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[SPL] Playoffs - Hwaseung Oz vs CJ Entus Day 1 - Page 6

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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
July 27 2009 21:50 GMT
#101
On July 28 2009 06:44 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2009 06:35 tree.hugger wrote:
ACE: Will CJ send out EffOrt against Jaedong? How about Movie? How about sKyHigh or Iris? How about... DarkElf? CJ's ace options are limitless here, but since they know who's coming out for Oz, they are free to prepare a snipe a la Leta. I'm excited. The advantage, however, is always with Jaedong.

Ace map is Neo Harm so JD doesn't really need to worry about Movie as much and can focus more on Effort/Skyhigh etc.

Oooh, that's smart. That may be why Oz thumbed down Outsider which is viable for all three races.
Jaedong
KaRnaGe[cF]
Profile Joined September 2007
United States355 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-27 22:07:40
July 27 2009 22:01 GMT
#102
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 27 2009 22:25 gaggar wrote:
lomo < skyhigh
jaedong < effort
hiya > movie
perfectman < iris
backho > snow
killer < kwanro


effort's loss in gom won't effect him much. iris practiced specifically for effort, while effort concentrated on the proleague.


GOM SPOILER

Thanks for spoling it i haven't watched the GOM games yet ;(
"We must remember that one man is much the same as another, and that he is best who is trained in the severest school." - Athenian General Thucydides Quantum Gaming
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
July 27 2009 22:09 GMT
#103
It pains me to say but CJ has this one down... 4-1 CJ.
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selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
July 27 2009 22:10 GMT
#104
On July 28 2009 07:01 KaRnaGe[cF] wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 27 2009 22:25 gaggar wrote:
lomo < skyhigh
jaedong < effort
hiya > movie
perfectman < iris
backho > snow
killer < kwanro


effort's loss in gom won't effect him much. iris practiced specifically for effort, while effort concentrated on the proleague.


GOM SPOILER

Thanks for spoling it i haven't watched the GOM games yet ;(

They're pretty old. They obviously were not a priority to you.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-27 22:25:02
July 27 2009 22:24 GMT
#105
ah -________-;; Oz's lineup kinda fades after Jaedong

(T)Lomo < (T)sKyHigh
SkyHigh has taken some big names on in TvT. He's playing sharp and smart and i expect him to roll Lomo.

(Z)Jaedong > (Z)EffOrt
The Dong is still ZvZ incarnate

(T)HiyA < (P)Movie
Movie.. i dont like you. However Hiya straight up blows nowadays.

(P)PerfectMan < (T)Iris
Who the fuck is perfectman? (insert Reach joke here) Iris is doing FINE ; expect him to roll.. this B team noob.

(P)BackHo > (P)Snow
ROFL. Snow's last PvP was against Bisu. Backho also played Bisu but showed a higher level of play vs Bisu. I expect Backho to beat snow.

(Z)Killer < (Z)Kwanro
kwanro will win. Why even bother?
cw)minsean(ru
Reptarem
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
155 Posts
July 27 2009 22:27 GMT
#106
why does everyone think Jaedong will take his match ez? EffOrt has beat him plenty is on a hot streak -.- give him some credit.
KaRnaGe[cF]
Profile Joined September 2007
United States355 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-27 22:40:22
July 27 2009 22:35 GMT
#107
On July 28 2009 07:10 selboN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2009 07:01 KaRnaGe[cF] wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 27 2009 22:25 gaggar wrote:
lomo < skyhigh
jaedong < effort
hiya > movie
perfectman < iris
backho > snow
killer < kwanro


effort's loss in gom won't effect him much. iris practiced specifically for effort, while effort concentrated on the proleague.


GOM SPOILER

Thanks for spoling it i haven't watched the GOM games yet ;(

They're pretty old. They obviously were not a priority to you.


