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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On August 09 2009 15:49 IdrA wrote:
lol
so if i had just implied that i thought you were a bad admin without actually saying it, that would be ok?
'dont make this bad' 'dont make me be like iccup admins' 'dont piss off the guy who awards wins and losses'
Oh I get it now.. you literally don't know how to say things nicely or diplomatically. Here, a short explanation for what you could have done:
You were upset cause the player you vs'd made too many lings and won. You wanted to scapegoat that anger so you blamed it on lag.
When speaking to the head admin of the tourney don't say "no obs" or ban him when he joins the game to cast/obs. Say instead, "with this lag I don't want any obs." Or "if there is lag can you leave?" After I agree you play. Once the game starts instead of saying "k get out" say "there is some lag" or pause the game and ask if it is that important to you. Remember: Being polite extends beyond tourneys, it is generally a nice thing to do.. but more importantly it gets better results than being a dick.
Had you done any of these things, I probably wouldn't have been a dick and hesitated to leave the game.
I know you know all this but it will make for good posting history when we later reflect on that time where I explained to you how to NOT be a douche.
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All that screenshot proves is that you need to get over yourself.
God I feel so bad for dinot for having to endure your awkward hissyfit. The only thing you have going for yourself here is that you're actually organizing this and that idra is merely participating for personal gain, which doesn't really justify any of that.
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i didnt blame anything on lag, i didnt make any excuses at all. however it did lag, you said so yourself, so i said no obs. dont see whats unreasonable about that. it escalated from there, on both sides.
is being condescending part of not being a douche?
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On August 09 2009 15:49 Rekrul wrote:
wtf idra
screw the fact that he awards wins and losses
he can bench press 9 of you WTF
lol rekrul.. u win the thread with this lololol
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On August 09 2009 15:49 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2009 15:49 Rekrul wrote:
wtf idra
screw the fact that he awards wins and losses
he can bench press 9 of you WTF the joys of keyboard warrioring
WTF idra
i was gunna just stay in tonight and chill
now i gotta take savior to a room salon or something
o wait those are closed on sunday
club i is open every day though
hmmmm
we'll c
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
yo idra i'm gonna ruin your progaming dream forever... maybe!
isn't this fun? I love toying with people's lives
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
he loses to foreign zergs still
the only place he's living a dream...is in his dreams!
LoL!
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wow now i see why idra is bm. People are totally dicks to him.
"yea ill leave if it lags"
"k get out"
"ah ah ah . . . you didnt say the magic word"
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On August 09 2009 15:24 tRi[T]oN wrote:
No that isnt it at all. Either do good commentary or just stfu and dont bother, other wise it just sounds retarded and like you dont know wtf is going on in game.
It wasnt bad at all...and if you dont like it..dont fucking watch..Lz did just fine and it was enjoyable.
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On August 09 2009 16:08 Rekrul wrote:
he loses to foreign zergs still
the only place he's living a dream...is in his dreams!
LoL!
funny!haha
let them solve this instead of stirring it up even more, like 50 clueless kids flaming Idra isn't enough?
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On August 09 2009 16:08 Rekrul wrote:
he loses to foreign zergs still
the only place he's living a dream...is in his dreams!
LoL!
No denial here, right? Proud to keep us all wondering if Idra's gonna get sent home because of you, huh? k
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
fuk e-thuggin
i'm the e-police
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United States22883 Posts
I gotta side with IdrA on this particular fight. No, he doesn't take losses well but none of the USA players do. Even if someone's a dick, powertripping admins are the fucking worst in any competition, and his requests that game were pretty reasonable. "you lag. you should leave." How much more polite are you expecting from IdrA? Are you going to give him a lesson on being cordial during the match? I know what you put in your rules, but still just follow the protocol and don't antagonize someone in the middle of a game. You should've been the clear headed one, and not just cause you're admin (but that's the biggest reason.)
What I don't get is why SC players rage so much harder than other kinds of gamers, especially when there's less at stake. Maybe cause there's so few lan opportunities, so online means a lot more?
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On August 09 2009 17:04 Jibba wrote:
I gotta side with IdrA on this particular fight. No, he doesn't take losses well but none of the USA players do. Even if someone's a dick, powertripping admins are the fucking worst in any competition, and his requests that game were pretty reasonable. "you lag. you should leave." How much more polite are you expecting from IdrA? Are you going to give him a lesson on being cordial during the match? I know what you put in your rules, but still just follow the protocol and don't antagonize someone in the middle of a game.
