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[SPL] Playoffs - Hwaseung Oz vs CJ Entus Day 1 - Page 78

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Pooshlmer
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1001 Posts
August 01 2009 06:25 GMT
#1541
Signing the fangirl's shirt! Ha ha ha.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
August 01 2009 06:25 GMT
#1542
On August 01 2009 15:23 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2009 15:20 kaleidoscope wrote:
On August 01 2009 15:19 Magic84 wrote:
OK so now Hwaseung can go Disneyland, beach, rest whatever and JD has to prepare for super ace map vs 3 races. And Hwaseung will advance.


Definitely they will prepare SkyHigh or EffOrt for the super ace against Jaedong..


CJ has movie, skyhigh, and effort that all not only are the best players on CJ but have all had good results vs JD. They probably won't use effort after the thrashing he just got though. Who knows, maybe they are preparing someone like Much for some super cheese build vs JD (Much is really good at precise builds, or at least used to be). Or maybe even Iris, I mean his game vs Effort on that map was GOOD.

Why would CJ send a protoss for PvZ on Neo Harmony?
Moderator。◕‿◕。
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
August 01 2009 06:25 GMT
#1543
did he sign "kim taek yong" lol
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
August 01 2009 06:25 GMT
#1544
rofl! cj got it up the butt the hard way tonight.

oz is 1 jd win away from grand finals. and jd also worked on efforts morale tonight. oz has this whole series in the bag 85% imho.


seriously, this whole playoff season has been a rape of so called "depth".
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
August 01 2009 06:25 GMT
#1545
Movie did a stupid rock-esque arbiter strat and got all his arbs emp'd

Iris got raped by a fucking reaver.

I can't really blame EffOrt or SnOw because nobody expected SnOw to win, and EffOrt just got outplayed by what Jaedong did.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
August 01 2009 06:26 GMT
#1546
On August 01 2009 15:25 o[twist] wrote:
did he sign "kim taek yong" lol


No he signed his name but they were making a big deal cause he also drew a huge slash
TranslatorBe an Optimist Prime, Not a Negatron // twitter @smixity
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
August 01 2009 06:26 GMT
#1547
uhhhhh did he sign kim taek yong and cross it out?
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
August 01 2009 06:26 GMT
#1548
On August 01 2009 15:24 Smix wrote:
Today's MVP = perfectman

perfectman - hello, this is oz's perfectman
mcs - you haven't had good stats up until now, but were you confident today?
perfectman - i didn't know they would pick me, so in order to repay their expectations, i worked hard
mcs - this was an important game - weren't you nervous?
perfectman - i was only nervous about whether i should do my ceremony or not
mcs - wow~ so you weren't nervous at all~~ that's what you're saying~
shit buffering
perfectman - i chose strategy because i wanted to try it on a great player~


Also
Interviewer: How do you feel about tomorrow's matches
Perfect: Well, the players/matchups going out tomorrow are stronger than today so I feel confident.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
August 01 2009 06:26 GMT
#1549
On August 01 2009 15:25 o[twist] wrote:
did he sign "kim taek yong" lol

perfectman is Kim Tae Gyun, so maybe it looked like that
ModeratorGood content always wins.
JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
August 01 2009 06:26 GMT
#1550
On August 01 2009 15:26 Smix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2009 15:25 o[twist] wrote:
did he sign "kim taek yong" lol


No he signed his name but they were making a big deal cause he also drew a huge slash

Oh. Good. I thought he was signing Iris' name and crossing it out. I would have been so pissed if he did that.
KT_Violet
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-01 06:29:48
August 01 2009 06:26 GMT
#1551
On August 01 2009 15:19 Nevuk wrote:
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On August 01 2009 15:15 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On August 01 2009 15:14 Nevuk wrote:
On August 01 2009 15:12 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On August 01 2009 15:08 Nevuk wrote:
Cannon rushing in that spot really doesn't work taht well on this map.

It works real well on iccup I can tell you that first hand. Its much better on that spot(the right) than on the left. The gas is much closer to the ridge on the right.

I've had it used on me, shrugged it off and ignored it. It didn't affect me at all. (I was going 2 gate obs - reavers). I lost the game due to inferior mechanics, but that was 20 or so minutes after breaking contain.

So?

Clearly it works well, did you not watch the game that just happened?

It only works if the opponent over reacts. It's not like medusa where you just die if you get cannon rushed successfully. At most, they contain you to 1 base while sacrificing all tech advantages. Snow pulled tons of probes to kill a cannon that wasn't in range of any of his stuff. The cannon wasn't what killed him, it was that the cannon rush diverted his attention from the actual threat of the proxy gate. Had Snow gathered gas and just played it out like the usual vs a proxy gate, he could've had very fast reavers that totally negate the cannons, or range goons that tear cannons apart.

Edit : In fact, I still stand by that Snow would have been able to have Reavers in Backho's base before backho had goons, especially with his gateways so far away.

Dude after the cannon gets placed securely on the high ground..they build 2 more cannons THAT REACH YOUR GAS just below the 2 cannons on the high ground. The high ground cannons have enough range to hit unranged goons (range cant possibly be done in time). So basically you have to give free hits in order to force him to cancel the cannons(which he then instantly rebuilds) or hope you can pick off enough probes where he has forgotten to send more in order to stall until range is done. Either that or hardcore pressure the high ground cannons with an aggressive 2 gate like we saw here. Both are very difficult to do if you don't scout the cheese(but nowadays..especially after this game, you can be sure almost all decent players will check it).

