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On August 09 2009 06:08 iamho wrote:
fun to have such an exciting and hyped PL this year, but I hate fantasy for ending the series with his fucking annoying cheese builds that aren't even original
honestly i used to enjoy watching fantasy going for interesting builds, but what is this crap. his tvz really isnt so bad that he needs to bunker rush every game, but i guess thats the only tvz strat skt1 terrans think they can win with (boxer influence??)
Ho ho ho, not even original? You have got to be kidding me. Viewing it from the outside it's just a bunker rush, but you obviously did not read any comments.
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Why does the B word show up even when people lose 0-3? That's not a discussion for this thread (or for any, really)
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On August 09 2009 06:08 iamho wrote:
fun to have such an exciting and hyped PL this year, but I hate fantasy for ending the series with his fucking annoying cheese builds that aren't even original
honestly i used to enjoy watching fantasy going for interesting builds, but what is this crap. his tvz really isnt so bad that he needs to bunker rush every game, but i guess thats the only tvz strat skt1 terrans think they can win with (boxer influence??)
unoriginal, but brilliant nonetheless. even showing a fantastic degree of metagame by hanging around oov instead of boxer pre-game to mislead his opponent.
jung laden did rob us of epic games but hey, it's not illegal to rush.
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On August 09 2009 06:19 Kentor wrote:
oh shit check out the ELO :D
YES FANTASY #2 <3.
I hope Fantasy gets #1 on the Kespa rank some day. As I've stated before, I just love watching Fantasy play :D
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stop quoting me, i was just fanboy raging 2 minutes after I watched JD lose his third game in this series (watched VODs late)
i still hate skt1 terrans though
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On August 09 2009 06:26 iamho wrote:
stop quoting me, i was just fanboy raging 2 minutes after I watched JD lose his third game in this series (watched VODs late)
So, you didn't read the comments then.
I was right.
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On August 08 2009 22:31 barbahaba0 wrote:
this will be epic!!!!
i'm not kidding both of my hands are on my dick and moving pretty fast
kind of a miracle i can type lol
am i the only one who noticed this post?
grats t1 (but that was a shitty way to end the grand finals)
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Jaedong lost to Effort in GOM, and I was disappointed. Maybe he threw the game to practice for KESPA sanctioned events. Proleague is the biggest stage there is in professional StarCraft, it's the World Series, the NBA Finals, the Super Bowl. Jaedong is not a Bonjwa. Michael Jordan dominated. He scored the winning shot of the NBA finals. Jaedong dropped the ball. If he were really as dominant as a Bonjwa, by definition, is, he would've carried his team to a Proleague win. He dropped the m*therf*cking ball at the grandest of grandest stages.
The Jaedong worshipping ends now. He's not a hero. Heroes win when it matters most. There is presently no best player in professional StarCraft. Jaedong was a candidate for a while, but after losing these games, his hype died. Too bad. There is no best player in StarCraft today.
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On August 09 2009 06:42 Zinfandel wrote:
Jaedong lost to Effort in GOM, and I was disappointed. Maybe he threw the game to practice for KESPA sanctioned events. Proleague is the biggest stage there is in professional StarCraft, it's the World Series, the NBA Finals, the Super Bowl. Jaedong is not a Bonjwa. Michael Jordan dominated. He scored the winning shot of the NBA finals. Jaedong dropped the ball. If he were really as dominant as a Bonjwa, by definition, is, he would've carried his team to a Proleague win. He dropped the m*therf*cking ball at the grandest of grandest stages.
The Jaedong worshipping ends now. He's not a hero. Heroes win when it matters most. There is presently no best player in professional StarCraft. Jaedong was a candidate for a while, but after losing these games, his hype died. Too bad. There is no best player in StarCraft today.
If only it could be settled as easily as that.
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On August 09 2009 06:48 BanZu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2009 06:42 Zinfandel wrote:
Jaedong lost to Effort in GOM, and I was disappointed. Maybe he threw the game to practice for KESPA sanctioned events. Proleague is the biggest stage there is in professional StarCraft, it's the World Series, the NBA Finals, the Super Bowl. Jaedong is not a Bonjwa. Michael Jordan dominated. He scored the winning shot of the NBA finals. Jaedong dropped the ball. If he were really as dominant as a Bonjwa, by definition, is, he would've carried his team to a Proleague win. He dropped the m*therf*cking ball at the grandest of grandest stages.
The Jaedong worshipping ends now. He's not a hero. Heroes win when it matters most. There is presently no best player in professional StarCraft. Jaedong was a candidate for a while, but after losing these games, his hype died. Too bad. There is no best player in StarCraft today. If only it could be settled as easily as that.
If Fantasy beats him in the Semi, I think it is easy as that.
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Jaedong is still SC's best player you dolts.
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On August 09 2009 06:52 SuperJongMan wrote:
Jaedong is still SC's best player you dolts.
even at his old prime matches against some other top players were seen as 50/50.
he's one of the best players.
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On August 09 2009 06:56 gaggar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2009 06:52 SuperJongMan wrote:
Jaedong is still SC's best player you dolts. even at his old prime matches against some other top players were seen as 50/50. he's one of the best players.
I personally will reserve my opinion for until I see how he fares against Fantasy and Iris.
There is definitely a discrepancy between "best player at the moment" and "bonjwa." Bisu was never bonjwa, but there were periods where he was considered the best player in the proscene, and I think the same can be said of Jaedong and even Flash.
