sure he can, and he did.

I find it funny we're having this conversation on a forum whose #1 rule is "THIS IS OUR HOUSE WE DO WHAT WE WANT".
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
August 09 2009 21:20 GMT
#255
As much as you all hate Idra, there is no way any of you can deny that incontrol was being just as big of a dick. It's pretty damn sad that he stooped so low to get back at IdrA.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
August 09 2009 21:21 GMT
#256
On August 10 2009 06:14 psion0011 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2009 05:47 mahnini wrote:
hosting a tournament doesn't give a person the right to

Hahaha what are the hell are you talking about, he has the right to do whatever he wants, it's his tournament.


sure, but inc is complaining about IdrA being bm when in the ss, iNc was the only one being bm. "Get out" is perfectly fine imo, if your ego gets all hurt and shit, get over it.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
August 09 2009 21:25 GMT
#257
On August 10 2009 06:17 mahnini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2009 06:14 psion0011 wrote:
On August 10 2009 05:47 mahnini wrote:
hosting a tournament doesn't give a person the right to

Hahaha what are the hell are you talking about, he has the right to do whatever he wants, it's his tournament.

it's his tournament insofar as making pivotal decisions and establishing rules go. simply because it is his tournament doesnt mean he can do whatever he wants with no repercussion. thinking in this manner is detrimental to himself, the players, and the community.

why do you even argue with all this new guys in this thread posting this just for the sake of it?their only aim is to flame idra, not actually state their opinion and keep up normal discussion.ignore these posts and this actually is a decent discussion

Twisted, you should read the other thread, becouse clearly your hate towrads Idra blinds you, by going with your login i could ask why inc didn't just say "ok i am leaving" instead of this "save rep afer you win dinot".
thats right, his ego didn't let him do that
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
August 09 2009 21:30 GMT
#258
On August 10 2009 06:16 Skyze wrote:
i see alot of people saying that idra has a right to be mad because inc is acting childish?? WHY DO YOU THINK inc is acting childish in the first place??? Cause Idra probably started it and kept bashing him, when hes the one running the tourney..

If a NFL player calls a referee, or even worse, the commissioner a faggot, he will get ejected from the game. Same goes for every sport. Why is SC any different?


You want a decent example?
Take McEnroe at Wimledon in 1981. He was close to being thrown out for calling an umpire "the pits of the world". The umpire didn't stand in front of him waving his arm while he's trying to serve; he acted professionally.
McEnroe went on to win but then they did not give him his honorary club membership, which had been given to all previous champions. He did face consequences... just not in the tournament itself.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
August 09 2009 21:34 GMT
#259
On August 10 2009 06:21 FragKrag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2009 06:14 psion0011 wrote:
On August 10 2009 05:47 mahnini wrote:
hosting a tournament doesn't give a person the right to

Hahaha what are the hell are you talking about, he has the right to do whatever he wants, it's his tournament.


sure, but inc is complaining about IdrA being bm when in the ss, iNc was the only one being bm. "Get out" is perfectly fine imo, if your ego gets all hurt and shit, get over it.


I'm pretty sure inc got pissed because Idra called him a terrible admin.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
August 09 2009 21:40 GMT
#260
On August 10 2009 06:15 Rekrul wrote:
screw everyone of you

i just won the internet

bye idra


i'm a little bit worried about this 3:
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