EPTHighlander QF/SF thread - Page 15
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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PaeZ
Mexico1627 Posts
On August 10 2009 12:00 Xeris wrote: imagine an NBA player telling the ref to sit on the bench because he got in the way of the play. "GTFO REF YOURE TOO FAT" LOL You made my day with that. | ||
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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WhuazGoodJaggah
Lesotho777 Posts
considering lag <-> weather, often games have to be played in bad weather and this can sometimes be veeery bad weather. i've seen football matchs where the ball stops right in front of the goal because there was a lake ringht in front of the line. thats realitly, learn to deal with it. its also a skill to be good in a not so perfect environment, maybe computerplaying pussys still need to learn this? before lan latency everyone played with that bullshit delay of about 1/10 second, so? also the ref is the chef! if a football game is on like 88min and 1 player who is 0-1 behind is acting like a dick, the ref simply breaks the game and teaches the player some manners. the ref has this power because its the players interest to keep the game going. so in this case its in Idras interrest to stfu and let inc decide on his on to leave. | ||
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alexpnd
Canada1857 Posts
On August 10 2009 16:03 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote: wow you guys never watche professional sports or played it yourself? it is VERY common to talk to the official DURING the game. in football f.e. you see constantly players running back while having a disput with the ref (Ballak at CL Final anyone?). you can compare this in starcraft like when you have a battle going on or when your just macroing like you did ten tousand times before. its not like inc was talking to idra while a huuge match deciding battle was going on. so plz stop saying that the sport analogy fails. considering lag <-> weather, often games have to be played in bad weather and this can sometimes be veeery bad weather. i've seen football matchs where the ball stops right in front of the goal because there was a lake ringht in front of the line. thats realitly, learn to deal with it. its also a skill to be good in a not so perfect environment, maybe computerplaying pussys still need to learn this? before lan latency everyone played with that bullshit delay of about 1/10 second, so? also the ref is the chef! if a football game is on like 88min and 1 player who is 0-1 behind is acting like a dick, the ref simply breaks the game and teaches the player some manners. the ref has this power because its the players interest to keep the game going. so in this case its in Idras interrest to stfu and let inc decide on his on to leave. Yo thats fair and all but lets say the ref has the power to make it rain and to make it stop? haha. So the ref should make it stop and leave. | ||
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mcgriddle
United States253 Posts
Imagine NBA finals between the mavericks and lakers. Game is in LA and jack Nicholson looks pissed as always. Dirk Nowitzki seeing the opportunity calls for a timeout "K TIME OUT". Now the main ref is a little pissed off at Dirk because before the games started Dirk said he had a small penis. So the ref gives Dirk a warning, "Hey watch who you are talking to bigshot". Dirk yells back, "I was told that if I do this funky gang sign I would get a timeout". "I will throw your Nazi ass out of this game!" "Fuck you tiny pee-pee, I'm the crotchmaster" (man i really wanted to use the example to defend Idra... but had too much fun with it) | ||
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WhuazGoodJaggah
Lesotho777 Posts
On August 10 2009 16:07 alexpnd wrote: Yo thats fair and all but lets say the ref has the power to make it rain and to make it stop? haha. So the ref should make it stop and leave. no, the ref has not the power to make it rain or not, it can also lag if he leaves. all he can do is close the roof but if the roof still has holes it will continue to be wet. the last paragraph of mine was the closest to this issue, because the ref (inc) has the power to fuck arround with the player (idra) if he does not behave like he should. so he is all right when he doesnt leave the game and pissing Idra of. This is to teach the player some manners, the manners he should have without the ref beeing a dick like he is. As i said in football the ref wont let the players play the game until the player who behave like a dick is acting nice. As childish as this may seem, this is how you gotta do it if you want to have any effect (cant punch his fucking face, right?) | ||
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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GoSu
Korea (South)1773 Posts
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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Flaccid
8836 Posts