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I was supposed to supervise the guy who was putting new glaze tiles in the kitchen of my sister's apartment because she was in the country and her fiance had to go to work... guy said he's going home 3 hours later and thank god because before my sister's fiance gave me some cannabis to smoke before he left O_O
I was like leaning in all directions on my chair and slowly reading what ghostwriter was translating letter by letter... effect slowly wore off over time lol I felt almost nothing during ace.
I'm not sure who was irresponsible more, me or my sister's chosen man.
+ Show Spoiler +JayDeee, why haven't you play safe and go metabolic boost first... I'm SAD FUCKING PANDA
KENTOR THANK YOU FOR STREAMING
OrangeTV <3<3<3
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On August 09 2009 06:26 iamho wrote:
stop quoting me, i was just fanboy raging 2 minutes after I watched JD lose his third game in this series (watched VODs late)
i still hate skt1 terrans though
lol, i'm quoting you to assure you it is all good 
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On August 08 2009 23:14 Nylan wrote:
I feel so bad for Jaedong as a person, I really admire his heart and dedication. However, I'm absolutely ecstatic to see Oz coach's one-dimensional strategy fail.
the reason this post was called "absurd" two posts down is because it's not the Oz coach's choice. The Oz coach showed his brilliance by scouting jaedong's talent, and jaedong is still on the team because he's loyal. We don't all root for teams with ultra-rich sponsors. T1 poached many of its players from other teams (Bisu, anyone?)
in other words, saying "I'm so glad the Oz strategy failed!!" is stupid... it's not a strategy at all, it's simply what Oz has to work with given the money that they have to pay players with
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On August 09 2009 07:25 Delerium wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2009 23:14 Nylan wrote:
I feel so bad for Jaedong as a person, I really admire his heart and dedication. However, I'm absolutely ecstatic to see Oz coach's one-dimensional strategy fail. the reason this post was called "absurd" two posts down is because it's not the Oz coach's choice. The Oz coach showed his brilliance by scouting jaedong's talent, and jaedong is still on the team because he's loyal. We don't all root for teams with ultra-rich sponsors. T1 poached many of its players from other teams (Bisu, anyone?) in other words, saying "I'm so glad the Oz strategy failed!!" is stupid... it's not a strategy at all, it's simply what Oz has to work with given the money that they have to pay players with
... and?
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Jaedong maybe is the best player, but he's not the most gifted with purest SC talent.
When SC2 comes out, I wouldn't bet my money on Jaedong winning the early leagues.
Fantasy > Jaedong in that aspect, he sees the matrix.
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On August 08 2009 23:29 sArite_nite wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2009 23:22 kerpal wrote:
i think mostly we feel cheated out of another epic game like the first day JD vs fantasy... or pretty much any of the JD vs fantasy games... look through tlpd sometime, whenever these guys meet it's epic... except the grand final.
was an annoyingly clever cheese though! Actually, the final was an epic game in itself. Look at the speed of Jaedong's reactions when his overlord was sniped by marines. Look at how the lings nearly got into the base. Look at Fantasy when he pulled his SCVs to block the lings and went further to SCV bunker rush him. Fantasy felt pretty safe pulling a bunker rush. He still had Bisu to back him up on Super Ace and what I think this match was supposed to do was mindfuck Jaedong more than win. Fantasy pulled off this win perfectly, but the intention was not to win. It was to weaken Jaedong mentality against Bisu. Had Fantasy lost this match, he would have been recorded as the key weapon in defeating Jaedong, by weakening Jaedong so badly Bisu made mincemeat out of him. Instead, Fantasy won this. Don't judge Fantasy as relying on the cheese to win. SKT's grand plan always has contingencies and the plan went: "Fantasy will bunker rush Jaedong. He will 1) win or 2) lose but weaken Jaedong enough to let Bisu win".
sorry but this is ridiculous. fending off a rush and winning the game is going to make you feel pumped for the next game, not broken.
or were you thinking that in the second game he'd spawn with all his units and buildings dying? lolz
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On August 09 2009 06:48 BanZu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2009 06:42 Zinfandel wrote:
Jaedong lost to Effort in GOM, and I was disappointed. Maybe he threw the game to practice for KESPA sanctioned events. Proleague is the biggest stage there is in professional StarCraft, it's the World Series, the NBA Finals, the Super Bowl. Jaedong is not a Bonjwa. Michael Jordan dominated. He scored the winning shot of the NBA finals. Jaedong dropped the ball. If he were really as dominant as a Bonjwa, by definition, is, he would've carried his team to a Proleague win. He dropped the m*therf*cking ball at the grandest of grandest stages.
The Jaedong worshipping ends now. He's not a hero. Heroes win when it matters most. There is presently no best player in professional StarCraft. Jaedong was a candidate for a while, but after losing these games, his hype died. Too bad. There is no best player in StarCraft today. If only it could be settled as easily as that.
It is, especially if he's knocked out of either remaining individual league. He's dropped the ball so many times and we've chalked it up to tiredness or any other bullshit excuse that it's getting ridiculous. He was 0-2'd by Effort, beaten by Orion AND Hyuk, and he was beaten by Fantasy, twice. There is NO CHANCE that he can be considered a Bonjwa now, dropping that many games, especially to scrubs in a matchup where he's supposed to be a god.
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