2 days? i just couldnt stay up after the pl playoff though i wanted to and i had to work today... besides i dont think the vods are out. I was interested
"We must remember that one man is much the same as another, and that he is best who is trained in the severest school." - Athenian General Thucydides Quantum Gaming
Pangolin
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1035 Posts
July 27 2009 22:36 GMT
#108
On July 28 2009 07:10 selboN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2009 07:01 KaRnaGe[cF] wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 27 2009 22:25 gaggar wrote:
lomo < skyhigh
jaedong < effort
hiya > movie
perfectman < iris
backho > snow
killer < kwanro


effort's loss in gom won't effect him much. iris practiced specifically for effort, while effort concentrated on the proleague.


GOM SPOILER

Thanks for spoling it i haven't watched the GOM games yet ;(

They're pretty old. They obviously were not a priority to you.

The vods just got released today, that's not very old.
It's easier not to.
FranzF1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
July 27 2009 22:48 GMT
#109
Im not going to predict anything... the playoffs its just a diferent thing.. some players start to play like stars (miracle) and somes others chokes (leta).

Just hoping for some sicks games from both sides.. and of course great ZvsZ betwen Jd and Effort
Member #99999^99 of the fanclub of Grape, Reality and TurN
Oedi
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada265 Posts
July 27 2009 23:15 GMT
#110
On July 28 2009 07:27 youinspireme wrote:
why does everyone think Jaedong will take his match ez? EffOrt has beat him plenty is on a hot streak -.- give him some credit.


Yea... Effort was in his hot streak when he was in the OSL but what happened? o yea, eliminated. Even when JD was "slumping" and exhausted. Jaedong no matter what player and especially zerg he faces is the favourite. I know effort has the 2nd best zvz but so did luxury at one point but he still got trounced by JD. This time I think that JD will win because he's angry. You know he's not happy losing to Effort 0-2 in GOM and he wants to even out the record. Jaedong recognizes him as his rival and when that happens, well he wins in clutch situations like say vs Flash or vs Bisu. This is Jaedong's time for revenge and Jaedong is going to prove who is the real overmind and who is the cerebrate.
KaRnaGe[cF]
Profile Joined September 2007
United States355 Posts
July 27 2009 23:16 GMT
#111
My predictions

(T)Lomo < (T)sKyHigh

(Z)Jaedong < (Z)EffOrt

Effort is on a zvz roll and Jaedong has been playing tired lately. I think playing a championship hungry ace on a ridiculous hot streak will make it even harder for JD. (as much as i like JD)

(T)HiyA ? (P)Movie

I don't know which Movie will show up, does anyone? His win in the last game was over Juni who was stressed to the max and played horrible.

(P)PerfectMan < (T)Iris

Iris has been playing very good SC recently and perfectman well... hasn't done anything

(P)BackHo > (P)Snow

BackHo should win this one easily, CJ just has a weak slot for protoss here. I suppose Snow won't do any worse than NBS would.

(Z)Killer < (Z)Kwanro

My faith has been shaken in Kwarno's playoff play but he should win this one and i think he will.

Go CJ!
"We must remember that one man is much the same as another, and that he is best who is trained in the severest school." - Athenian General Thucydides Quantum Gaming
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 27 2009 23:22 GMT
#112
JD having to worry about movie? He'd absolutely destroy movie, CJ wouldn't send him. It's either Effort or some kind of Iris or Skyhigh snipe because ZvT is JD's weakest.
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So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-27 23:47:39
July 27 2009 23:39 GMT
#113
Eh, I'll toss in my predictions just for the hell of it.

(T)sKyHigh > (T)Lomo

Going off TLPD, not only is TvT Skyhigh's best matchup (65.38% win rate), it's Lomo's worst (43.59%) - then factor in that Destination is Skyhigh's stomping ground. He's 20-6 on the map (6-2 TvT); Lomo is 5-8 (3-4 TvT). We all know Skyhigh is a monster in the playoffs, and isn't doing okay recently (after a small slump), going 6-4. Lomo is 4-6 for the last 10. I'd say that Skyhigh is the clear favorite for this set.