Hot_Bid I couldn't believe what I was reading when the TL Front Page said "if Idra had been nicer, game would've been replayed." Seriously?? Players and games should decide who advances, not the tone of a statement when someone asks you to leave. The fact that Idra could have advanced if he had said "please oh great Incontrol, may we have the honor of playing without you in this game" is ridiculous. Wins and losses should decide who advances, not manner. I think it's just a case of someone's persona affecting how decisions are made about them. You see this all the time in sports because ultimately a referee's call is never completely objective. Like how Chris Pronger can feed people elbows and never get called for it whereas a goon like Darcy Hordichuk steps on the ice and gets two minutes for being on the ice and being Darcy Hordichuk. So IdrA comes into the channel and bitches about lag. People react they way they do because he's IdrA and he is always bitching about something. That's no one's fault but his own. He's dug his own hole through years of being bitchy and whiney and he's forfeited the benefit of the doubt. Imagine how different things would be if a player like White_ra complained about lag. It wouldn't be an issue. That said, I'm not saying that IdrA is completely in the wrong and iNc is in the right (which is obviously not the case), but it all stems from IdrA's standard behaviour over the years. He should know people are going to be looking for IdrA being IdrA and expect to get treated unfairly when rocking the status quo. It's no different than any other high-profile asshat in the sporting world. edit: And it's not like you can have a foreigner tournament without IdrA. People would be complaining that the tournament and the victor are somehow less legitimate because IdrA wasn't around to lose to zerglings. Looool. | ||
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Yaqoob
Canada3325 Posts
Hot_Bid I couldn't believe what I was reading when the TL Front Page said "if Idra had been nicer, game would've been replayed." Seriously?? Players and games should decide who advances, not the tone of a statement when someone asks you to leave. The fact that Idra could have advanced if he had said "please oh great Incontrol, may we have the honor of playing without you in this game" is ridiculous. Wins and losses should decide who advances, not manner. I agree 100% with this. They played game 2 on a map that wasn't in the map pool. That game would not count in any professional tournament and I'm on the opinion that it should be replayed but I guess there is a battle of ego's going on here and no one wants to admit they were wrong. | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
Either you were joking and failed or you acted like a 5yr old kid. Not leaving simply because he told you to and then leaving a few minutes later because 'you decided so'. seriously, that was lame. Especially if it's true what Idra said that you said before the game you'd leave if it lags. When Idra said "get out", you should've realized he just talks like he talks, even tho it's not very mannered, you should've said "gl guys" and left. | ||
vGl-CoW
Belgium8305 Posts
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selboN
United States2523 Posts
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Flaccid
8836 Posts
On August 11 2009 03:16 vGl-CoW wrote: esports ![[image loading]](http://api.ning.com/files/TAut903KoXi7Czz7keZhiP3frVYBZQRshrOntfwpuBypTVIUOH9*aD7wSUKML0YF-DnRooZNxIF06xpqSGltZRFMlSzPCWur/capslock.jpg) | ||
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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diehilde
Germany1596 Posts
If both of these guys wouldnt have reached rock bottom in terms of respect already, they sure would have after this shit. | ||
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kawoq
Guatemala357 Posts
And I have a mind set for them "when the tournaments stars I AM FRIEND OF NO-ONE!!!" and make the rules clear instead of "you know the rules aka standard rules applies" I type them down and make people follow them, give warnings when needed and desqualify if the player's action required. So far I have never need to kick someone out. Inc, I think you are a great guy and I truely appreciate your efforts I know how hard is to get things going, but I think you handle this the wrong way, but what is done is done. Follow your nick and be in control of the situation, you dont need to make a contest of power, you have the power period, give warning and dont hesitate to ban people if needed. I dont know Idra, just for the multiple posts about him being BM, though I enjoy watching your games I dont see you as a profesional player with all that BMing you do, I think is cheap and vulgar and so un-professional, My best wishes for you in Korea, I hope you stop being BM and instead of that think about the next game. I watched the serie and you mind was in the BM and non-games things instead of the game itself, that is why you lose. Focus. You have the skills to do great in Korea. | ||
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
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