What I don't get is why SC players rage so much harder than other kinds of gamers, especially when there's less at stake. Maybe cause there's so few lan opportunities, so online means a lot more?
His requests were reasonable, but givin his actions throughout the tournament and the way he went about giving those requests... hell he didnt even give requests, he basically demanded. ("No obs" - it's not his fucking call to make that decision. Then, when obviously inc didnt agree with straight out no obs, banning inc from the game, he's lucky he didnt just get a walk over against him.) When he's an immature little dick to the admins, he cant expect everyone to just take it AND agree to his 'requests'(demands)
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On August 09 2009 16:45 Rekrul wrote:
fuk e-thuggin
i'm the e-police
lawl.
Don't lower ranked pro gamers frequently leak higher teammate's reps ? I mean, there's literally no way else we'd get some of the ones we've gotten. The question is what would actually happen if savior knew.
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United States22883 Posts
On August 09 2009 17:08 Ftrunkz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2009 17:04 Jibba wrote:
I gotta side with IdrA on this particular fight. No, he doesn't take losses well but none of the USA players do. Even if someone's a dick, powertripping admins are the fucking worst in any competition, and his requests that game were pretty reasonable. "you lag. you should leave." How much more polite are you expecting from IdrA? Are you going to give him a lesson on being cordial during the match? I know what you put in your rules, but still just follow the protocol and don't antagonize someone in the middle of a game.
What I don't get is why SC players rage so much harder than other kinds of gamers, especially when there's less at stake. Maybe cause there's so few lan opportunities, so online means a lot more? His requests were reasonable, but givin his actions throughout the tournament and the way he went about giving those requests... hell he didnt even give requests, he basically demanded. ("No obs" - it's not his fucking call to make that decision. Then, when obviously inc didnt agree with straight out no obs, banning inc from the game, he's lucky he didnt just get a walk over against him.) When he's an immature little dick to the admins, he cant expect everyone to just take it AND agree to his 'requests'(demands)
My experience with admins in competitive gaming is that they usually deserve the dick treatment. It's their job to enforce fair play, not inject their personalities which is what 99% of them do. I prefer to get them reported, but obviously IdrA doesn't have that recourse.
We're basically talking about the difference between "no obs" and "no obs plz." That's absurd. People read emotion into his typed messages way too much. I'm not saying he wasn't a dick, but 1) it's somewhat justified and 2) you're all dicks when you lose.
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As a completely uninvolved 3rd party, it seems to me the comment "if you werent a terrible admin id be nicer" was what really started the fire. It's a very disrespectful thing to say and it's something you'd see on those reality shows where teenage girls are always arguing.
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hmm,.
It seems like a lose-lose situation for Idra, no matter if he wins or lose any foreign tournament.
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On August 09 2009 17:18 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2009 17:08 Ftrunkz wrote:On August 09 2009 17:04 Jibba wrote:
I gotta side with IdrA on this particular fight. No, he doesn't take losses well but none of the USA players do. Even if someone's a dick, powertripping admins are the fucking worst in any competition, and his requests that game were pretty reasonable. "you lag. you should leave." How much more polite are you expecting from IdrA? Are you going to give him a lesson on being cordial during the match? I know what you put in your rules, but still just follow the protocol and don't antagonize someone in the middle of a game.
What I don't get is why SC players rage so much harder than other kinds of gamers, especially when there's less at stake. Maybe cause there's so few lan opportunities, so online means a lot more? His requests were reasonable, but givin his actions throughout the tournament and the way he went about giving those requests... hell he didnt even give requests, he basically demanded. ("No obs" - it's not his fucking call to make that decision. Then, when obviously inc didnt agree with straight out no obs, banning inc from the game, he's lucky he didnt just get a walk over against him.) When he's an immature little dick to the admins, he cant expect everyone to just take it AND agree to his 'requests'(demands) My experience with admins in competitive gaming is that they usually deserve the dick treatment. It's their job to enforce fair play, not inject their personalities which is what 99% of them do. I prefer to get them reported, but obviously IdrA doesn't have that recourse. We're basically talking about the difference between "no obs" and "no obs plz." That's absurd. People read emotion into his typed messages way too much. I'm not saying he wasn't a dick, but 1) it's somewhat justified and 2) you're all dicks when you lose.
This.
Incontrol reacted in a COMPLETELY unprofessional manner.
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On August 09 2009 16:14 mcgriddle wrote:
wow now i see why idra is bm. People are totally dicks to him.
"yea ill leave if it lags"
"k get out"
"ah ah ah . . . you didnt say the magic word"
LOL, you seriously believe that's why he's bm? Hilarious.
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