(Z)Jaedong > (Z)EffOrt

This is the toughest to call, and will probably be the game of the night. + Show Spoiler [Gom spoiler] +
Now that Effort is out of Gom, he'll have that much less to practice for - even though he put proleague ahead anyway, I'm sure it's a load off his shoulders. And I'll put this in the spoiler just in case, but I'm sure everyone knows by now that Effort did beat Jaedong 2-0.
. They both have MSL matches a few days before, so it will be interesting to see how practice is split there. Effort's ZvZ is 3-0 on Neo Medusa, and Jaedong's is 3-1, with the loss coming from Effort. Either way, both of these players are truly titans, and it's very hard to determine a winner. I believe it could honestly go either way. I'm leaning more towards Jaedong taking it because he hasn't had to carry his team through the playoffs thus far, and has hopefully had some time to rest because of it, where Effort won 3 games last week for his team, and is probably pretty tired.

(P)Movie > (T)HiyA

I'm honestly not going to bother with trying to analyze who will win here. It is Hiya's best match up, he is 2-0 TvP on this map (but they weren't against the highest caliber of opponent ), and Movie is wildly inconsistent. But that's part of what draws me to him. His last match on this map up, he made Leta cry - then lost to Justin the next day. But he still sniped Leta, and I believe he can work the magic again on Hiya.

(T)Iris > (P)PerfectMan

Iris is hot, Perfectman is a B-teamer. I think it's more likely that he is in the lineup because of Oz's lack of depth, than they've been training him to snipe.

(P)BackHo > (P)Snow

Backho's another player who can be wildly inconsistent, and the little we have seen from Snow hasn't been too impressive (personally just going by record with him - I don't recall his games, though one was against Bisu, so he could have put up a fight). With that said, I think a Snow snipe of Backho is much more likely than a Perfectman snipe of Iris.

(Z)Kwanro > (Z)Killer

Statistically ZvZ is Kwanro's best, and once again, Killer is a B-teamer. Kwanro can lose games horribly, but he can also win them. He's rather inconsistent, but I think he has this.


CJ wins the day 4-2.
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
July 27 2009 23:45 GMT
#114
JD and BackHo are gonna be the only winners by OZ, thats my prediction i hope im wrong and they win but i think thats gonna be right.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
July 28 2009 00:02 GMT
#115
On July 28 2009 08:45 GreEny K wrote:
JD and BackHo are gonna be the only winners by OZ, thats my prediction i hope im wrong and they win but i think thats gonna be right.


Jaedong is a fucking beast. If someone other than Backho steps up and wins a game, Jaedong'll take CJ down in the Ace match. As long as it goes to Ace, I think OZ has a great chance of winning.
God Bless
Sigrun
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1655 Posts
July 28 2009 00:11 GMT
#116
Jaedong will have to practice for his series vs Canata a day before the playoffs, while Effort will be practicing ZvZ nonstop to prepare for his match versus Calm. It might be a repeat of GOM all over again.
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Toads
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1795 Posts
July 28 2009 00:15 GMT
#117
Lomo < Skyhigh

Jaedong < EffOrt

Hiya < Movie

perfectman < Iris

Oz 0-4 Cj
EffOrt will take it, he already do it 2 time
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
July 28 2009 00:17 GMT
#118
On July 28 2009 09:11 Sigrun wrote:
Jaedong will have to practice for his series vs Canata a day before the playoffs, while Effort will be practicing ZvZ nonstop to prepare for his match versus Calm. It might be a repeat of GOM all over again.


But the thing is, with ZvZ, there's not much flexibility in builds. I do believe mechanics at the end of the day play a huge role in the game, which is why I do believe Jaedong still has the upper edge.
God Bless
RippingFlesh
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada22 Posts
July 28 2009 00:22 GMT
#119
Any chance of having Tasteless casting the semi-final?
"The things you own, end up owning you." — Tyler Durden
Murdoink
Profile Joined March 2009
Chile1219 Posts
July 28 2009 00:26 GMT
#120
I think the Hiya vs Movie match is key (whatever the result of JD vs Effort is), if Movie plays like he did against Fantasy on MSL or against Leta he should take it, Hiya has been sucking since he lost to Stats on GOM.
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