In this game though we saw backho just flat outmicro Snow.

What iccup level do you play at?
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
August 01 2009 06:26 GMT
#1552
On August 01 2009 15:23 NicolBolas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2009 15:20 kaleidoscope wrote:
On August 01 2009 15:19 Magic84 wrote:
OK so now Hwaseung can go Disneyland, beach, rest whatever and JD has to prepare for super ace map vs 3 races. And Hwaseung will advance.


Definitely they will prepare SkyHigh or EffOrt for the super ace against Jaedong..


Unless Effort's preparations involve him buying a supply of KY jelly, I strongly suggest that they send out SkyHigh.

I lol'd so hard at that hahahaha.

Thanks Smix!
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8173 Posts
August 01 2009 06:27 GMT
#1553
On August 01 2009 15:25 Athos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2009 15:20 Ideas wrote:
On August 01 2009 15:20 Kentor wrote:
On August 01 2009 15:18 Ideas wrote:
On August 01 2009 15:17 Athos wrote:
That was the best pvp......



I think ever


beats every PvP of the golden age of protoss IMO

wtf? this game is for people who don't like PvPs



that's sorta what i was getting at




Ok, I sorta exaggerated a statement by saying that.


But it doesn't change the fact that it was a pretty one sided rape to the neutral observer.


that's what made it so hillarious. Backho didn't even need the cannons at all. The best part was that he remade the cannon in the SAME SPOT like 5 times before finally building it somewhere else. classic backho.
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Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
August 01 2009 06:27 GMT
#1554
On August 01 2009 15:24 Smix wrote:
Today's MVP = perfectman

perfectman - hello, this is oz's perfectman
mcs - you haven't had good stats up until now, but were you confident today?
perfectman - i didn't know they would pick me, so in order to repay their expectations, i worked hard
mcs - this was an important game - weren't you nervous?
perfectman - i was only nervous about whether i should do my ceremony or not
mcs - wow~ so you weren't nervous at all~~ that's what you're saying~
shit buffering
perfectman - i chose strategy because i wanted to try it on a great player~

If that was my stream fail, then T_T
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
August 01 2009 06:27 GMT
#1555
On August 01 2009 15:25 FragKrag wrote:
Movie did a stupid rock-esque arbiter strat and got all his arbs emp'd

Iris got raped by a fucking reaver.

I can't really blame EffOrt or SnOw because nobody expected SnOw to win, and EffOrt just got outplayed by what Jaedong did.

His strat was actually very good, it was the execution that was horrible.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
August 01 2009 06:27 GMT
#1556
On August 01 2009 15:26 Ack1027 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2009 15:24 Smix wrote:
Today's MVP = perfectman

perfectman - hello, this is oz's perfectman
mcs - you haven't had good stats up until now, but were you confident today?
perfectman - i didn't know they would pick me, so in order to repay their expectations, i worked hard
mcs - this was an important game - weren't you nervous?
perfectman - i was only nervous about whether i should do my ceremony or not
mcs - wow~ so you weren't nervous at all~~ that's what you're saying~
shit buffering
perfectman - i chose strategy because i wanted to try it on a great player~


Also
Interviewer: How do you feel about tomorrow's matches
Perfect: Well, the players/matchups going out tomorrow are stronger than today so I feel confident.

LOL how can he say this? Backho PvZ?
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
August 01 2009 06:27 GMT
#1557
Oh hey, he didn't forget the handshake this time
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
August 01 2009 06:29 GMT
#1558
On August 01 2009 15:27 Mystlord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2009 15:24 Smix wrote:
Today's MVP = perfectman

perfectman - hello, this is oz's perfectman
mcs - you haven't had good stats up until now, but were you confident today?
perfectman - i didn't know they would pick me, so in order to repay their expectations, i worked hard
mcs - this was an important game - weren't you nervous?
perfectman - i was only nervous about whether i should do my ceremony or not
mcs - wow~ so you weren't nervous at all~~ that's what you're saying~
shit buffering
perfectman - i chose strategy because i wanted to try it on a great player~

If that was my stream fail, then T_T


No worries!! Thank you for streaming mystlord!
TranslatorBe an Optimist Prime, Not a Negatron // twitter @smixity
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-01 06:30:27
August 01 2009 06:29 GMT
#1559
On August 01 2009 15:27 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2009 15:25 FragKrag wrote:
Movie did a stupid rock-esque arbiter strat and got all his arbs emp'd

Iris got raped by a fucking reaver.

I can't really blame EffOrt or SnOw because nobody expected SnOw to win, and EffOrt just got outplayed by what Jaedong did.

His strat was actually very good, it was the execution that was horrible.


it was terrible. He completely gave away his intentions by building that robo RIGHT by the Nexus. "Oh look, a robo that is unbelievably late, I wonder what is happening".

His recall failed, and it was the best recall he could of gotten.

He would have had a much better chance if he played more regular or whatnot.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
August 01 2009 06:29 GMT
#1560
oh lol. i thought they were saying "kim taek yong" but of course "kim tae gyun" sounds a lot like that. thanks dood
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