EPT[SPL] Playoffs - Hwaseung Oz vs CJ Entus Day 1 - Page 79
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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nttea
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NicolBolas
United States1388 Posts
On August 01 2009 15:25 FragKrag wrote: Movie did a stupid rock-esque arbiter strat and got all his arbs emp'd Iris got raped by a fucking reaver. I can't really blame EffOrt or SnOw because nobody expected SnOw to win, and EffOrt just got outplayed by what Jaedong did. Yeah, Movie and Iris really were the weak links today for CJ. I don't really know what that fast Arbiter build was supposed to do. It certainly didn't do it. As for Iris, either he underestimated his opponent, or he wasn't paying attention this match. He got greedy and left himself open for a timing attack. He should have suspected something was up by the way PerfactMan kept him from scouting even the natural expansion. There's a saying: the best swordsman doesn't have to worry about the second best swordsman. Its the man who's never picked up a sword before who will do the unexpected, and can kill you. That's why you never underestimate anyone. | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On August 01 2009 15:26 Grobyc wrote: I lol'd so hard at that hahahaha. Thanks Smix! Ky is horrible for anal foo!  | ||
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DeepGray
United States214 Posts
On August 01 2009 15:20 kaleidoscope wrote: Definitely they will prepare SkyHigh or EffOrt for the super ace against Jaedong.. What if the S-Class Sniper strikes again? | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
On August 01 2009 15:25 FragKrag wrote: Movie did a stupid rock-esque arbiter strat and got all his arbs emp'd Iris got raped by a fucking reaver. I can't really blame EffOrt or SnOw because nobody expected SnOw to win, and EffOrt just got outplayed by what Jaedong did. Hiya outplayed Movie with a ton of well casted EMPs and a ton of tanks. Perfectman's near-perfect reaver micro raped Iris. Jaedong won his JvZ against Effort before Lair was done and Backho successfully canon-rushed Snow. See how rewording stuff makes it sound so different?  | ||
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Ret.
Brazil33 Posts
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peidongyang
Canada2084 Posts
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DivinO
United States4796 Posts
Upset much? | ||
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FragKrag
United States11563 Posts
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nextstep
Canada705 Posts
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Fr33t
United States1128 Posts
On August 01 2009 15:30 SuperArc wrote: Would JD winning super ace in Grand finals, MSL and OSL make him bonjwa? :p Never, t1 fans won't let that happen. Hell, even winning the OSL twice in a row and getting the golden mouse would be huge. 2 out of 3 would be more than enough. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11563 Posts
On August 01 2009 15:31 o3.power91 wrote: Hiya outplayed Movie with a ton of well casted EMPs and a ton of tanks. Perfectman's near-perfect reaver micro raped Iris. Jaedong won his JvZ against Effort before Lair was done and Backho successfully canon-rushed Snow. See how rewording stuff makes it sound so different? Yeah except, movie did a terrible build, Iris looked like he had no idea what he was doing, and SnOw is a terrible protoss. | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On August 01 2009 15:29 FragKrag wrote: it was terrible. He completely gave away his intentions by building that robo RIGHT by the Nexus. "Oh look, a robo that is unbelievably late, I wonder what is happening". His recall failed, and it was the best recall he could of gotten. He would have had a much better chance if he played more regular or whatnot. I don't think he was trying too hard to hide his build especially since Hiya got his acad after 2 facts... The recall was bad but there were definitely better spots he couldve picked. That one was the MOST obvious and therefore would be guarded heavily. The main factor in movies rape though was the complete failure of his DA combined with his complete mismicro of the first big attack. Allowing 3 stacked arbiters to fly RIGHT NEXT to 4 vessels is just flat bad. Movie was focusing too much on his storms too early..shouldve spread and casted with the arbs first then laid down the storms. That being said..its extremely difficult to micro and position such a caster heavy army. It's easy to call a build terrible when its fails , but its better to look at specific situations before throwing out a build completely. The build is fine when played properly. Its not even all that rare on a really gas heavy map like col 2. Arb/temp is very strong. | ||
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FranzF1
Chile1710 Posts
On August 01 2009 15:31 FragKrag wrote: I mean Iris would be forgivable, but he completely dropped the ball twice now, once against a noob khan zerg, and now against some random protoss... Yeah a Noob playing on Khan A-Team... he is probably C- on iccup -.- People tend to forget that all of them are Progamers for a reason.... They all are freaking goods | ||
Harem
United States11393 Posts
On August 01 2009 13:46 GTR wrote: and thats the only win hwaseung will have today You were saying? | ||
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FragKrag
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
On August 01 2009 15:32 FragKrag wrote: Yeah except, movie did a terrible build, Iris looked like he had no idea what he was doing, and SnOw is a terrible protoss. Yeah and Hiya is 1-9 in last 10 games and Perfectman is Oz's 3rd Protoss (which says alot when he's put after Young and Backho most of the time). | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On August 01 2009 15:29 FragKrag wrote: it was terrible. He completely gave away his intentions by building that robo RIGHT by the Nexus. "Oh look, a robo that is unbelievably late, I wonder what is happening". His recall failed, and it was the best recall he could of gotten. He would have had a much better chance if he played more regular or whatnot. ... Do you understand what you're saying? The strategy was PERFECT. That's what makes Hiya's win so unbelievable. By the time Hiya saw the fast arbs, he was already screwed. It was already past the timing when terran could punish such greedy tech play. That's why Hiya kept turtling for his near-maxed army before pushing out. Movie pretty much already had a 2nd main by the time Hiya pushed out. His advantage was ridiculously huge. But his engagement of the terran army was facepalm worthy. | ||
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