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Harem
United States11390 Posts
On August 01 2009 15:35 o3.power91 wrote: Yeah and Hiya is 1-9 in last 10 games and Perfectman is Oz's 3rd Protoss (which says alot when he's put after Young and Backho most of the time). Don't forget Spear. (lol) | ||
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
lol I forgot he even existed XD | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
Lecaf was SLOW PLAYING US the entire season. They weren't even using their A team...sneaky bastards  "You see...I am not left handed" Seemed like the place for a random princess bride quote. | ||
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EvoChamber
France2505 Posts
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FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
Yeah a Noob playing on Khan A-Team... he is probably C- on iccup -.- People tend to forget that all of them are Progamers for a reason.... They all are freaking goods I think being a khan fan makes you forget that oDin loses to random terrans and is 6-23 in ZvT | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
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NicolBolas
United States1388 Posts
On August 01 2009 15:33 FranzF1 wrote: Yeah a Noob playing on Khan A-Team... he is probably C- on iccup -.- People tend to forget that all of them are Progamers for a reason.... They all are freaking goods Look, after a while, you run out of superlatives. If every progamer is now supposed to be "freaking goods", then how do you describe: 1: Progamers who are better than average? 2: Progamers who are below average? 3: Progamers who are at the top of the food chain? 4: Progamers who are at the bottom of the food chain? At some point, you have to re-normalize your language. A "noob" progamer is far better than most people, but you still need a term to describe (and disparage) bottom-of-the-barrel progamers. In short, it's all relative. If someone's calling them a "noob", assume that it means "relative to other progamers," not "relative to all StarCraft players". | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On August 01 2009 15:26 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Dude after the cannon gets placed securely on the high ground..they build 2 more cannons THAT REACH YOUR GAS just below the 2 cannons on the high ground. The high ground cannons have enough range to hit unranged goons (range cant possibly be done in time). So basically you have to give free hits in order to force him to cancel the cannons(which he then instantly rebuilds) or hope you can pick off enough probes where he has forgotten to send more in order to stall until range is done. Either that or hardcore pressure the high ground cannons with an aggressive 2 gate like we saw here. Both are very difficult to do if you don't scout the cheese(but nowadays..especially after this game, you can be sure almost all decent players will check it). In this game though we saw backho just flat outmicro Snow. What iccup level do you play at? I play at D+. So yeah, not exactly the same thing, I'll admit. I have had that happen to me, but I forgot that aspect... I was able to delay the second two cannons for long enough to get several goons out, though. I check for proxies on HBR every game with my first scout, it's pretty necessary for the map (or any 2 player maps), that was the most bizarre thing to me about Snow that game (his basic lack of scouting for so long). I thought it was more Snow just playing poorly rather than Backho playing brilliantly. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
On August 01 2009 15:35 baubo wrote: ... Do you understand what you're saying? The strategy was PERFECT. That's what makes Hiya's win so unbelievable. By the time Hiya saw the fast arbs, he was already screwed. It was already past the timing when terran could punish such greedy tech play. That's why Hiya kept turtling for his near-maxed army before pushing out. Movie pretty much already had a 2nd main by the time Hiya pushed out. His advantage was ridiculously huge. But his engagement of the terran army was facepalm worthy. No, it wasn't that his timing was gone, it was the two DTs that kept him hostage in his base. Hiya got a decently fast academy, and he already had a starport building with his 3rd cc. Do you not remember that HiyA had a science vessel at his nat when movie recalled? Most terrans wait until 200/200 3/x + 3 base to push on colo anyways. the win isn't unbelievable on HiyA's part, it's unbelievable how terrible movie was that game. | ||
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NicolBolas
United States1388 Posts
On August 01 2009 15:35 baubo wrote: ... Do you understand what you're saying? The strategy was PERFECT. That's what makes Hiya's win so unbelievable. By the time Hiya saw the fast arbs, he was already screwed. It was already past the timing when terran could punish such greedy tech play. That's why Hiya kept turtling for his near-maxed army before pushing out. Movie pretty much already had a 2nd main by the time Hiya pushed out. His advantage was ridiculously huge. But his engagement of the terran army was facepalm worthy. And therein lies the problem. When the Protoss have an advantage, you never wait for the Terrans to max out before exploiting it. A Maxed-out Terran army, with appropriate upgrades, is just too powerful. You have to cut that ball down and rely on your faster unit production, and you have to do it the minute you have a maxed-out army. If you let the Terrans make the first move, as Movie did here, you lose. | ||
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
 some of the CJ players still need some consistency but I'm proud that they tried. I will always believe | ||
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Athos
United States2484 Posts
The guy STILL has to eat his underwear..... | ||
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ActualSteve
United States627 Posts
On August 01 2009 15:38 Black Gun wrote: i love the blind fanboyism that emerges in such threads after a decisive victory. ^^ Ass was kicked today. | ||
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GoSu
Korea (South)1773 Posts
What a match up yeagh ~~ | ||
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FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
BUUUUUUUUUUUUT, there is one more day and we have seen what kind of comebacks CJ can make. Its gonna be tense tomorrow. | ||
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
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GoSu
Korea (South)1773 Posts
On August 01 2009 15:48 hiro protagonist wrote: As a Oz fan I am happy, BUUUUUUUUUUUUT, there is one more day and we have seen what kind of comebacks CJ can make. Its gonna be tense tomorrow. Dont worry, tomorrow Hwaseung will be more and more hot. +) | ||
DivinO
United States4796 Posts
On August 01 2009 15:37 EvoChamber wrote: Well, I guess it's time to retreat into the depths of the CJ clubhouse and have some deep conversations about what went wrong. sAviOr didn't play. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
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